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Transfer Rumour Callum O'Hare - Confirmed (1 Viewer)

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Garryb80

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #526
mark82 said:
Technically it's not wrong. The signing isn't official until the transfer window opens, it's just clubs sometimes choose to announce players outside of the window once contracts, etc are signed.
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But that doesn't stop anyone signing ohare and announcing it does it?
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #527
What Robins and his players have said about O'Hare decision

Sounds like the club are still hopeful, @better days didnt you say no1 at the club thinks he’s coming ? Still time maybe then as he’s weighing up his options etc
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #528
Garryb80 said:
But that doesn't stop anyone signing ohare and announcing it does it?
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It doesn't, no. No-one has signed him yet, we have a good chance as he knows the club but we don't know what other offers he has. It won't make or break our season but I'd be thrilled if he did join.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #529
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
It would probably also be even more unwise to do so for a known entity among the squad from last season. It's not like you could turn round and say CoH was the difference between us getting promoted or not. It was very much a collective effort which everyone played their part in. There are definitely other players who could claim they were more integral to the team success than O'Hare so if he came in on a bigger wage they'd be straight in asking for a raise and could justify it in comparison.
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If we hadn’t had Walsh and O Hare we wouldn’t have been promoted as a collective they were pretty impressive
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #530
cc84cov said:
What Robins and his players have said about O'Hare decision

Sounds like the club are still hopeful, @better days didnt you say no1 at the club thinks he’s coming ? Still time maybe then as he’s weighing up his options etc
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If you read that from Robins' quotes, we're still hopeful of signing Walsh, too...
 
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johnwillomagic

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #531
They were good but let's put this in perspective they were on loan and not ours and seem to have built messi like stauses.

Stephen Warnock was great for us on loan,
Jordan Henderson was good for us on loan...
Bright was good for us on loan,,,
Walsh & O'Hare good for uson loan.....

life goes one and I am sure with our scouting team currently we will get good permanent and on loan replacements for both.
Robins clearly rates Hamer to say he's a dirct replacement for Walsh ...put pressure on lad straight away so think Robins clearly
rates him and his ability to handle the pressure!
 
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johnwillomagic

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #532
Dare I say it yes hell I will Jacob Murphy was great for us on loan too,.,,,
 
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johnwillomagic

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #533
Adam Armstong...etc .etc.... people getting far to hung up on Walsh and OHare
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #534
Cedric Roussel, good for us on loan....
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #535
johnwillomagic said:
Adam Armstong...etc .etc.... people getting far to hung up on Walsh and OHare
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Not really as they were the mainstay of the teams midfield last season and were key to being promoted. It wouldn’t have mattered if Ferguson and Wallace were on loan in that season - without them the next season there’s a void to fill
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #536
Grendel said:
Not really as they were the mainstay of the teams midfield last season and were key to being promoted. It wouldn’t have mattered if Ferguson and Wallace were on loan in that season - without them the next season there’s a void to fill
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Once we lost Armstrong and Murpohy, it didn't exactly go wonderfully for us, either...
 
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shepardo01

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #537
Deleted member 5849 said:
If you read that from Robins' quotes, we're still hopeful of signing Walsh, too...
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...haven't read it. Its from the Cov Tel.
Straight from Robins mouth on CWR he said that "Hamer was a direct replacement for Walshy"
Read into that what you will!!
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #538
shepardo01 said:
...haven't read it. Its from the Cov Tel.
Straight from Robins mouth on CWR he said that "Hamer was a direct replacement for Walshy"
Read into that what you will!!
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When myself and Pete spoke with Dave Boddy a few months ago he said that if Walsh had his option taken up he was out of our reach financially. That one is is a no go.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #539
mark82 said:
When myself and Pete spoke with Dave Boddy a few months ago he said that if Walsh had his option taken up he was out of our reach financially. That one is is a no go.
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That was kind of my point...
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #540
cc84cov said:
What Robins and his players have said about O'Hare decision

Sounds like the club are still hopeful, @better days didnt you say no1 at the club thinks he’s coming ? Still time maybe then as he’s weighing up his options etc
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Looks more like they've expressed interest but he's clearly weighing up all the offers and seeing how the season pans out. Probably a bit like ourselves at the moment.
 

cc84cov

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #541
johnwillomagic said:
Adam Armstong...etc .etc.... people getting far to hung up on Walsh and OHare
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Walsh is probably the best loan I’ve seen here for a long time.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #542
cc84cov said:
Walsh is probably the best loan I’ve seen here for a long time.
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I'm really hoping he can't break in at Bristol City and we get a shot at him in January.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #543
Grendel said:
If we hadn’t had Walsh and O Hare we wouldn’t have been promoted as a collective they were pretty impressive
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Same could be said of Marosi. And Dabo. The three centre backs as a unit. Kelly providing experience alongside Walsh. Shouldn't iss out Godden or McCallum either.

O'Hare made his most telling contributions from the bench. Shipley, Westbrooke and Allen also looked good in those advanced midfield roles in different ways and I reckon even without O'Hare we'd have been fine in that position even though we'd have lost that slightly more direct option he gave..

