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  • Start date May 17, 2025
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Yesterday at 9:08 AM
  • #456
Lamps said:
Unless MVE is sold we've spent slightly more than we've had coming in.
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Binks + Vik money?
Vs
KKH = £3.5mil?
 
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stgeorge1966

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 9:09 AM
  • #457
Callum Doyle is not coming to us END OF
 
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stupot07

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  • Yesterday at 9:10 AM
  • #458
Terry_dactyl said:
Binks + Vik money?
Vs
KKH = £3.5mil?
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We'd have probably paid a loan fee for Rushworth too.
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Yesterday at 9:13 AM
  • #459
stupot07 said:
We'd have probably paid a loan fee for Rushworth too.
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Oh yeah. I reckon we’re still up.
 
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Lamps

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  • Yesterday at 9:15 AM
  • #460
Terry_dactyl said:
Binks + Vik money?
Vs
KKH = £3.5mil?
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The money was spent before Lampard came in.

Grimes £3.5m
KKH £3.5m

Binks £2.5m
Gyokeres somewhere around £3m
 

Balli001

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  • Yesterday at 9:29 AM
  • #461
Party time guys!
stgeorge1966 said:
Callum Doyle is not coming to us END OF
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Matt smith

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  • Yesterday at 9:31 AM
  • #462
stgeorge1966 said:
Callum Doyle is not coming to us END OF
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More likely to happen now
 
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Martw

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  • Yesterday at 9:31 AM
  • #463
stgeorge1966 said:
Callum Doyle is not coming to us END OF
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Bloody Nora this place is full of spoilsports this morning
 

Chicken Mcgraw

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 9:52 AM
  • #464
He was playing golf with @SBchimp son the other day. Should just ask him
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Yesterday at 9:59 AM
  • #465
Lamps said:
The money was spent before Lampard came in.

Grimes £3.5m
KKH £3.5m

Binks £2.5m
Gyokeres somewhere around £3m
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Well…how do you know that? Given that Lampard was here when we signed Grimes…

Anyway, I don’t know either. Just speculation really.

I just want us to sign Doyle.
 
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Hincha

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  • Yesterday at 10:08 AM
  • #466
Approaching 500 posts and not one credible link

Never change SBT
 

Lamps

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  • Yesterday at 10:16 AM
  • #467
Terry_dactyl said:
Well…how do you know that? Given that Lampard was here when we signed Grimes…

Anyway, I don’t know either. Just speculation really.

I just want us to sign Doyle.
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Added up all the fees as we brought in players. By the time Lampard came it was all spent.

Of course Lampard was here when we signed Grimes. That's why I listed him as a player signed after Lampard arrived
 

David O'Day

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  • Yesterday at 10:19 AM
  • #468
stgeorge1966 said:
Callum Doyle is not coming to us END OF
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good news he is signing then - cheers for confirming it
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Yesterday at 10:21 AM
  • #469
Lamps said:
Added up all the fees as we brought in players. By the time Lampard came it was all spent.

Of course Lampard was here when we signed Grimes. That's why I listed him as a player signed after Lampard arrived
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But you said the money was spent before Lampard came in?

I sense that we could go on here.
 

Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 10:23 AM
  • #470
Terry_dactyl said:
Well…how do you know that? Given that Lampard was here when we signed Grimes…

Anyway, I don’t know either. Just speculation really.

I just want us to sign Doyle.
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We get between £10m and £12m Tv revenue and King is funding the clubs operational losses of 7m every season. Money will be there to buy.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Yesterday at 10:28 AM
  • #471
Grendel said:
We get between £10m and £12m Tv revenue and King is funding the clubs operational losses of 7m every season. Money will be there to buy.
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The thought of funding a 7m loss every year would be shit
 

Lamps

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  • Yesterday at 10:30 AM
  • #472
Terry_dactyl said:
But you said the money was spent before Lampard came in?

I sense that we could go on here.
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Yes. Will be polite and not looking for an argument.

Money spent before Lampard arrived.

Lampard signings

Grimes £3.5M
KKH £3.5M

Binks £2.5m
Gyokeres about £3m

So we haven't got money left over from the sales of Gyokeres and Hamer as you thought.
 
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stupot07

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  • Yesterday at 10:33 AM
  • #473
It's not just about transfer fees but increasing wage bills. We know in the past that add ons and windfalls have been built into funding operating costs. Additionally, we will be paying out additional ons etc for the signings we've made.
 
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Lamps

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  • Yesterday at 10:33 AM
  • #474
Flying Fokker said:
The thought of funding a 7m loss every year would be shit
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But the thought of £100m on promotion isn't too shabby.
 

Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 10:33 AM
  • #475
Lamps said:
Yes. Will be polite and not looking for an argument.

Money spent before Lampard arrived.

Lampard signings

Grimes £3.5M
KKH £3.5M

Binks £2.5m
Gyokeres about £3m

So we haven't got money left over from the sales of Gyokeres and Hamer as you thought.
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That’s not how the club operates when evaluating its transfer budget
 
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Lamps

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  • Yesterday at 10:37 AM
  • #476
Grendel said:
That’s not how the club operates when evaluating its transfer budget
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It isn't. But as you know I was responding to someone who was saying we're still positive from their sales and is now trying his best not to understand. Now you come along looking to cause an argument as usual.
 

Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 10:40 AM
  • #477
Lamps said:
It isn't. But as you know I was responding to someone who was saying we're still positive from their sales and is now trying his best not to understand. Now you come along looking to cause an argument as usual.
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How am I creating an argument.

No transfer fees are made public anyway. All anyone knows is a transfer surplus as of May 24 of £23 million which offset operating losses of £14 million. It’s pure conjecture after that
 

TomRad85

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  • Yesterday at 10:44 AM
  • #478
I'm pretty sure the Hamer/Gyokeres original fees were well used up by the time last summer came around, especially after the EMC signing and Robins was still given a decent chunk of change to play with. You'd have to assume Lampard will be afforded the same opportunity.
 
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Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 10:53 AM
  • #479
TomRad85 said:
I'm pretty sure the Hamer/Gyokeres original fees were well used up by the time last summer came around, especially after the EMC signing and Robins was still given a decent chunk of change to play with. You'd have to assume Lampard will be afforded the same opportunity.
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Id always assumed Mason Clarke was in the published accounts as one of the signing fees to be honest
 

Robinshio

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  • Yesterday at 10:54 AM
  • #480
Flying Fokker said:
The thought of funding a 7m loss every year would be shit
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it is a bit of a risk/investment

You could argue, that the value of the club is at least £20m more than it was when Doug acquired it
As such, if he sold tomorrow, he would not be down at all and is probably why he put the £15m in to the club

If we did get promoted, he would be very much in profit, and must still be the target, which he is continuing to find - hence bringing in FL
 

prufrock

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  • Yesterday at 10:58 AM
  • #481
stupot07 said:
It's not just about transfer fees but increasing wage bills. We know in the past that add ons and windfalls have been built into funding operating costs. Additionally, we will be paying out additional ons etc for the signings we've made.
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Yes exactly. The average wage has surely gone up last couple of years. Replacing a player who was on say £10k per week with one on £20k will cost about £1.5m more over a 3 year contract. I can imagine Grimes being on £20k+ replacing someone like Kelly being on £10k or less. That can take a decent chunk out of money received on transfer fees.
 
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Lamps

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  • Yesterday at 11:00 AM
  • #482
Grendel said:
How am I creating an argument.

No transfer fees are made public anyway. All anyone knows is a transfer surplus as of May 24 of £23 million which offset operating losses of £14 million. It’s pure conjecture after that
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Grendel said:
Id always assumed Mason Clarke was in the published accounts as one of the signing fees to be honest
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Make your mind up.
 

larry_david

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  • Yesterday at 11:16 AM
  • #483
Hincha said:
Approaching 500 posts and not one credible link

Never change SBT
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Gimoc is the definition of credible!!
 
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Domo

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  • Yesterday at 11:29 AM
  • #484
so....is he signing or what?
 

Lamps

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  • Yesterday at 11:36 AM
  • #485
Domo said:
so....is he signing or what?
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Of course he is signing. We just don't know which club for yet.
 
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Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 11:37 AM
  • #486
Lamps said:
Make your mind up.
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? the two comments are unrelated
 

Lamps

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  • Yesterday at 11:45 AM
  • #487
Grendel said:
? the two comments are unrelated
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Unrelated but contradict each other. That's how you normally trip yourself up constantly.

You say no transfer fees are made public.

KKH £3.5m
Grimes £3.5m
Binks £2.5m
Hamer £15m
Gyokeres we even got updates on % change as well as amounts.

You have a slight one with Simms. £3.5m but we didn't know which add ons were worth how much.

So which ones were not made public?
 
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skybluegod

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  • Yesterday at 12:21 PM
  • #488
Lamps said:
Unrelated but contradict each other. That's how you normally trip yourself up constantly.

You say no transfer fees are made public.

KKH £3.5m
Grimes £3.5m
Binks £2.5m
Hamer £15m
Gyokeres we even got updates on % change as well as amounts.

You have a slight one with Simms. £3.5m but we didn't know which add ons were worth how much.

So which ones were not made public?
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They haven't been made public officially, these are fees that have been 'reported' but never made official. They are likely to be fairly accurate of course but we never know the make up of those fees especially (i.e. what is guaranteed and what is add ons).
 

Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 12:23 PM
  • #489
Lamps said:
Unrelated but contradict each other. That's how you normally trip yourself up constantly.

You say no transfer fees are made public.

KKH £3.5m
Grimes £3.5m
Binks £2.5m
Hamer £15m
Gyokeres we even got updates on % change as well as amounts.

You have a slight one with Simms. £3.5m but we didn't know which add ons were worth how much.

So which ones were not made public?
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None are made public in terms of fees paid and EMC was paid in the published financial year when you look at the accounts
 

Jamesimus

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  • Yesterday at 12:24 PM
  • #490
stgeorge1966 said:
Callum Doyle is not coming to us END OF
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Can’t you and GIMOC at least have some kind of consensus!
 
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