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Macca

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  • Yesterday at 10:43 PM
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Nick said:
Should be a jail offence. Even more so when it's people who are Scottish. Geordie etc.
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They can git tae fuck
 

clint van damme

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  • Yesterday at 10:43 PM
  • #12,742
Macca said:
I can't rationalise him being the sole reason for us not lasting the pace. Thats the point I'm making. I couldn't care less whether he is here next season. Not emotionally bought into him at all like MR but there is clearly more factors than just him to how this season has gone
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He certainly could have had more help in January.
But we hit a slump in away form last season and it wasn't addressed, and now it's happening again. It didn't really make a difference last year, but it is this time around.
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Yesterday at 10:43 PM
  • #12,743
mark82 said:
I don't see Hull or Millwall catching them, and I'm resigned to the fact that we're done to be honest. Easier that way.
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Yeah. That’s where I am.
 

Evo1883

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  • Yesterday at 10:43 PM
  • #12,744
Macca said:
I can't rationalise him being the sole reason for us not lasting the pace. Thats the point I'm making. I couldn't care less whether he is here next season. Not emotionally bought into him at all like MR but there is clearly more factors than just him to how this season has gone
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Well you have to credit him with the large portion of the blame for failing to be proactive , refusing to try even sit in and see games out or tighten up after taking the lead away , and not rotating certain players when he had the chance


Hes just gone full steam ahead and hoped it would work
 
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Macca

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  • Yesterday at 10:45 PM
  • #12,745
clint van damme said:
He certainly could have had more help in January.
But we hit a slump in away form last season and it wasn't addressed, and now it's happening again. It didn't really make a difference last year, but it is this time around.
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My main criticism of him is that he had a plan A which worked like a dream in the Autumn. Then teams worked us out, stopped being intimidated and I haven't seen a plan B
 
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Evo1883

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  • Yesterday at 10:45 PM
  • #12,746
clint van damme said:
Like I say, revisit some of those match threads.

And as I said on another thread today, I certainly won't be calling for Lampard to go, far from it.
But that doesn't mean he hasn't overseen momentous fuck up if we don't go up.
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Youre better than me , id struggle to look past a fuck up so big
 

Nick

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  • Yesterday at 10:45 PM
  • #12,747
Evo1883 said:
Well you have to credit him with the large portion of the blame for failing to be proactive , refusing to try even sit in and see games out or tighten up after taking the lead away , and not rotating certain players when he had the chance


Hes just gone full steam ahead and hoped it would work
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Some has been kamikaze.

Boro tonight made defensive changes. Meanwhile we take the lead and go mental.
 
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Nick

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  • Yesterday at 10:46 PM
  • #12,748
Evo1883 said:
Youre better than me , id struggle to look past a fuck up so big
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If we fuck it up it's going to be a very long. Dark pre season.

Obviously will renew but it will be very meh.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Yesterday at 10:46 PM
  • #12,749
Nick said:
Some has been kamikaze.

Boro tonight made defensive changes. Meanwhile we take the lead and go mental.
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There was a point this season where he was making some good changes but he seems to have totally lost the plot over the last 2 months
 

shepardo01

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  • Yesterday at 10:47 PM
  • #12,750
clint van damme said:
Is it fuck!
The pressure is very much on after blowing the lead we had.
And theyd better respond accordingly, the shower of cunts!!
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Absolutely the pressure is on. Totally agree!
We've blown a ridiculous lead and are showing bottom.third metrics over a period of 15 (!) games!!
We haven't shown that we can step it up....
We're tried but we haven't been able to.....

We are now 2nd and have others breathing down our necks.....

The pressure is on big time.... And we've shown we can't get ourselves back up for a fight.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Yesterday at 10:48 PM
  • #12,751
Evo1883 said:
Youre better than me , id struggle to look past a fuck up so big
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My reasoning is we should at least end up in the play offs this season.
That would be 2 seasons on the trot. Realistically, if we don't get autos this year then we're looking at challenging for the play offs going forward
I'd be reluctant to bin a manager who's achieved that twice.

