Sky Blue Kid
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On one hand, an open and transparent, above board, and decent business(ACL)
On the other hand, A lying, cheating, blackmailing, underhand, thieving bunch of bastards,(SISU)........Now!...Let me see!:facepalm:
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On one hand, an open and transparent, above board, and decent business(ACL)
On the other hand, A lying, cheating, blackmailing, underhand, thieving bunch of bastards,(SISU)........Now!...Let me see!:facepalm:
Nonleagueherewecome
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Utter bollocks from SISU as usual. I don't think I can take much more of this, football is a leisure activity, not something to be constantly disguisted and furious about. Fuck you and all you stand for, SISU, you're killing this sport for me.
DazzleTommyDazzle
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Perhaps an agreement would have been reached earlier if SISU hadn't (in my opinion based on what has been reported) negotiated in the style of sulky teenagers, metaphorically slamming their bedroom door every time they didn't get their way.
lordsummerisle
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Ah, a statement from ACL: "an open and transparent, above board, and decent business".
A statement from the club: "A lying, cheating, blackmailing, underhand, thieving bunch of bastards".
sky blue john
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I hardly think three home games until the end of the season would make much difference in terms of revenue. Definately not 1.3 million in bottom line profit !!!!
lordsummerisle
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We're not talking just three home games though are we potentially?
It goes back to those who say that ACL is viable without the club and those who think it isn't.
sky blue john
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Well at what point has any statement from Sisu led you to believe they are prepared to sign any agreement whatsoever ?
Sky Blue Kid
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In which way are ACL at fault here???.....SISU are the ones who haven't paid a legal requirement(Rent).....SISU have been offered F+B, but have turned the offer down!
SISU have deliberately forced the issue. Yet some numpty's(If the cap fits) say everything is ACL's fault!:facepalm:
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The three things I wanted to know are missing from this scribble by Fisher.
1) Confirmation on whether the golden share is held by CCFC Ltd or CCFC Holdings Ltd (though of course it might not make a difference in the outcome).
2) The intended alternative to playing at the Ricoh.
3) SISU's intended commitment to the club from this point.
All else is frippery.
1) Confirmation on whether the golden share is held by CCFC Ltd or CCFC Holdings Ltd (though of course it might not make a difference in the outcome).
2) The intended alternative to playing at the Ricoh.
3) SISU's intended commitment to the club from this point.
All else is frippery.
Brighton Sky Blue
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If what he's written is correct they still haven't agreed with the FL where to play the remaining fixtures-surely he wouldn't be so stupid?
Pete in Portugal
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Fisher's statement on behalf of CCFC (Holdings) Ltd does not tell us anything much. For example:
Will there be a points deduction or not? If so, what are the details?
Where will we be playing our 'home' games, this season? And next?
Will existing home match tickets and season tickets be honoured?
Are SISU planning to finance the club next season? And if so, when will the accounts be filed and the transfer embargo lifted?
It is deeply worrying that Fisher is unable to provide this information. It is completely unacceptable that, as Chief Executive, he's not telling us because he simply doesn't know the answers himself!!! :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
Will there be a points deduction or not? If so, what are the details?
Where will we be playing our 'home' games, this season? And next?
Will existing home match tickets and season tickets be honoured?
Are SISU planning to finance the club next season? And if so, when will the accounts be filed and the transfer embargo lifted?
It is deeply worrying that Fisher is unable to provide this information. It is completely unacceptable that, as Chief Executive, he's not telling us because he simply doesn't know the answers himself!!! :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
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Sky Blue Kid
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@ dubed...
1)..The last known statement at Companies House says...CCFC Ltd held the "Golden share" in June 2012(This being the "Company" that the FL know of.) To me this moving of the shares to CCFC holdings. after June 2012. says to me, and "Possibly" to the FSA..."Phoenix-ing"...what do you think OSB?
2)..The FL will not allow this, but if it's been discussed earlier between SISU and the FL...The FL are setting themselves up for a right "Arse kicking"
3)..The only thing that SISU are comitted to is themselves!
1)..The last known statement at Companies House says...CCFC Ltd held the "Golden share" in June 2012(This being the "Company" that the FL know of.) To me this moving of the shares to CCFC holdings. after June 2012. says to me, and "Possibly" to the FSA..."Phoenix-ing"...what do you think OSB?
2)..The FL will not allow this, but if it's been discussed earlier between SISU and the FL...The FL are setting themselves up for a right "Arse kicking"
3)..The only thing that SISU are comitted to is themselves!
Brighton Sky Blue
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What stuns me is that the club hasn't actually confirmed with the League where it was planning on moving to for the rest of the season. This is an absolutely astonishing lack of foresight and will land us in trouble not only with our own fans but the clubs still to play us.
Pete in Portugal
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stupot :You're right is saying that Fishers statement would have to be cleared by their lawyers, but are you saying that you think Fisher does know the answers to my questions, but just can't tell us because of the Court case?
Wheres all the sisu lovers:facepalm: I think sisu are running out of ideas and just trying to paper over the cracks. The sooner they feckoff the better im sick of getting a stress headache over my football club. SISU :jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit:
Grendel
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Define a sisu lover? Bit odd if someone had a crush on a hedge fund!
Theres plenty of them on here allways bending over backwards to defend them. All sisu do is feed us lies and im sick of it but i suppose everyone is entitled to there own opinion.
I quote from the CCFC statement:
But following Thursday's decision to place Coventry City Football Club Limited into administration, ACL told the appointed administrators they would require the full rent and licence fee on the stadium to be paid.
This is simply not true.
Neither ACL nor its lawyers have been approached by either the Club, its lawyers, Sisu or the Administrator, nor has ACL or its lawyers approached the Club, its lawyers, Sisu or the Administrator to say that “they would require the full rent and licence fee on the stadium to be paid”.
