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Transfer Rumour #CARLBAKERDAY (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter We'll_live_and_die
  • Start date May 23, 2017
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chiefdave

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  • May 24, 2017
  • #71
Wouldn't be unhappy if he came back but wouldn't be upset if he didn't either.
 
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northernskyblue

Member
  • May 24, 2017
  • #72
Baker would be good in League 2 again, but all this 'he's good enough for L1' or 'Baker is amazing' rhetoric is horsesh*t I think.

Supremely fit, does contribute to goals but he's playing L2 for a reason now- he's not quite good enough for L1.

Having said that, the excitement it'd give the fans if he came in would be almost worth it alone, and we'd get as many games out of him next year as we wanted so I'd be happy enough to see Bakes return.


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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #73
Guess he isn't coming back?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #74
His wife is pregnant which may encourage him to be based close to home.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #75
Where would he fit? I don't really think we need him at all now.
 

oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #76
Nick said:
Where would he fit? I don't really think we need him at all now.
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Robins says he wants 5 more signings. Generally Id'd say we need one senior squad member for each position, so if we play 442 then we need 4 wings (1 right winger, 1 left winger, and one cover for each). We deffo don't have 4 wide players on the books now and CB is versatile so I'd say there is a squad place for him.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #77
oucho said:
Robins says he wants 5 more signings. Generally Id'd say we need one senior squad member for each position, so if we play 442 then we need 4 wings (1 right winger, 1 left winger, and one cover for each). We deffo don't have 4 wide players on the books now and CB is versatile so I'd say there is a squad place for him.
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I think we're likely to play 4231 as Robins seems to have always played that. Assuming that, this is our current squad:

GK: LOB/RCC/Burge - Looks OK to me
RB: Willis/DKE - Willis might be off, if so we need a RB
CB1: McDonald, Hyam - Looks OK
CB2: Turnbull, Harries - Both of these could be off, need a CB or two
LB: Stokes/???? - Need a LB if Haynes doesn't sign
DM1: Doyle/Stevenson - Stevenson could be off
DM2: Kelly/???? - Need another DM here
RM: Vincetti/??? - Need a RM if Thomas doesn't sign
AM: McNulty/??? - Need an AM
LM: Jones/Reid - Likely to lose Reid
ST: Beavon/K Thomas - Arguably need another ST here, plus Beavon could go anyway.

Worst case: RB, CB, CB, LB, DM, DM, RM, AM, LM, ST (that's a whole outfield side)
Best case (no one leaves and Haynes and Thomas resign): DM, AM, ST

Either of those could fit Baker in.
 
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oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #78
shmmeee said:
I think we're likely to play 4231 as Robins seems to have always played that. Assuming that, this is our current squad:

GK: LOB/RCC/Burge - Looks OK to me
RB: Willis/DKE - Willis might be off, if so we need a RB
CB1: McDonald, Hyam - Looks OK
CB2: Turnbull, Harries - Both of these could be off, need a CB or two
LB: Stokes/???? - Need a LB if Haynes doesn't sign
DM1: Doyle/Stevenson - Stevenson could be off
DM2: Kelly/???? - Need another DM here
RM: Vincetti/??? - Need a RM if Thomas doesn't sign
AM: McNulty/??? - Need an AM
LM: Jones/Reid - Likely to lose Reid
ST: Beavon/K Thomas - Arguably need another ST here, plus Beavon could go anyway.

Worst case: RB, CB, CB, LB, DM, DM, RM, AM, LM, ST (that's a whole outfield side)
Best case (no one leaves and Haynes and Thomas resign): DM, AM, ST

Either of those could fit Baker in.
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I have liked that but the thought of Willis ever playing RB for us again regularly has me shaking, cold-sweating and screaming in terror in my sleep....I think Hyam is the RB and Willis the CB in the above.
 
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superskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #79
oucho said:
Robins says he wants 5 more signings. Generally Id'd say we need one senior squad member for each position, so if we play 442 then we need 4 wings (1 right winger, 1 left winger, and one cover for each). We deffo don't have 4 wide players on the books now and CB is versatile so I'd say there is a squad place for him.
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Vincenti, G Thomas, Jones, Reid?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #80
oucho said:
I have liked that but the thought of Willis ever playing RB for us again regularly has me shaking, cold-sweating and screaming in terror in my sleep....I think Hyam is the RB and Willis the CB in the above.
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Willis is better as a right back than a centre back. He is far too rash to be a centre back.
 
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quinn1971

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #81
robins has asked baker to come back but what they were offering him wasn't enough,can't blame him, shame as would have been good alongside Doyle
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #82
we could do with another winger/amc tbh. hope he signs
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #83
quinn1971 said:
robins has asked baker to come back but what they were offering him wasn't enough,can't blame him, shame as would have been good alongside Doyle
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How would you know that?
 
