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Match Thread Cardiff - Home - wednesday the 15th (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Sep 10, 2021
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #211
shmmeee said:
Well you got one of my opinions right.

Glad you had a break from overanalysing Sheaf to back up your first impressions on Saturday though.
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Again ..im totally realistic about sheaf

Told you before you're good at the politics
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #212
shmmeee said:
You honestly don’t know what “winning the ball” means??

He’s made more successful tackles than anyone else.

You’re like a dog with a bone when you don’t like a player. First couple of games I’d have agreed he looked shaky defensively but he’s improved massively.
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That's pretty ironic given your stance on McCallum last season
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #213
Deleted member 9744 said:
That's pretty ironic given your stance on McCallum last season
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What stance is that? That hes a decent defender but lacks the quality use of the ball as a wingback and that he improved towards the end when we went more direct and used his aerial ability and long throws?

I stand by it.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #214
Today on SBT we learn opinions on players exist outside of the Hill Binary*

*SHIT or WORLD CLASS
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #215
shmmeee said:
Today on SBT we learn opinions on players exist outside of the Hill Binary*

*SHIT or WORLD CLASS
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To be fair , I just don't think maatson is as good as you do .. I think teams will continue to target that side

I just think he's " ok"
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #216
Evo1883 said:
To be fair , I just don't think maatson is as good as you do .. I think teams will continue to target that side

I just think he's " ok"
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You really are finding something that’s not there for me. Granted I’ve only watched the last two home games but I don’t recall at all teams focusing on the left or right.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #217
Evo1883 said:
To be fair , I just don't think maatson is as good as you do .. I think teams will continue to target that side

I just think he's " ok"
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Ive said before I see wingback as more a midfield position than a defensive one. We play 3412 not 5212. I think Maatsen is a massive upgrade going forwards and is improving defensively.

That comment was more aimed at the idea that because I don’t say a player is worthless inthink they’re great or because don’t stay a player is perfect I think they’re worthless.
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #218
Sky Blue Pete said:
You really are finding something that’s not there for me. Granted I’ve only watched the last two home games but I don’t recall at all teams focusing on the left or right.
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Disagree
 

SleepyGinger

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #219
I think both fullbacks deserve to keep their place. Kane will have to wait a while for his chance.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #220
SleepyGinger said:
I think both fullbacks deserve to keep their place. Kane will have to wait a while for his chance.
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I don't think anybody is suggesting he's dropped .
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #221
Maatsen is 19 years old playing his first few games at this level. Of course he's not going to be Roberto Carlos straight off the bat.

Dabo scored two own goals and gave away some pens in his first games aged 22 in League One.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #222
Evo1883 said:
Disagree
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I’ll keep a note you may be correct

meet up again after the Cardiff game to compare notes
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #223
Evo1883 said:
To be fair , I just don't think maatson is as good as you do .. I think teams will continue to target that side

I just think he's " ok"
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Agree with this. Maatsen is ok adequate. Yes hes won the ball back alot of times but hes given it away alot too in dangerous areas one of which almost cost us on Saturday.
 
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CV22SBA

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #224
Londonccfcfan said:
Agree with this. Maatsen is ok adequate. Yes hes won the ball back alot of times but hes given it away alot too in dangerous areas one of which almost cost us on Saturday.
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Me too and i do think teams try to attack us more down Maatsen's side. Boro very nearly scored because he was messing around with it near the halfway line and they didn't track back. He certainly looks better than he did in the first couple of games though but i'd feel more comfortable with Kane there. Not sure why Kane went right back when he came on anyway.
 

Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #225
Hamer to score , think it will be a physical battle across the pitch . Defence will be under pressure from the Cardiff attack but will weather it out and Cov will win 2-1
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #226
CV22SBA said:
Me too and i do think teams try to attack us more down Maatsen's side. Boro very nearly scored because he was messing around with it near the halfway line and they didn't track back. He certainly looks better than he did in the first couple of games though but i'd feel more comfortable with Kane there. Not sure why Kane went right back when he came on anyway.
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Because he’s a right wing back?
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #227
CV22SBA said:
Me too and i do think teams try to attack us more down Maatsen's side. Boro very nearly scored because he was messing around with it near the halfway line and they didn't track back. He certainly looks better than he did in the first couple of games though but i'd feel more comfortable with Kane there. Not sure why Kane went right back when he came on anyway.
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In the Boro game they attacked 38% down our right and 39% down our left. Hardly targeting him.

