no_loyalty
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2-0 Huddersfield
So how do you propose to raise the money then.Extending Allen Hyam and Godden is a waste of cash, same as Kelly, will be more deadwood we can’t shift that’ll prevent us from moving forwards.
Hamer and O’Hare fair enough, but sell one for £5m and we will still be too skint for a replacement plus the few more we need.
Whether because of the state of the game generally or because of our inability to get proper commercial income we can’t fund a competitive squad with this model. It’s not about never selling players, it’s about being able to pay 20 players of the right quality.
Harshwe have no model - it’s a fallacy and we have to sell fast or we can’t sign anyone
Harsh is polite. He doesn’t acknowledge the other 90% of teams who have the same model. Sometimes types before engagingHarsh
Harsh is polite. He doesn’t acknowledge the other 90% of teams who have the same model. Sometimes types before engaging
we have no model - it’s a fallacy and we have to sell fast or we can’t sign anyone
The excellent price of football podcast made by the excellent Kieran McGuire who excellently got very basic things wrong when looking at our accounts.Isn’t that almost every club in football-barring superrich?
So yes we have to sell to buy as we don’t have any money.
Even clubs like Colchester are posting 35 million pound losses.
If you listen to the excellent Price of Football podcast every single club is losing millions bar only a handful.
Just isn’t sustainable to keep spending.
So the only model is to sell players for revenue.
Whether we have a model or not we very clearly are using data metrics for recruitment (and have been for a while) which is a the cleverest way of getting money from the market.
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The excellent price of football podcast made by the excellent Kieran McGuire who excellently got very basic things wrong when looking at our accounts.
Isn’t that almost every club in football-barring superrich?
So yes we have to sell to buy as we don’t have any money.
Even clubs like Colchester are posting 35 million pound losses.
If you listen to the excellent Price of Football podcast every single club is losing millions bar only a handful.
Just isn’t sustainable to keep spending.
So the only model is to sell players for revenue.
Whether we have a model or not we very clearly are using data metrics for recruitment (and have been for a while) which is a the cleverest way of getting money from the market.
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SometimesHarsh is polite. He doesn’t acknowledge the other 90% of teams who have the same model. Sometimes types before engaging
Sometimes
Isn’t that almost every club in football-barring superrich?
So yes we have to sell to buy as we don’t have any money.
Even clubs like Colchester are posting 35 million pound losses.
If you listen to the excellent Price of Football podcast every single club is losing millions bar only a handful.
Just isn’t sustainable to keep spending.
So the only model is to sell players for revenue.
Whether we have a model or not we very clearly are using data metrics for recruitment (and have been for a while) which is a the cleverest way of getting money from the market.
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Interesting that the vast majority of clubs are losing money every year.
If you follow that through...
People saying the only way to balance the books is to sell players....
but, the clubs you are selling the players to are 90% plus those that are losing money every year.
So, unless you can increase revenue elsewhere, then you need to cut costs (smaller squads, or reduced wages)?
The 'selling' players 'model' will not work for the majority of clubs, particularly in the EFL, unless you are in a one off position, that has a Brennon johnson. You cannot rely on that happening (as Bristol City have found out to their cost).
You don’t actually have to balance the books though to even legitimately meet the EFL rules
I get that, but - as you have referred to before - it's not a sustainable way of operating. Only a few owners (Coates family at Stoke for example) who have the ability to absorb such losses on a continuous basis.
Well you say that but not many clubs are actually going out of business anytime soon
There are some issues around FFP for some sure but it’s all degrees at this level
We are ourselves making losses and they will get worse in the league - lack of fixed assets, owner funding and capacity to attract investors are disadvantaging the club
Fans are supporting the club in numbers but other clubs with a far smaller fan base and revenue stream seem to be more competitive where it matters
i dont know the details but listening to the radio last night, suggestions that Everton are deep in trouble if they go down
Think that Burnley loss at Norwich was a key result - think Everton will sneak out of it now. Would like them to come down though.
They probably have more than one player who earns more than the whole of our squad combined.
They financially are in a mess and even suggestion EPL clubs may challenge if they aren’t punished for FFP dodges. I think they have some Russian ownership and the asset freezing of the commercial aspect deepens the crises
Think it was "sponsorship" from Usmanov.
They've also got no relegation clauses in the players contracts so they're wage bill won't decrease unless they off load players, which given the way they've performed this season won't be easy.
Everton are screwed if they go down I reckon. Randomly, I have quite a few mates who are Everton fans down here and they're concerned about the new stadiums costs increasing. Haven't they spent something like £250m in the last 5 or so years on players? And their contribution to the new stadium is said to be something like £220m as well.
Nearly £0.5bn and they could be in the Championship.
Granted, a 'big' club with a lot of history but it doesn't look too great for them long term unless this new stadium helps to bring in a hell of a lot more money than they currently do.
I very much doubt they'll be screwed. Bournemouth spent around £200m on players over the same time period prior to their relegation and they've got nowhere near the commercial pull that Everton does.
However they are not building a stadium that is costing a fortune, and the person who was funding it is under the Russian embargo umbrella, I believe. So, presumably, there will be fallout from that.
However they are not building a stadium that is costing a fortune, and the person who was funding it is under the Russian embargo umbrella, I believe. So, presumably, there will be fallout from that.
Bournemouth also recouped a lot of money through player sales (Ake 40m+, Ramsdale 18M+, Wilson 20M, Danjuma 20M+, Mousset 10M, Mings 20M+ etc). Their owner has provided lots of funds, but is not a billionaire, nor an oligarch, and is a British citizen and is under no restrictions.
No, I don't honestly think that. Yes, of course Everton will be able to raise lots. I was answering Sky Blue Harrys point about BournemouthDo you honestly think Everton won't be able to raise similar amounts through players sales though?
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