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skybluesam66

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #84
unless he plays in the hole behind the front 2, he is too much of a liability defensively
so ok as a squad player in which case i agree with not breaking the budget to get him -
 

steve82

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #85
Personally I don't see how we could fit Carl in now after the arrival or vincenti.
We do however desperately need a set piece man to capitalise on free kicks around the box.
Even more so now Bigi has gone. (I'm joking...)


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quinn1971

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #86
Rich said:
How would you know that?
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friend of a friend
 

Otis

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #87
quinn1971 said:
friend of a friend
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Was it Mr. Chin E Sewhisper?
 
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AJB1983

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #88
I won't say how I know, but I would be extremely surprised if he didn't sign for us again. I would suggest it's almost nailed on that he's coming back.
Money would be the only stumbling block but wondering whether that would be such a problem? Less petrol money for example!
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #89
I don't know why money would be a problem for him. Surely he makes loads on the Avon.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #90
If he does sign it is going to be like when we had shit loads of strikers but no defenders.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #91
AJB1983 said:
I won't say how I know, but I would be extremely surprised if he didn't sign for us again. I would suggest it's almost nailed on that he's coming back.
Money would be the only stumbling block but wondering whether that would be such a problem? Less petrol money for example!
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I would suggest money might be a problem If he is having to factor in a saving in petrol
 
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We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #92
quinn1971 said:
friend of a friend
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AJB1983 said:
I won't say how I know, but I would be extremely surprised if he didn't sign for us again. I would suggest it's almost nailed on that he's coming back.
Money would be the only stumbling block but wondering whether that would be such a problem? Less petrol money for example!
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Two very different claims from you guys here.
 
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Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #93
I had no issue with Baker, he also can pop up with a goal or two which we have been missing from midfield for years. My issue is that I don't know where he would fit in this team given recent signings plus the fact that we most certainly have a finite budget which needs to be applied in other positions more urgently.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #94
we have jones,reid,g thomas(maybe)vicente,mcnulty for the 3 behind striker in a 4-2-3-1?

i would welcome one more addition to that line myself.
 

Malaka

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #95
buying out the year on his pompey contract is the sticking point
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #96
shmmeee said:
I think we're likely to play 4231 as Robins seems to have always played that. Assuming that, this is our current squad:

GK: LOB/RCC/Burge - Looks OK to me
RB: Willis/DKE - Willis might be off, if so we need a RB
CB1: McDonald, Hyam - Looks OK
CB2: Turnbull, Harries - Both of these could be off, need a CB or two
LB: Stokes/???? - Need a LB if Haynes doesn't sign
DM1: Doyle/Stevenson - Stevenson could be off
DM2: Kelly/???? - Need another DM here
RM: Vincetti/??? - Need a RM if Thomas doesn't sign
AM: McNulty/??? - Need an AM
LM: Jones/Reid - Likely to lose Reid
ST: Beavon/K Thomas - Arguably need another ST here, plus Beavon could go anyway.

Worst case: RB, CB, CB, LB, DM, DM, RM, AM, LM, ST (that's a whole outfield side)
Best case (no one leaves and Haynes and Thomas resign): DM, AM, ST

Either of those could fit Baker in.
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Good analysis, but forget the Baker option, best to get some more upcoming early 20 somethings in.
 

oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #97
fernandopartridge said:
Willis is better as a right back than a centre back. He is far too rash to be a centre back.
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Were you at Orient away when we went there with Pressley? He was eye-wateringly bad that day at RB.
 

oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #98
superskyblue said:
Vincenti, G Thomas, Jones, Reid?
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Thomas isn't a winger and, as shmmeee says, Reid is likely to leave so I have assumed that in my statement.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #99
Malaka said:
buying out the year on his pompey contract is the sticking point
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If that's the case then all we need is for Baker to hold tight on signing for anybody else. Pompey will waver and take what's being offered eventually.
 
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superskyblue

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #100
At a guess I'd say Thomas has played over 75% of his games wide on the right hand side of midfield. Enough to call him a winger I would say.
 
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SuperFred

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  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #101
Rich said:
Two very different claims from you guys here.
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It's almost as if you can't trust what random people on the internet say...
 
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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #102
superskyblue said:
At a guess I'd say Thomas has played over 75% of his games wide on the right hand side of midfield. Enough to call him a winger I would say.
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I think Thomas is going to be a McSheff type. Started up top but found his position on the wing.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #103
Liquid Gold said:
I think Thomas is going to be a McSheff type. Started up top but found his position on the wing.
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As long as he doesn't ever do a throw in directly out for a goal kick where nobody is for no reason then he will be fine!

 

oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #104
superskyblue said:
At a guess I'd say Thomas has played over 75% of his games wide on the right hand side of midfield. Enough to call him a winger I would say.
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Enough to call him "consistently played out of position" I would say!
 

Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2017
  • #105
oucho said:
Were you at Orient away when we went there with Pressley? He was eye-wateringly bad that day at RB.
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Not the best at CB and doesn't offer enough going forward at RB. In fact I cant remember a decent game he has had a RB.
 
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