As the ACL statement said earlier we want the Sky Blues to continue playing at the Ricoh and nothing has changed. As the Club know full well in Administration there is anyway 14 days “grace” during which no rent or licence fee has to be paid by the company in administration.
But following Thursday's decision to place Coventry City Football Club Limited into administration, ACL told the appointed administrators they would require the full rent and licence fee on the stadium to be paid.
This is simply not true.
Neither ACL nor its lawyers have been approached by either the Club, its lawyers, Sisu or the Administrator, nor has ACL or its lawyers approached the Club, its lawyers, Sisu or the Administrator to say that “they would require the full rent and licence fee on the stadium to be paid”.
As the ACL statement said earlier we want the Sky Blues to continue playing at the Ricoh and nothing has changed. As the Club know full well in Administration there is anyway 14 days “grace” during which no rent or licence fee has to be paid by the company in administration.
Well this just proves that sisu are talking out of there arse again :jerkit::jerkit:
DazzleTommyDazzle
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Thanks PWKH.
It's difficult to know if the appropriate response is to laugh or to cry.
Q. How do you know when a SISU spokesperson is lying?
A. His lips are moving.
The old ones are the best.......
It's difficult to know if the appropriate response is to laugh or to cry.
Q. How do you know when a SISU spokesperson is lying?
A. His lips are moving.
The old ones are the best.......
torchomatic
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So, let's get this right. ACL - who are nothing to do with the Club we support - make a statement and it's "way to go", "well done ACL", etc etc
The Club makes a statement - that's the Club WE support - and it's bullshit, lies, spin, etc?
The Club makes a statement - that's the Club WE support - and it's bullshit, lies, spin, etc?
Brighton Sky Blue
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Because it's factually inaccurate. I've even put the quote below the reply this time to pacify you.
So, let's get this right. ACL - who are nothing to do with the Club we support - make a statement and it's "way to go", "well done ACL", etc etc
The Club makes a statement - that's the Club WE support - and it's bullshit, lies, spin, etc?
So, let's get this right. ACL - who are nothing to do with the Club we support - make a statement and it's "way to go", "well done ACL", etc etc
The Club makes a statement - that's the Club WE support - and it's bullshit, lies, spin, etc?
The difference is, I think, quite clear. You may not agree with the actions spelt out in the ACL statement, you may disagree with the policy being followed by ACL, you may believe that ACL should be behaving in a different way but you cannot point to a deliberate falsehood. The CCFC statement states as a fact something that is intended to justify their actions, something that is utterly untrue. That is the difference.
DazzleTommyDazzle
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So, let's get this right. ACL - who are nothing to do with the Club we support - make a statement and it's "way to go", "well done ACL", etc etc
The Club makes a statement - that's the Club WE support - and it's bullshit, lies, spin, etc?
To ease your confusion....
I judge people on their actions.
One party has been good enough to come on this site and inform us what is happening. So far I have had no reason to doubt what he says.
The other party, well the less said the better....
Hope that helps.
So, let's get this right. ACL - who are nothing to do with the Club we support - make a statement and it's "way to go", "well done ACL", etc etc
The Club makes a statement - that's the Club WE support - and it's bullshit, lies, spin, etc?
Thats because acl release a proper statment that looks like the truth to me.And sisu well they look like make it up as you go along type bullshit. And they never tell the truth. lie lies and more lies thats all sisu ever give us. Allways have allways will
Well bloody said
Grendel
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So if Tim Fisher came on here and gave his version everyone would "like" everything he says as well?
So, let's get this right. ACL - who are nothing to do with the Club we support - make a statement and it's "way to go", "well done ACL", etc etc
The Club makes a statement - that's the Club WE support - and it's bullshit, lies, spin, etc?
Torch.......you are confusing the club with who we all relate and SISU, two completely different entities. One plays football the other repeatedly tells lies and tries to manipulate situations to THEIR financial gain !
But isn't that exactly what many posters on here want SISU to do - walk away with nothing after having put in £45M
Well only the people that belive him and thought his post spoke sense and knew who he was would "like" his posts. But i think most would give him a load of abuse and call him a bullshiter
Grendel
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Which kind of proves my point really.
Brighton Sky Blue
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It may be what other posters want but I don't expect it to happen in the slightest; what I would expect though is for SISU to set a level on what they would be prepared to write off and make that the requirement for any prospective new owner to meet.
Black6Osprey
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Originally Posted by DazzleTommyDazzle:
To ease your confusion....
I judge people on their actions.
One party has been good enough to come on this site and inform us what is happening. So far I have had no reason to doubt what he says.
The other party, well the less said the better....
Do you really expect a football club to start posting on a fans forum?
Some people think their club statement sounds unprofessional so imagine what people would think if they starting posting on here.
To ease your confusion....
I judge people on their actions.
One party has been good enough to come on this site and inform us what is happening. So far I have had no reason to doubt what he says.
The other party, well the less said the better....
Do you really expect a football club to start posting on a fans forum?
Some people think their club statement sounds unprofessional so imagine what people would think if they starting posting on here.
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oakey
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Absolutely. Yes. They are multiple millionaire backers who are gambling in high risk stakes. That's what Hedge funds are. They take big risks and sometimes win mega bucks and sometimes lose. I was once in a casino in West Bromwich and folks were talking about a chap who had lost tens of thousands a few days before. Then someone pointed out he was a millionaire many times over. Small change for him and no sympathy.
Frankly SISU gambled money on a failing business ... Tried to sell or mortgage all its assets, briefly tried to buy and sell players at profit, then abandoned that and tried to bully their way to getting revenue streams. They have utterly failed and no one should feel sorry for any money they have lost.
