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Transfer Rumour #CARLBAKERDAY (1 Viewer)

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steve82

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #106
oucho said:
Thomas isn't a winger and, as shmmeee says, Reid is likely to leave so I have assumed that in my statement.
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superskyblue said:
At a guess I'd say Thomas has played over 75% of his games wide on the right hand side of midfield. Enough to call him a winger I would say.
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I'd say more of a inside forward these days


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ccfcway

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #107
Captain Dart said:
Good analysis, but forget the Baker option, best to get some more upcoming early 20 somethings in.
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like Haynes, Turnbull and Stevenson ?
 

Adge

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #108
ccfcway said:
like Haynes, Turnbull and Stevenson ?
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Er-no thanks-seen enough of that dross!
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #109
Adge said:
Not the best at CB and doesn't offer enough going forward at RB. In fact I cant remember a decent game he has had a RB.
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There's a surprise
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #110
Looks like he's been taking his coaches badges. Wouldn't say no to having him here as a player / coach. Might take a lower wage if it offers him a path into a coaching role.
 
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shy_tall_knight

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #111
There are certain players you never realised how good they were until you compare them against their replacement - Regis was replaced by Paul Furlong who spent his only season chasing his first touch and having watched JOB I realised how good Baker was.
 
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Adge

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #112
shy_tall_knight said:
There are certain players you never realised how good they were until you compare them against their replacement - Regis was replaced by Paul Furlong who spent his only season chasing his first touch and having watched JOB I realised how good Baker was.
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Robbie Keane-Craig Bellamy.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #113
Adam Armstrong - Andre Wright
 

ovduk78

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #114
Adge said:
Robbie Keane-Craig Bellamy.
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Liquid Gold said:
Adam Armstrong - Andre Wright
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shy_tall_knight said:
There are certain players you never realised how good they were until you compare them against their replacement - Regis was replaced by Paul Furlong who spent his only season chasing his first touch and having watched JOB I realised how good Baker was.
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Great, Coventry City Top Trumps!
My offering is Chris Marden/ Sandy Robertson
 
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AJB1983

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #115
ccfcway said:
I would suggest money might be a problem If he is having to factor in a saving in petrol
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My point is any pay cut would likely be equivalent to the no doubt hundreds of pounds spent in commuting to Portsmouth (and Train tickets to MK when he was there).
Being close to family trumps that every time I would suggest, especially with a little one on the way.
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #116
AJB1983 said:
My point is any pay cut would likely be equivalent to the no doubt hundreds of pounds spent in commuting to Portsmouth (and Train tickets to MK when he was there).
Being close to family trumps that every time I would suggest, especially with a little one on the way.
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To be fair if he's driving down there every day you're looking around £250 per week in fuel alone. Plus the time away from family. It's definitely worth taking into consideration.
 
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SkyBlueCRJ

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #117
Rich said:
To be fair if he's driving down there every day you're looking around £250 per week in fuel alone. Plus the time away from family. It's definitely worth taking into consideration.
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He's also coming to the end of his career. Does he really have a leg to stand on when asking for a high wage?
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #118
JamesCCFC said:
He's also coming to the end of his career. Does he really have a leg to stand on when asking for a high wage?
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He's already getting that wage at Portsmouth.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #119
Rich said:
To be fair if he's driving down there every day you're looking around £250 per week in fuel alone. Plus the time away from family. It's definitely worth taking into consideration.
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He seems someone who would take spending more time at home into consideration. What options have Pompey got, would Baker be their first choice?
 

ccfcway

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #120
Rich said:
To be fair if he's driving down there every day you're looking around £250 per week in fuel alone. Plus the time away from family. It's definitely worth taking into consideration.
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of course, that's assuming that he didn't have petrol expenses written into his contract, which wouldn't be uncommon
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #121
Tommy Hutchison - Leigh Jenkinson (to be fair I rated both very highly and there wasn't much between them)
 

baldy

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #122
ovduk78 said:
Great, Coventry City Top Trumps!
My offering is Chris Marden/ Sandy Robertson
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I take your Marsden/Robertson & give you Babb/Pressley
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #123
steve82 said:
I'd say more of a inside forward these days


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Agree with this, the wide men in the front 3/4 in a 4231 aren't really wingers as such. You can accommodate almost any type of attacking forward player in those three spots behind the front man.
 
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skybluedan

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #124
baldy said:
I take your Marsden/Robertson & give you Babb/Pressley
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I will take your babb/ pressley and give you carlita/eoin Jess
 
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Adge

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #125
Stuart Pearce-Greg Downs!:emoji_disappointed:
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #126
shy_tall_knight said:
There are certain players you never realised how good they were until you compare them against their replacement - Regis was replaced by Paul Furlong who spent his only season chasing his first touch and having watched JOB I realised how good Baker was.
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The thing about Furlong he had just moved from Enfield and that great manager Butcher deemed Regis surplus to requirements when Furlong would
have benefited playing alongside Regis at least for 1 season...great move Terry !!!!
 

baldy

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #127
skybluedan said:
I will take your babb/ pressley and give you carlita/eoin Jess
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Jarni/Froggatt...I win
 
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #128
baldy said:
Jarni/Froggatt...I win
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You lose jarni was a twat.
 

baldy

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #129
letsallsingtogether said:
You lose jarni was a twat.
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So too were Lalas,Steve Bull & countless others then
 
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SkyBlueCRJ

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #130
Rich said:
He's already getting that wage at Portsmouth.
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That's nice for him, if he signs he'll have no choice but to take a cut in order to accommodate our wage cap. Which my guess is around 1,500 a week.
 
