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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,206
Skybluebeliever said:
They and we have no money to do anything I’m afraid
We have to rely on their 2 groundsman , basic equipment and hope
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That’s not a plan
 

stupot07

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,207
Ash said:
The thing is, Wasps will need a safe playable surface as well for when their season starts, think a lot of people are overlooking this fact when they say they couldn’t give a fuck about it.

The fact there’s been an independent agronomist inspecting the pitch and deeming it unsafe will have them a lot more worried than before.
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But they have more than enough time to rectify the pitch before their first game. Without being played on the pitch would be back to perfect condition before 17th September for their first home game.

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Tommo1993

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,208
Can see why CCFC aren’t wanting to fully repair it, only for it to be cut up by shitty rugby games for a rugby club who can’t pay bills and have zero intention of treatment.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,209
It’s nice to see the master plan devised by CCC and Wasps behind our backs is finally coming to fruition. Those fuckers at the Council House have been surprisingly quiet
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,210
robbiethemole said:
It’s nice to see the master plan devised by CCC and Wasps behind our backs is finally coming to fruition. Those fuckers at the Council House have been surprisingly quiet
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I said that the other day.

Although MAton is just retweeting whatever Wasps say.
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,211
Wasps is trending on Twitter.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,212
fernandopartridge said:
No it isn't, you agree with Wasps that given they can't invest in the pitch you will invest some of the rent in it, no court needs to be involved in basic commercial negotiation

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Absolutely

Any real CEO would way up benefits and risks.

We were told the two respective occupants of the role were on good terms

The problem would have been obvious months ago. The football club could have negotiated at that point. It didn’t have to be a total new pitch but a solution that would make the pitch workable. The clubs could have worked together and negotiated a sensible solution to benefit both parties.

If the football club did a proper risk valuation analysis on the situation it’s clear that they will be the ones this will have a potentially disastrous impact on - in fact almost to the point of zero income for weeks on end.

So a worked solution would easily have been achieved where up front costs are negotiated and long term rental adjustments made.

No normal companies would act like spoilt children sending strongly worded statements on their websites

It’s pathetic
 
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LastGarrison

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,213
I know demonstrations, banners etc. have been poo-poohed on here but surely we've got to do something?

At the very least to apply some pressure on all parties and provide some more negative exposure? I'm slightly concerned that the WMCA might bail them out with the £13m for the "good of Coventry's sporting clubs".
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,214
No way should a local authority be giving a private enterprise a bail out from taxpayers money
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,215
robbiethemole said:
No way should a local authority be giving a private enterprise a bail out from taxpayers money
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Hmm, that's a big generalisation. In this instance, it's difficult in my view to make a case for it, but there are instances where it's entirely appropriate.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,216
Literally just seen somebody say (A CCFC Fan)

"Why would Wasps fix the pitch for SISU when they want to own the stadium"
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,217
Deleted member 5849 said:
Hmm, that's a big generalisation. In this instance, it's difficult in my view to make a case for it, but there are instances where it's entirely appropriate.
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Such as?
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,218
Did the club really know months ago it would be this bad? They knew it wasn’t being relaid but I’m not sure why people are jumping from that to they knew it would be unsafe to play a game on.

This was the pitch a few weeks ago, if someone had posted that on here at the time and said the first 3 games would be off as the pitch would be deemed to dangerous to play on I suspect the response would have been that the pitch was fine and they were a bedwetter

 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,219
robbiethemole said:
Such as?
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Well, given a sports club is a cultural asset, so assisting them in getting a ground when they run into financial trouble, rather than making it a business deal first and foremost. Further to that, making sure the rent is not set at an eye watering £1m+ commercial terms but something more realistic in order to help the sports club survive and thrive, as you recognise the benefits a sporting club with heritage brings to the city, assisting them with purchasing land with training facilities to improve the club's standing, and therefore the city's profile...

The list can go on.
 
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Johnnythespider

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,220
Did the agronomists say when it would be safe and playable, did they provide an action plan to get the pitch into a playable state, if so why can't we be told this information ?
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,221
Then they let the buffaloes loose on it, perhaps if Wasps had looked after it during the CWG it might have been somewhere near, but they chose to let it suffer and now hopefully the fuckers will pay the price
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,222
Deleted member 5849 said:
Well, given a sports club is a cultural asset, so assisting them in getting a ground when they run into financial trouble, rather than making it a business deal first and foremost. Further to that, making sure the rent is not set at an eye watering £1m+ commercial terms but something more realistic in order to help the sports club survive and thrive, as you recognise the benefits a sporting club with heritage brings to the city, assisting them with purchasing land with training facilities to improve the club's standing, and therefore the city's profile...