Just my take, I know you and plenty other won't agree and I understand why.
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Yesterday at 10:49 PM
  • #12,752
Matt smith said:
Coventry 1 Middlesbrough 4
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You think we’ll get 1! Woo hoo!
 
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Macca

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  • Yesterday at 10:49 PM
  • #12,753
Evo1883 said:
Well you have to credit him with the large portion of the blame for failing to be proactive , refusing to try even sit in and see games out or tighten up after taking the lead away , and not rotating certain players when he had the chance


Hes just gone full steam ahead and hoped it would work
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Oh I absolutely do but I also think the seeds were sown with a very poor summer window. The first few months absolutely blew me away considering my pre season expectations. And believe me if there was someone that DK thought could turn this around and he replaced him given the once in 25 years opportunity I would be all for it. Quite frankly whatever it takes
 

Nick

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  • Yesterday at 10:50 PM
  • #12,754
clint van damme said:
My reasoning is we should at least end up in the play offs this season.
That would be 2 seasons on the trot. Realistically, if we don't get autos this year then we're looking at challenging for the play offs going forward
I'd be reluctant to bin a manager who's achieved that twice.

Just my take, I know you and plenty other won't agree and I understand why.
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I think it depends on the play offs too. If we go into them without even putting up a whimper then it's shocking.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Yesterday at 10:50 PM
  • #12,755
shepardo01 said:
The pressure is on big time.... And we've shown we can't get ourselves back up for a fight.
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When did that happen ? You're looking into, and predicting, the future at the same time
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Yesterday at 10:51 PM
  • #12,756
Macca said:
Look I'm largely apathetic about Lampard, not sure he is the answer. Point is though if MR was still here we'd hear far more "deserves credit for getting us in this position" "squad was never strong enough to maintain this over 46 games" "other stronger teams with more resources were always going to catch up". All reasonable points but too many people have had an agenda against FL from the start and won't entertain them
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Honestly I think we get to 80 points and miss out on the auto but if you had told us we would get 80 points before the season kicked off I would have been pretty pleased.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Yesterday at 10:51 PM
  • #12,757
quinn1971 said:
Least we don’t have to sing that song anymore, they looked decent for 60mins but we’ll get plenty of chances, shame we wont have EMC and Asante back but it’ll be some statement beating them, bring it on
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EMC will be back for Boro
 

shepardo01

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  • Yesterday at 10:53 PM
  • #12,758
Sky Blue Harry H said:
When did that happen ? You're looking into, and predicting, the future at the same time
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Happened since around the beginning of December.... Consistent poor results with the odd blip of a couple of wins here and there.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Yesterday at 10:53 PM
  • #12,759
even If top 2 goes we’ve still got a great chance, as frustrating as it is we’ve got 2 goes at going up, and this form can still turn around as quick as it started, just stick with them
 
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quinn1971

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  • Yesterday at 10:54 PM
  • #12,760
robbiethemole said:
EMC will be back for Boro
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Yeah, meant both back,
 
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Nick

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  • Yesterday at 10:54 PM
  • #12,761
quinn1971 said:
even If top 2 goes we’ve still got a great chance, as frustrating as it is we’ve got 2 goes at going up, and this form can still turn around as quick as it started, just stick with them
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What's the great chance if we don't finish top 2? We would need to win over 2 legs and then at Wembley.
 

shepardo01

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  • Yesterday at 10:54 PM
  • #12,762
quinn1971 said:
even If top 2 goes we’ve still got a great chance, as frustrating as it is we’ve got 2 goes at going up, and this form can still turn around as quick as it started, just stick with them
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We've been destinctly average to poor for more games now that we were good at the start of the season.
 