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Nick

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #131
JamesCCFC said:
That's nice for him, if he signs he'll have no choice but to take a cut in order to accommodate our wage cap. Which my guess is around 1,500 a week.
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Which is very generous for this league still.
 
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steve82

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #132
JamesCCFC said:
That's nice for him, if he signs he'll have no choice but to take a cut in order to accommodate our wage cap. Which my guess is around 1,500 a week.
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Nick said:
Which is very generous for this league still.
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But not quite as much as the "big payers" in the conference according to Mr Marsh..... apparently!


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SkyBlueCRJ

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #133
steve82 said:
But not quite as much as the "big payers" in the conference according to Mr Marsh..... apparently!


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Funnily enough his actually quote crossed my mind as I was typing. Would be interesting to see what some of the higher earners in the Conference are on. My guess it's nothing over 2/3 grand p/w. It's doubtful any club in non-league can sustain a player on a higher wage than this
 
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SkyBlueCRJ

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #134
Nick said:
Which is very generous for this league still.
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It might've been 3/4 years ago, but now I imagine a wage of 1,500 p/w is the norm amongst League Two promotion challengers.
 

steve82

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #135
JamesCCFC said:
Funnily enough his actually quote crossed my mind as I was typing. Would be interesting to see what some of the higher earners in the Conference are on. My guess it's nothing over 2/3 grand p/w. It's doubtful any club in non-league can sustain a player on a higher wage than this
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The only clubs I'd speculate that are or could would of been Forest Green as they reportedly made big losses year after year to achieve promotion and Tranmere or Dagenham who may still have a few better payed players from there time in league two.

Lincoln too as they had a new owner and recruited a few last summer



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SkyBlueCRJ

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #136
steve82 said:
The only clubs I'd speculate that are or could would of been Forest Green as they reportedly made big losses year after year to achieve promotion and Tranmere or Dagenham who may still have a few better payed players from there time in league two.

Lincoln too as they had a new owner and recruited a few last summer



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Dagenham no chance. I remember reading a piece by Barry Fry a few years back. He was discussing how teams in the lower leagues are being forced to assert themselves as "player selling clubs" in order to remain sustainable. Think he mentioned Dagenham's wage structure as being effectively next to nothing. Plus their fans always seemed to consider staying in League Two as a success. Which suggests that they know they physically can't compete with the bigger teams in the league.

Think Tranmere are in the same boat. Continuously had mass squad changes as a result of dropping from League One into the Conference within the space of 2 seasons. Forest Green would be the most likely of the 3 as I've heard their moneybags owner is highly ambitious and isn't afraid to spend.
 
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ccfcway

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #137
JamesCCFC said:
It might've been 3/4 years ago, but now I imagine a wage of 1,500 p/w is the norm amongst League Two promotion challengers.
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that's good then ?, we are paying the norm for league two promotion challengers ?
 
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SkyBlueCRJ

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #138
ccfcway said:
that's good then ?, we are paying the norm for league two promotion challengers ?
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Never said we weren't. I'm discussing what wage Baker would be offered if he was bought in. It's been pointed out that Baker is on high wages. So, if that was above/equated to 1,500 p/w at Portsmouth then he'll have to take a reduction in his contract. If he signed, his wage would largely involve bonus type incentives rather than a typical League Two promotion challenging wage with inclusive basic playing bonuses on top. This is due to his age and because of the players already signed that we can only assume would start ahead of him. It would be illogical to give him a contract that aligns with the norm for League Two promotion challengers because it's likely he would only be used as a squad player.
 
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steve82

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #139
JamesCCFC said:
Dagenham no chance. I remember reading a piece by Barry Fry a few years back. He was discussing how teams in the lower leagues are being forced to assert themselves as "player selling clubs" in order to remain sustainable. Think he mentioned Dagenham's wage structure as being effectively next to nothing. Plus their fans always seemed to consider staying in League Two as a success. Which suggests that they know they physically can't compete with the bigger teams in the league.

Think Tranmere are in the same boat. Continuously had mass squad changes as a result of dropping from League One into the Conference within the space of 2 seasons. Forest Green would be the most likely of the 3 as I've heard their moneybags owner is highly ambitious and isn't afraid to spend.
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Could be right about Dagenham as last year there home attendance averaged 1300, with nearly 32,000 through the gates in a league season. It's not sustainable, unless bankrolled and that's less likely.

Lincoln and Tranmere averaged 5000 tho and we no Forest Greens situation.... they only averaged 1750 with just over 40,000 punters and had heavy losses.

It can only be Forest Green really.


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ccfcway

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  • Jun 23, 2017
  • #140
JamesCCFC said:
If he signed, his wage would largely involve bonus type incentives rather than a typical League Two promotion challenging wage with inclusive basic playing bonuses on top. This is due to his age and because of the players already signed that we can only assume would start ahead of him.
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Don't get this. He played 45 games last season for a team who won promotion. Why would he then join us on a reduced wage to be considered nothing more than a squad player ?
 
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