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SIR ERNIE

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #491
marcusp said:
This lies solely on the door step of the Wasps.
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Disagree.
Ultimately all roads lead back to the owners of the football club. Owners of a club with 20k home following in the top half of the championship have full responsibility to ensure that a high quality playing surface is available for every home game. It's just about the most basic fkin requirement isn't it?
The way the club is being run is a total shitfest from top to bottom.
The manager and the better players must wonder why they bother.
Sick of it.
 
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higgs

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #492
Robins will get fed up of this now if they sell the infectious o hare and then the pitch surface being a shambles you couldn't blame him

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mr_monkey

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #493
SIR ERNIE said:
Disagree.
Ultimately all roads lead back to the owners of the football club. Owners of a club with 20k home following in the top half of the championship have full responsibility to ensure that a high quality playing surface is available for every home game. It's just about the most basic fkin requirement isn't it?
The way the club is being run is a total shitfest from top to bottom.
The manager and the better players must wonder why they bother.
Sick of it.
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But if your landlords don't provide it (as they should as per the rental agreement) what else can they do?
 
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Moff

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #494
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
The club pretty much operates hand to mouth.

Seemingly a player sale was needed anyway. Without revenue earned from home games on top of that, that's going to cause a pretty sizeable cash flow issue.
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That’s not the point I was making, and is pretty obvious.

Do you think Sisu would risk losing the whole investment for the sake of a loan.
 
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Torquay Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #495
SIR ERNIE said:
Disagree.
Ultimately all roads lead back to the owners of the football club. Owners of a club with 20k home following in the top half of the championship have full responsibility to ensure that a high quality playing surface is available for every home game. It's just about the most basic fkin requirement isn't it?
The way the club is being run is a total shitfest from top to bottom.
The manager and the better players must wonder why they bother.
Sick of it.
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And if SISU owned the ground the playing surface would be just as bad as they would invite every fucker and his dog "literally " to come and do what they do on it. Never had any interest or intention to build us ...the paying fans of our club a stadium fit for purpose
 
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Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #496
Hopefully the Maddison sale will give us some breathing room if things are as bad as some say (which I don't believe they are, yet).
 
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Johnnythespider

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #497
Grendel said:
SBB’s comments are pretty telling

Despite all the scoffing we can play hard ball it’s obvious we knew we had to sell this window. We have over valued our players and can’t sell. It sounds like both clubs are teetering on the brink
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If we were teetering on the brink we'd have taken the offers that came in.
 
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robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #498
Grendel said:
SBB’s comments are pretty telling

Despite all the scoffing we can play hard ball it’s obvious we knew we had to sell this window. We have over valued our players and can’t sell. It sounds like both clubs are teetering on the brink
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If we need to sell a player we will sell one won’t we? We will get a few million for one of them and if we need to they will go.

Then people will be angry with the owners, you’ll be delighted and you can go back to defending them and slagging of Robins
 
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Deleted member 2477

Guest
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #499
SIR ERNIE said:
Disagree.
Ultimately all roads lead back to the owners of the football club. Owners of a club with 20k home following in the top half of the championship have full responsibility to ensure that a high quality playing surface is available for every home game. It's just about the most basic fkin requirement isn't it?
The way the club is being run is a total shitfest from top to bottom.
The manager and the better players must wonder why they bother.
Sick of it.
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So the owners of the pitch who we pay to maintain it to the standards required so its suitable and fit for purpose arnt to blame.

its like hiring a car that when you get it the engine doesnt work but in your eyes it would be the fault of the customer not the hire company.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #500
bawtryneal said:
If it is off RUFC have not been told yet.
As of 8am this morning they have been told to expect a decision at 6.15pm tonight. They are not happy !
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I don't blame them one little bit.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #501
Terry_dactyl said:
Ah ffs!
Tickets and hotels sorted for this one. I’ll be well pissed off.
Mrs D was saying last night there’s talk on Facebook that it could be called off..which I dismissed immediately as nonsense.

Is the car museum open on Sundays?
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Had to close, all exhibits got punctures, not your week mate.
 
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Deleted member 2477

Guest
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #502
jordan210 said:
Just because the grass is super green doesn’t mean its Perfect

in the first picture. You can still see divots and how uneven it is.

Something wasn’t right when the pitch was laid.

My guess was the pitch hasn’t has time to bed in. Wasn’t there a concert like 2 weeks before the commonwealth?

2-3 weeks isn’t very long to allow everything to settle and bed in esp if your then going to play 11 games worth of rugby on it.
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There was bo new pitch laid. Its the same one as last season
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #503
Johnnythespider said:
If we were teetering on the brink we'd have taken the offers that came in.
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I think the issue is that now that O'Hare is no longer being sold, for the obvious reasons, the club now find themselves in a precarious position.

Especially as if there were interested parties in Hamer and Gyokeres, presumably most, if not all, have probably moved onto other targets.
 

Terry_dactyl

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #504
clint van damme said:
Had to close, all exhibits got punctures, not your week mate.
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Ffs! Binley Mega Chippy it is!
 
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higgs

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #505
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I think the issue is that now that O'Hare is no longer being sold, for the obvious reasons, the club now find themselves in a precarious position.

Especially as if there were interested parties in Hamer and Gyokeres, presumably most, if not all, have probably moved onto other targets.
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The owners will just have to put some more money in extend the prized assets contracts again and flog them next summer

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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #506
Have SISU actually injected any substantial cash into CCFC since about the time of the financial crash in 2009 ?
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #507
higgs said:
The owners will just have to put some more money in extend the prized assets contracts again and flog them next summer

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Again, I think that's the issue. Do SISU have the capability to provide further loans to the club to bridge the gap? I very much doubt it.