I still doesn't say think we should break the bank to get him. If he wants a comparable wage to the rest of the squad by all means. If he wants a fair bit more I'd question if he was worth it.
 

speedie87

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #544
cc84cov said:
Walsh is probably the best loan I’ve seen here for a long time.
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Walsh was the best player I’ve seen here for a long time!
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #545
Grendel said:
Not really as they were the mainstay of the teams midfield last season and were key to being promoted. It wouldn’t have mattered if Ferguson and Wallace were on loan in that season - without them the next season there’s a void to fill
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Shipley started 32 games, Westbrooke 29, O'Hare 23. Allen would've been in that equation too but for injury. Westbrooke and Shipley both scored more goals and Walsh got the same despite playing deeper. As for DCM Kelly started 35 and Walsh 32. O'Hare made by far the most sub appearances of them so to say he was one of the mainstay's isn't accurate.

Yes, he had become much more of a starter at Westbrooke's expense towards the end of the season and would probably have been on a similar number of starts but it's not like we didn't play quite a few games without him starting.

We could do with someone who plays like O'Hare because he's a bit different in terms of direct running but it doesn't mean it has to be O'Hare. Season before last we had Sterling. Couldn't get him back. Ended up with Dabo instead.O'Hare came in for Bright. If he signs it'll be nice but if he doesn't it won't be the end of the world.
 
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better days

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #546
cc84cov said:
What Robins and his players have said about O'Hare decision

Sounds like the club are still hopeful, @better days didnt you say no1 at the club thinks he’s coming ? Still time maybe then as he’s weighing up his options etc
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Tbh it reminds me of Bright after he had a successful loan with us and the fans and management thought he really wanted to come back
He essentially used us a lever to ratchet a new deal at Wolves
He got a lot more money but hardly played
Football is a job for these guys
We would probably be the same if we were in their position
It's a short career and their advisors will be reminding them of that at times like these
 
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ccfcway

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #547
better days said:
Tbh it reminds me of Bright after he had a successful loan with us and the fans and management thought he really wanted to come back
He essentially used us a lever to ratchet a new deal at Wolves
He got a lot more money but hardly played
Football is a job for these guys
We would probably be the same if we were in their position
It's a short career and their advisors will be reminding them of that at times like these
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exactly. We have effectively left players like Reise Allassani, Charlie Wakefield and Dexter Walters to hunt for a job in a lower division and lesser wage. We haven't showed any loyalty to them, how can we expect the same the other way ?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #548
better days said:
Tbh it reminds me of Bright after he had a successful loan with us and the fans and management thought he really wanted to come back
He essentially used us a lever to ratchet a new deal at Wolves
He got a lot more money but hardly played
Football is a job for these guys
We would probably be the same if we were in their position
It's a short career and their advisors will be reminding them of that at times like these
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Accepted more than one deal to then ask for more. Better of without that kind of prima donna
 

Paxman II

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #549
fernandopartridge said:
Christ almighty, every post of yours is based on the same demonstrably incorrect assumptions
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Not really. I imentioned it was a guess. Base on other championship sides and the fact we will need to at least be approaching a competative level I'll stand by my guesswork thank you until proven wrong. If you seriously don't think our average first team member will be on something like 6k a week then I'd like to know how MR's has been able to keep his squad together! It's the championship I'm talking about not league 1
 

higgs

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #550
Any chance of Leon Clarke coming back to us @better days?

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mrtrench

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  • Jul 12, 2020
  • #551
higgs said:
Any chance of Leon Clarke coming back to us @better days?

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I think that's unlikely as he's 35. It's not the way we do things. I don't think it's a good idea myself.
 
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mrtrench

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  • Jul 12, 2020
  • #552
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Shipley started 32 games
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Shipperz came on leaps and bounds last year and he's still only 22 (although nearly 23). I'm excited to see if he continues to improve and becomes a regular in the Championship.
 
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larry_david

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  • Jul 12, 2020
  • #553
Shippers is younger than o hare..
 
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Magwitch

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  • Jul 12, 2020
  • #554
mrtrench said:
Shipperz came on leaps and bounds last year and he's still only 22 (although nearly 23). I'm excited to see if he continues to improve and becomes a regular in the Championship.
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For some reason very underrated by some on here.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jul 12, 2020
  • #555
Shipley is one to get slagged off in the stands. There’s a player every season. He’s one of our best, certainly in prospect too.
 
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Warwickhunt

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  • Jul 12, 2020
  • #556
higgs said:
Any chance of Leon Clarke coming back to us @better days?

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Rather have Murray from Brighton for a season personally.
 
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Alkhen

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  • Jul 12, 2020
  • #557
Warwickhunt said:
Rather have Murray from Brighton for a season personally.
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Unfortunately he'd be well out of our league. Dispite his age he has scored goals wherever he has been so would still command serious wages
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jul 12, 2020
  • #558
Tommo1993 said:
Shipley is one to get slagged off in the stands. There’s a player every season. He’s one of our best, certainly in prospect too.
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Shipley also was ahead of O’Hare in terms of Robins selection
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jul 12, 2020
  • #559
higgs said:
Any chance of Leon Clarke coming back to us @better days?

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We can’t afford him
 

Tommo1993

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2020
  • #560
Noticed the begging on social media continues. I really wish they’d stop.
 
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