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Rodders1

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  • Yesterday at 10:54 PM
  • #12,763
clint van damme said:
My reasoning is we should at least end up in the play offs this season.
That would be 2 seasons on the trot. Realistically, if we don't get autos this year then we're looking at challenging for the play offs going forward
I'd be reluctant to bin a manager who's achieved that twice.

Just my take, I know you and plenty other won't agree and I understand why.
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Completely agree. Franks early season success has brought expectation and entitlement to the fan base.

If he gets us into the playoffs perpetually then he’s doing his job well.

Of course it’s the hope that kills you but we all knew deep down the early season was simply not sustainable.
 

Evo1883

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  • Yesterday at 10:56 PM
  • #12,764
Rodders1 said:
Completely agree. Franks early season success has brought expectation and entitlement to the fan base.

If he gets us into the playoffs perpetually then he’s doing his job well.

Of course it’s the hope that kills you but we all knew deep down the early season was simply not sustainable.
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No but for us to finish in the playoffs the form will have been not good enough for over half a season ?

He will at that point be doing a bad job
 
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Macca

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  • Yesterday at 10:56 PM
  • #12,765
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Honestly I think we get to 80 points and miss out on the auto but if you had told us we would get 80 points before the season kicked off I would have been pretty pleased.
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Yeh its a weird one. We could end up on paper with our best championship season and if we collected those points consistently over the season it would meet the target of continuous improvement. But because of how things have gone and the opportunity we had it would be gutting.

I still say though. Do not write off play off success. Absolute lottery
 

Rodders1

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  • Yesterday at 10:57 PM
  • #12,766
Evo1883 said:
No but for us to finish in the playoffs the form will have been not good enough for over half a season ?

He will at that point be doing a bad job
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Yeah that also happened at the end of last season. Then an amazing start to this season. It’s a cycle - we need to support him and he may find the answer.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Yesterday at 10:57 PM
  • #12,767
fernandopartridge said:
I think this post was original once
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I wouldn't call someone else out on originality when all you ever post is slating posters on here who have done nothing to contribute to the collapse.

It's obvious you're scared and lashing out but you've focussed it in the wrong direction.
 

Evo1883

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  • Yesterday at 10:58 PM
  • #12,768
Happy with the playoffs you say
 
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Macca

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  • Yesterday at 10:59 PM
  • #12,769
Evo1883 said:
No but for us to finish in the playoffs the form will have been not good enough for over half a season ?

He will at that point be doing a bad job
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Yep we could get in the play offs with a less than 1 point a game average over the second half of the season. Relegation form. Assuming we make it though I will still have hope
 

Evo1883

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  • Yesterday at 11:00 PM
  • #12,770
Ive got to go to bed , im so annoyed
 
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Nick

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  • Yesterday at 11:00 PM
  • #12,771
Evo1883 said:
Happy with the playoffs you say
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Not in a relegation fight though.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Yesterday at 11:01 PM
  • #12,772
shepardo01 said:
We've been destinctly average to poor for more games now that we were good at the start of the season.
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It won’t last, convinced we’ll turn it around, add Asante, Onyeka and EMC to that team on Saturday and we win that, imagine what a win will do next week, 8 point gap to 3rd
 
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Evo1883

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  • Yesterday at 11:01 PM
  • #12,773
Nick said:
Not in a relegation fight though.
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Sure we were 16 clear of 3rd at one point
 

Shannerz

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  • Yesterday at 11:01 PM
  • #12,774
Nick said:
Should be a jail offence. Even more so when it's people who are Scottish. Geordie etc.
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You know Scots is a language, right?
 

Gint11

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  • Yesterday at 11:06 PM
  • #12,775
quinn1971 said:
It won’t last, convinced we’ll turn it around, add Asante, Onyeka and EMC to that team on Saturday and we win that, imagine what a win will do next week, 8 point gap to 3rd
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Yeah, to be fair Ipswich and Hull are in the cup so if we beat Boro, we’re back top and widen the gap.
 
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