Nick
Administrator
Yeah, which is why a mediator is being "called in" before legal action?
At the risk of repeating myself: that’s why you have clear clauses in the tenancy agreement. It’s hardly as issue that’s appeared out of nowhere. There have always been issues with it, the CWG was known about when we signed terms. It should be as simple as something saying “If Wasps don’t ensure pitch is to a reasonable standard, X happens”.
But this is SISU's best chance for years of coming out of this with a long term solution.
We just need a little more patience and Wasps will hand everything to SISU on a bright shiny silver plate.
Yeah, which is why a mediator is being "called in" before legal action?
Good job Seppala backs that too, then...No, that’s one reason why I supported a new ground.
Good job Seppala backs that too, then...
Back to the future!!!It must be 2012 again.
I mean ultimately we've put ourselves in the position of being beholden to others by fucking about rather than doing, haven't we. Ultimately this incident is Wasps' responsibility, but why are we even in the position of caring whether it's Wasps' responsibility or not. We should be looking on from afar, and laughing.Oh wait, I forgot. This is totally happening and it’s just nasty CCC haven’t yet approved a road that is vital.
Like a kid with no homework.
As I say I think wasps understand they need to sort it and will.Aren't we allready at last resort?
Tbh, I think the pitch will be patched up and made playable (if not perfect) that will buy all sides some time, but there's still a legal matter regarding compensation.
I'm sure Wasps received money from the CWG, some of that should now go to CCFC. if there's no money available, then we should seek to push them into administration as far as I'm concerned.
Don’t know why people are saying they can’tIf I am included in that I absolutely do not think CCFC should have to pay for this.
It is a disgrace that Wasps are here, it is a disgrace that the pitch is not playable, the Council are a disgrace for their contribution.
I believe Wasps should have to pay but they can’t and won’t.
So what now? Play away and suffer the consequences or pay £500k to fix it. That’s not fair to the club but that is the case unfortunately and I pray that it works out for our sakes.
What is done and how quickWhat is there to mediate?
If they can, why would they jeapordise their own future by not resolving it?Don’t know why people are saying they can’t
I don’t think it’s can’t and it’s been a week and a half almostWell I assumed from here they’re skint and on the ropes? But whether it’s can’t or won’t it’s still not being resolved.
Yes and it wouldn't be our pitch either, would it?
I have said, they would have to play on a pitch that is deemed safe.
You are chatting shit because of your obsession with Boddy and that Maton has been round for tea, it's a bit embarrassing really.
Is it wasps or council coin?If I am included in that I absolutely do not think CCFC should have to pay for this.
It is a disgrace that Wasps are here, it is a disgrace that the pitch is not playable, the Council are a disgrace for their contribution.
I believe Wasps should have to pay but they can’t and won’t.
So what now? Play away and suffer the consequences or pay £500k to fix it. That’s not fair to the club but that is the case unfortunately and I pray that it works out for our sakes.
It depends what facts we followIf they can, why would they jeapordise their own future by not resolving it?
What is there to mediate?
What has?It’s been since June surely?
Then they are unsuitable landlords and we need to find an alternative while they go bust instead of propping them up.And if Wasps say no?
Let's look at it from reverse.It depends what facts we follow
Wasps should provide pitch
They havent
Will they?
How long have they known ccfc had an issue?
As I say I don’t think it’s can’t
Your sole purpose to sign up here is to say CCFC should hold up the value of Wasps' asset.I don’t know what you mean sorry do you mean to pay for the pitch or paying me to post lol
A legal obligation for a safe pitch?
Don’t think anyone has said CCFC should pay/are responsible for it. Not at all. At the moment it just feels like the least unreasonable option out of a bunch of fucking shit options. But if they’re not even playing along with that idea then both clubs are in big trouble anyway.
And you can tell now that loads of us are growing desperate and have had enough of being a problem club. I’m certainly not up for going all in and moving away again in the hope they’ll hurry up and die.
At least I got the right post this time.
Then they are unsuitable landlords and we need to find an alternative while they go bust instead of propping them up.
I wouldn't be at all happy with the club selling players and threatening our Championship status to pay for something we don't own.
If we have to pay for is what do we get in return?
Not as simple as find somewhere else with 13,000 season ticket holders a good chunk of whom may want their money back.
Also not as simple as paying for the pitch and all being hunky dory.Not as simple as find somewhere else with 13,000 season ticket holders a good chunk of whom may want their money back.
Not a fucking clue about Wasps' finances and probably not a fucking clue about the history of the relationship.Will they go bust? Is that likely?
Would we have to sell Someone to stump up £500k? Could we not get it back through legal action if Wasps have fucked up?
We get a pitch to play on and don’t have to play away from home and suffer all the consequences that comes with. I imagine we would lose more than £500k doing this
Hasn't it already been said we offered money towards it?Also not as simple as paying for the pitch and all being hunky dory.
If we could get it in the press now that we would pay for it and it comes straight off all our obligations to them until it's paid back then it would be a step to see what the response is.
Good challenge that.Let's look at it from reverse.
Pitch has had known games coming up;
Original plan was new pitch;
Wasps apparently informed CCFC there would be no new pitch;
They're aware that two clubs will be playing lots of games, along with CWG and RLWC.
If it's a 'can', wouldn't you minimise the risk to your cash flow by planning in advance? Also if it's a 'can', why would you risk your refinancing going down the pan by threats of legal action from CCFC / SISU?
Yes, Buddy said it on Saturday.Hasn't it already been said we offered money towards it?
Where has this £500k figure come from FFS. Only about 10% of that pitch is likely unplayable ?
More total speculation methinks.
Just another thought as well, when we signed up for the 10 year deal didn’t that state no more court cases or was that no more ‘ state aid’ court cases ?
Perhaps no more historic ones but you can’t stifle a partner and stop them making legal redress where necessaryWhere has this £500k figure come from FFS. Only about 10% of that pitch is likely unplayable ?
More total speculation methinks.
Just another thought as well, when we signed up for the 10 year deal didn’t that state no more court cases or was that no more ‘ state aid’ court cases ?
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