Astute
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Know the feeling. Was on nights last night. Back in again tonight. And worse of all it is my birthday :shifty:
Know the feeling. Was on nights last night. Back in again tonight. And worse of all it is my birthday :shifty:I'll have a proper read through later on at work. I'm doing the classic night shift, 'trying to sleep in the day and instantly being wide awake for no reason', routine at the moment.
But then you would offset those costs against what we pay in rent wouldn't you? How much are other teams paying annually on maintenance.
The only one I'm aware of is Pompey having to pay out £400K when the trust took over but that's a 120 year old stadium that didn't have any maintenance done for years.
If the model we currently have is a good one then it raises the question of why are we the only club doing it?
Know the feeling. Was on nights last night. Back in again tonight. And worse of all it is my birthday :shifty:
Would be no different to now would it. Wasps own it and ACL operate the stadium and associated facilities.
AEG would be ideal, they're the worlds largest operator of sports stadiums and the worlds second largest operator of live music and events.
Having a couple of Peroni's before a quick sleep. We have a rule at work on your birthday. You supply the cakes they do the work :smuggrin:Have a happy birthday all the same
A share of Stadium naming rights and more bums on seats would achieve that CVD, but given the last three seasons there's no guarantee we'd go to the ceiling anyway.I'll leave it for the likes of yourself and OSB58 who are more informed than me to decide whether it's a good model or not CD.
But the question I would ask is within the current model could we and should we be generating a bigger playing budget than we are?
That could be your upcoming nuptials hill83.I'll have a proper read through later on at work. I'm doing the classic night shift, 'trying to sleep in the day and instantly being wide awake for no reason', routine at the moment.
That could be your upcoming nuptials hill83.
How was the stag?
both disclosures are entirely legal and meet the rules. Its just that Scunthorpe choose to give greater detail and CCFC do not.
No player sales are in addition to that
Add in the player sales and the Fisher argument of being at such a disadvantage makes even less sense
The original posting was to illustrate that we do indeed receive income other than match day ticket income :banghead:
I think it is safe to safe that is the case isn't it!
We have less income but we also have less outgoings. We don't have to pay for the upkeep of a stadium. And that isn't cheap. But strangely enough Fisher never mentions that.
If we had our own stadium the upkeep would have to come from income. And as we are now having to pay our own way it could even reduce funds for the squad.
Happy Birthday and many happy returns!Know the feeling. Was on nights last night. Back in again tonight. And worse of all it is my birthday :shifty:
think comparisons are tricky at times - eg some clubs include player trading as turnover others (CCFC) don't
I would have more sympathy with the Fisher if there was some evidence of the CCFC trying to develop other income sources, thinking outside the box or simply creating partnerships to create income
instead it seems to be a bitter and twisted it should be ours and its not fair
How do we know that other clubs do not have circumstances resulting in opportunity losses?
Fisher wanted to outsource the whole lot didn't he if SISU took control of the Ricoh. To AEG if I remember correctly. What would that have left for the club? Also why AEG? Is there a conection there with SISU?
If I was running the show I advice SISU that you have to speculate to accumulate. There is no better time to do it than division4 where the investment would not need to be extortionate.
I would convince them that under Robins we have a genuine chance. I would convince them to give Robins a top 2 budget. I would convince them that we need to earn the fans trust.
I would device a scheme where you agree to buy a season ticket for £300. You pay £100 upfront. At the halfway point of the season. If we are not within 9 points of the playoffs you can walk away if you choose however if we are within 9 points you are automatically charged the £200
It's shows firstly SISU are prepared to give us s top two budget and do want success.
It shows they have confidence that we will achieve it.
It's an incentive and a thank you to the loyal fans who no longer believe and are about to walk away.
For SISU you are speculating to accumulate, of course there is a gamble. However under the current plan the drop in ticket sales will result in us been very lucky if we can challenge.
Mental. Far too much sambuca. Still not right after 4 days. Dressed up like a plonker for the majority of it and the best man had to leave a day early as his 36 weeks pregnant wife was in a car crash. Everyone is fine though.
Isn't it good to get info like this to as wide an audience as possible? I am glad he is retweeting it as other media outlets might pick it up. Purely on the basis that Fisher won't like people reading this makes it a good move. Why criticise someone who is getting the truth out there for everyone to see?Copy and pasting someone elses work is his MO
AgainWorth noting that Scunthorpe are moving to a new stadium to generate more non match day revenue, of course.
One of the things that struck me at the Trust meeting with Fisher was how he suggested, when questionned on communication with fans being poor, that Mark Robins would be speaking to us more! Way to deliberately miss the point! He's the football team manager, it's all the off the field things that we want to know about, from someone like our... chairman!Some good ideas Dongonzalos and "thinking out of the box"
The first thing on my list if I was SISU would be to sack Fisher and then start the long process of regaining the fans (customers) trust
Then speculate to accumulate as you suggest.. With proper business communication and accumen all the investment would be self funding.
Design: Scunthorpe United Stadium – StadiumDB.com
Scunthorpe United given FULL planning permission to build stunning new stadium at heart of Lincolnshire Lakes project
Gives an indication for cost of BPA perhaps. Lead times started December 2013
Design: Scunthorpe United Stadium – StadiumDB.com
Scunthorpe United given FULL planning permission to build stunning new stadium at heart of Lincolnshire Lakes project
Gives an indication for cost of BPA perhaps. Lead times started December 2013
That's strange really, Glandford Park is a 'new stadium' itself. Nice design.
Uncompetitive at which level and by what measure?Yes it's impossible. Some revenues include sales and others don't. The one I quoted (Walsall) does have the exceptional ground billboard values and its 200 stall market hire. So all positions are unique.
At the moment though the club is benefitting from an exceptional rental arrangement which will not be offered again. If a normal commercial rent is applied and we remain we then become very uncompetitive.
Glad to hear that.Mental. Far too much sambuca. Still not right after 4 days. Dressed up like a plonker for the majority of it and the best man had to leave a day early as his 36 weeks pregnant wife was in a car crash. Everyone is fine though.
Margin should generally run 25-35% for stadium catering. However if you also factor in that our prices are the highest in the league (according to the BBC's price of football survey) then it is reasonable to suggest the margin should be higher.
But even if it isn't you'd be looking at £360K compare to £70K, a not insignificant amount at this level. And of course if we were successful and attendances increased that number would rise.
Clearly you do struggle as I can't recall expressing outrage at the price of football survey.I thought you were outraged by that article and it's misrepresentation and that it wasn't us as the highest or if we are the highest it's only by pennies and not significant.
I do struggle to keep up sometimes I take it we can now use that survey to say it is one of the highest?
Novel.
Or on promotion we all commit to throw in an extra hundred.
Clearly you do struggle as I can't recall expressing outrage at the price of football survey.
Our crowds are more than decent for this level.I'll leave it for the likes of yourself and OSB58 who are more informed than me to decide whether it's a good model or not CD.
But the question I would ask is within the current model could we and should we be generating a bigger playing budget than we are?
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