The list can go on.
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Accepted then, but when said sports club is practically insolvent,who in their right mind would give them £13m from public funds
 

TomRad85

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,223
Nick said:
Literally just seen somebody say (A CCFC Fan)

"Why would Wasps fix the pitch for SISU when they want to own the stadium"
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Yes there's a few oddball Wasps sympathisers in the fanbase. Usually slightly mentally challenged.

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Ashdown

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,224
LastGarrison said:
I know demonstrations, banners etc. have been poo-poohed on here but surely we've got to do something?

At the very least to apply some pressure on all parties and provide some more negative exposure? I'm slightly concerned that the WMCA might bail them out with the £13m for the "good of Coventry's sporting clubs".
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State aid for sure and back to court
 
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steve cooper

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,225
I said in post 997 back on 6th August, this was a potential disaster for us.
With the weather we have had to compound the problem it's not going to change any time soon.
 

Perryccfc

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,226
Just a thought but would/could Wasps, CCFC, and EFL not come to an arrangement where the EFL assists with pitch renovation? Obviously not outright paying for a new pitch, but maybe assisting with interim ground staff to help bring the pitch to standards? Surely it’s in the EFL interest to get the pitch playable ASAP.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,227
Let’s face it. It’s been a disaster ever since we left Highfield Road. Absolute mess.

We also need to be clear that Sisu can’t afford to build a new stadium and they also don’t have the money to take the arena off wasps.

It isn’t any surprise that article turned up in The Times business section in regards for a buyer to take the club and the arena at the same time. Sisu have known for a while these issues were boiling over with Wasps. This is going to be a turbulent season with these shenanigans.

My enthusiasm for this season is over before it even began. A real shame for fans ultimately.
 
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You'll Never Beat McPake

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,228
I wonder if the rugby league world cup game should be moved to another stadium and that date freed up for CCFC to play one of the postponed games.
 

AOM

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,229
You'll Never Beat McPake said:
I wonder if the rugby league world cup game should be moved to another stadium and that date freed up for CCFC to play one of the postponed games.
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Can't see Wasps agreeing with that. They probably want every penny they can get. We're clearly not a priority
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,230
Evo1883 said:
We should relay it and not sign players..

Fucking next level bollocks
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Look we've done it before and sold players while we were in Northampton that was a gesture I think with nothing back.
If it was at the CBS it would be done on a contra basis against the rent, probably a 1st quarter payment holiday.
The wish for them to die off and pack up was always going to end up with something like this occurring. It's not a given but it may suit the owners that this has cropped more than the team anyway.
 

Hobo

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,231
robbiethemole said:
No way should a local authority be giving a private enterprise a bail out from taxpayers money
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Try telling the Conservatives that with their contracts for mates.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,232
robbiethemole said:
No way should a local authority be giving a private enterprise a bail out from taxpayers money
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500 WASPS jobs at risk you know!
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,233
AOM said:
Can't see Wasps agreeing with that. They probably want every penny they can get. We're clearly not a priority
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Tbf that organisation might just decide it's not worth the risk due to all the publity regardless of whether it's a good pitch or not.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,234
You'll Never Beat McPake said:
I wonder if the rugby league world cup game should be moved to another stadium and that date freed up for CCFC to play one of the postponed games.
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We’re playing Stoke away the day after. The game is on a Friday.
 

stupot07

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,235
Nick said:
Literally just seen somebody say (A CCFC Fan)

"Why would Wasps fix the pitch for SISU when they want to own the stadium"
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What a dickhead

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Johnnythespider

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,236
fernandopartridge said:
If they can't do it we should have done it and offset the investment against the rent

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Wouldn't wasps have to agree to that, i can't see a cash strapped business agreeing to offset rent against a new pitch.
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,237
This shit hardly ever happens in subbuteo....
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,238
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
This shit hardly ever happens in subbuteo....
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Although I did build a huge Lego stadium when I was, what, 10? 11? Couldn't bring myself to take it down, left home and when I came back to visit my bastard parents had dismantled it!
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,239
Johnnythespider said:
Wouldn't wasps have to agree to that, i can't see a cash strapped business agreeing to offset rent against a new pitch.
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Better that than being litigated for the rest I think.
Would imagine it would placate the EFL, whether they have any pressure or sanctions somehow the the ACL arm and not the team.
 

samccov1987

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  • Aug 13, 2022
  • #2,240
Struggling to see what the club can do to remedy the situation. At the moment other than a few internet posts I’m not even sure what work is really going into the pitch.

Have we got the money to lay a pitch ourselves? Possibly but then surely as wasps would also benefit we’d want the money back. Then wasps don’t appear to have any and can’t afford for us to deduct from upcoming rent.

I thought they’d get the Wigan game on but now you have to worry about the rest of our August fixtures.

Can we see Andy Street coming to the rescue with a grant/loan for a new pitch. Would WMCA support this and do we think SISU really want the situation resolved?
 
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