 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #228
QPR 7 percentage points more attacking down our right than our left.

https://1xbet.whoscored.com/Matches/1553607/MatchReport/England-Championship-2021-2022-Queens-Park-Rangers-Coventry

People see what they want to see.
 
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CV22SBA

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #229
shmmeee said:
Because he’s a right wing back?
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Can play either and prefers to cut in from the left. Just found it strange to bring him on but then put Dabo left back when he has no left foot.
 
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CV22SBA

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #230
Liquid Gold said:
In the Boro game they attacked 38% down our right and 39% down our left. Hardly targeting him.

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Didn't say boro did? Be interested to see the Barnsley, QPR & Forest stats though.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #231
CV22SBA said:
Can play either and prefers to cut in from the left. Just found it strange to bring him on but then put Dabo left back when he has no left foot.
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Hmmm

 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #232
Maatsen and JCS look absolutely knackered after about 70 mins. The sooner they get to full fitness then that will give MR more options to utilise other substitutions as its only 3 this year.
 
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JAM See

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #233
Liquid Gold said:
Maatsen is 19 years old playing his first few games at this level. Of course he's not going to be Roberto Carlos straight off the bat.

Dabo scored two own goals and gave away some pens in his first games aged 22 in League One.
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Maatsen is the new Danny Fox. He will do well.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #234
CV22SBA said:
Didn't say boro did? Be interested to see the Barnsley, QPR & Forest stats though.
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QPR: 7pp more down our right
Forest: even
Barnsley: 22pp more down our left
 

Warwickhunt

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #235
Watched Forest v Cardiff on Sunday and must say was not a lot for us to fear likewise as Mboro did they threw on a couple of trees to bolster their aerial threat second half and got a result because Forest did not change
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #236
shmmeee said:
QPR 7 percentage points more attacking down our right than our left.

https://1xbet.whoscored.com/Matches/1553607/MatchReport/England-Championship-2021-2022-Queens-Park-Rangers-Coventry

People see what they want to see.
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He struggled against qpr , I saw that
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #237
Without getting too involved in the debate, Maatsen is a far better player than Da Costa.
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #238
ccfc_Tom said:
Could see Kane starting over Dabo in this one. Love Dabo, but Kane sounds like hes a very physical player and we might need that. Maybe even Dabo LWB and Kane RWB. Sheaf for Allen makes sense but that was the best I have seen Allen in a city shirt vs borough, I would keep in. Sheaf for Hamer anyone?
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Would be mad not to play Dabo at RWB, particularly if Giles as playing as I would expect Dabo to win their battle. I can't really see Hamer being dropped to the bench either.
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #239
Listen , I think some people just assume I dislike players .

Of the players who have started most matches so far (played the most minutes ) he's only got a higher overall rating than waghorn who fans have been more than happy to pan , its almost like I have eyes .

Is he bad ... no
He's just OK

Hopefully he gets better
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #240
Liquid Gold said:
Maatsen is 19 years old playing his first few games at this level. Of course he's not going to be Roberto Carlos straight off the bat.

Dabo scored two own goals and gave away some pens in his first games aged 22 in League One.
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Don't forget Sterling was dreadful in his early games
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #241
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Without getting too involved in the debate, Maatsen is a far better player than Da Costa.
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My daughter is a better player than da Costa
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #242
Legia Sky Blue said:
Would be mad not to play Dabo at RWB, particularly if Giles as playing as I would expect Dabo to win their battle. I can't really see Hamer being dropped to the bench either.
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The only change I can see is sheaf for Allen.. depending on wether Robins rewards Allen for his performance Saturday

He could actually start Walker and rest waghorn for Saturday.

Can't see too much change
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #243
JAM See said:
Maatsen is the new Danny Fox. He will do well.
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What an aspiration for a Chelsea player to be the new Danny Fox
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #244
Grendel said:
What an aspiration for a Chelsea player to be the new Danny Fox
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Fox was a good player here to be fair
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #245
Evo1883 said:
Fox was a good player here to be fair
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I am not saying he wasn't but hardly the same as this guy in build and overall play at all.
 
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