With regards to the latter point, I find it difficult to believe Hamer and Gyokeres will extend their current deals. Certainly not if they continue their form of last season.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #508
higgs said:
The owners will just have to put some more money in extend the prized assets contracts again and flog them next summer

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Or Jan. Hopefully we can get through to then at least. I have the same concerns as others that we need to rush a sale through before window closes (if it’s Vik, who’s our most saleable asset, we’re fucked). I’d imagine that SISU should be able to get some cash from somewhere to plug the gap, rather than a fire sale, but who knows

Always trying to find a positive, if they really can’t put any more cash in, that might support the rumour of them being willing to sell if a decent offer comes in
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #509
As predicted, it looks more and more likely one of our best players will be sold for a reduced price.
 
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mr_monkey

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #510
Got to love some of the logic on here... Wasps fail to provide a suitable pitch = boo Sisu
 
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shepardo01

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #511
If we are as desperate as SBB seems to think... we WILL sell... .
More than likely, as I have said before, late in the window, at a lower than expected price.
If we get to 1st Sept and haven't received decent money from any sales, I'd suggest that things aren't as bad as many think!
End of transfer window will tell us where we are as a club.... long way to go still!!
 
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higgs

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #512
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Again, I think that's the issue. Do SISU have the capability to provide further loans to the club to bridge the gap? I very much doubt it.

With regards to the latter point, I find it difficult to believe Hamer and Gyokeres will extend their current deals. Certainly not if they continue their form of last season.
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The assets on the book are worth more than ever before surely they could get some short term investment when they could sell a player for big money in January or in the summer.

I suppose with the players contracts if they got another considerable pay increase and if a buy out clause was inserted you would hope they would re sign if they are happy here but again no guarantees

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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #513
Sick Boy said:
As predicted, it looks more and more likely one of our best players will be sold for a reduced price.
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Is that the SISU masterclass some of our fans were speaking about?
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #514
higgs said:
The assets on the book are worth more than ever before surely they could get some short term investment when they could sell a player for big money in January or in the summer.

I suppose with the players contracts if they got another considerable pay increase and if a buy out clause was inserted you would hope they would re sign if they are happy here but again no guarantees

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I’d assumed some funding had already been raised in June
 

higgs

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #515
Grendel said:
I’d assumed some funding had already been raised in June
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Sounded that way alright after robins met joy I'm sure she can work her charm again

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SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #516
Marty said:
Hopefully the Maddison sale will give us some breathing room if things are as bad as some say (which I don't believe they are, yet).
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He’s signing a new contract at Leicester - SISU will have to find their own money
 

robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #517
the hilarious thing is nobody has a fucking clue what’s going on about this finances and transfer discussions, but everyone’s just invented random shite in their heads to get through the boredom of a boring transfer window

it’s like that game telephone where you all write a sentence down fold it up and pass it on.

One person invents some shite, people argue about whether it is indeed shite or not, then it somehow gets accepted as truth, but then someone else makes up some other shite to make the previous shite more plausible

mental the lot of you
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #518
robbiekeane said:
the hilarious thing is nobody has a fucking clue what’s going on about this finances and transfer discussions, but everyone’s just invented random shite in their heads to get through the boredom of a boring transfer window

it’s like that game telephone where you all write a sentence down fold it up and pass it on.

One person invents some shite, people argue about whether it is indeed shite or not, then it somehow gets accepted as truth, but then someone else makes up some other shite to make the previous shite more plausible

mental the lot of you
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There was a discussion the other day on if Red Bull would purchase the club - many contributed as if it could happen
 
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rexo87

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #519
As good as SBB is with transfers/injuries etc. I'd be very surprised if he knew every detail on the clubs finances

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KenilworthSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #520
higgs said:
The assets on the book are worth more than ever before surely they could get some short term investment when they could sell a player for big money in January or in the summer.

I suppose with the players contracts if they got another considerable pay increase and if a buy out clause was inserted you would hope they would re sign if they are happy here but again no guarantees

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Once interest is received from higher placed clubs and agents subsequently get in a player's ear, then the likelihood that said player will sign a new contract is relatively slim.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #521
rexo87 said:
As good as SBB is with transfers/injuries etc. I'd be very surprised if he knew every detail on the clubs finances

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You don’t really need to know every detail - the accounts show a black hole that’s always had to be funded by player sales - this whole situation seems pretty odd to me
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #522
It’s amazing how posters with inside info are suddenly dismissed as talking rubbish because it goes against what people want to believe.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #523
Sick Boy said:
It’s amazing how posters with inside info are suddenly dismissed as talking rubbish because it goes against what people want to believe.
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Its called Shugs Syndrome
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #524
I’m struggling to see when the Bristol City game could take place in time for the second round if it needs to be rescheduled.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2022
  • #525
marcusp said:
So the owners of the pitch who we pay to maintain it to the standards required so its suitable and fit for purpose arnt to blame.

its like hiring a car that when you get it the engine doesnt work but in your eyes it would be the fault of the customer not the hire company.
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It would if you didn’t make sure the engine working was part of the rental agreement. This is pretty simple, either we signed a deal where we have recourse if a common well known issue arose, or we didn’t And from the noises of “we weren’t allowed in” and “we didn’t know” sounds an awful lot like we didn’t.
 
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