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Saddlebrains

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #106
covcity4life said:
I've read no knife was found and that's why they were not arrested on the spot
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'Knife was later recovered from a bin' thats why
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #107
Saddlebrains said:
'Knife was later recovered from a bin' thats why
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Read all my post?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #108
So again.

Disgrace of a man makes a video
Dickheads with a knife turn up looking for him
Dickheads get chased by city fans who had otherwise been peaceful in the majority. How many of the fans even knew about the other guy's video?

Theres no point trying to start some black lives matter beef when they are saying all city fans are racist. No city fans seem to be defending that c**t for making the video at all, people turning up with a knife shouldn't be defended either.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #109
Nick said:
Investigation launched after Coventry city centre disorder | News | West Midlands Police

Police recovered a knife.

Hopefully the person who posted the video about the BLM banners will be charged and banned from CCFC.
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Not enough evidence yet for me to say what really happened, though I see many people on here made up their minds even before this statement came out.

Agree 100% on the guy who filmed himself being a racist moron.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #110
SBT said:
Not enough evidence yet for me to say what really happened, though I see many people on here made up their minds even before this statement came out.

Agree 100% on the guy who filmed himself being a racist moron.
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You probably won't be happy until there's a headline in the Telegraph saying "racist Coventry city fans chase black men for no reason" though to be fair.

There's literally people in the video screaming "he's got a blade" and "he's got a knife". Let's not make this a race thing, leave that to the prick who filmed himself who will be dealt with.
 
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cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #111
The bloke who made the video is called Simon James apparently and runs the standard bear pub I believe he got a hiding also last night after his antics
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #112
Nick said:
You probably won't be happy until there's a headline in the Telegraph saying "racist Coventry city fans chase black men for no reason" though to be fair.

There's literally people in the video screaming "he's got a blade" and "he's got a knife". Let's not make this a race thing, leave that to the prick who filmed himself who will be dealt with.
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I haven't mentioned race once, but clearly it's on your mind. Now you mention it, maybe that's why you see a video of two black guys getting chased by a crowd of white kids throwing bottles and immediately assume they're "dickheads". Personally I prefer to wait for the evidence before I confirm or deny my prejudices, but if you're happy to base your opinions from what you overheard a couple of guys saying on Twitter, then I doubt much will change your mind. Sounds like you jump to conclusions pretty easily.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #113
Guys settle down we just won the league. We have no facts one way or the other. Lets forget it and move on.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #114
SBT said:
I haven't mentioned race once, but clearly it's on your mind. Now you mention it, maybe that's why you see a video of two black guys getting chased by a crowd of white kids throwing bottles and immediately assume they're "dickheads". Personally I prefer to wait for the evidence before I confirm or deny my prejudices, but if you're happy to base your opinions from what you overheard a couple of guys saying on Twitter, then I doubt much will change your mind. Sounds like you jump to conclusions pretty easily.
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I think this kind of gives it away

Dickheads with a knife
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That would apply if they were white, black or anything else. Anybody carrying a knife is a dickhead.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #115
Weird, the telegraph write an article saying about city fans chasing 2 lads with half of the statement from the police.

They have strangely left this bit out:

Both men were searched and escorted away from the scene. A knife was later recovered from a bin and CCTV enquiries will be progressed today.
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Probably why SBT is on here being a prick.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #116
Nick said:
I think this kind of gives it away



That would apply if they were white, black or anything else. Anybody carrying a knife is a dickhead.
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I'm repeating myself, but we don't yet know if they had a knife. The police have clearly been careful not to say that yet. Again, it may not stop people from assuming it anyway - some folk just like to assume stuff about certain kinds of people.

Maybe they'll be right in the end, but it's uncomfortable to think about those kinds of assumptions isn't it?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #117
SBT said:
I'm repeating myself, but we don't yet know if they had a knife. The police have clearly been careful not to say that yet. Again, it may not stop people from assuming it anyway - some folk just like to assume stuff about certain kinds of people.

Maybe they'll be right in the end, but it's uncomfortable to think about those kinds of assumptions isn't it?
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Not uncomfortable in the slightest, the same as it isn't uncomfortable to say the bloke who made the video is an utter scumbag.
 

eastwoodsdustman

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #118
People saw the bloke with a knife going to a celebration where some young families were also present. THAT makes me uncomfortable.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #119
eastwoodsdustman said:
People saw the bloke with a knife going to a celebration where some young families were also present. THAT makes me uncomfortable.
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Exactly.

Still, SBT has an issue with people questioning the telegraph and they want to paint a certain picture it seems.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #120
Nick said:
Not uncomfortable in the slightest, the same as it isn't uncomfortable to say the bloke who made the video is an utter scumbag.
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You're saying the quiet part loud - the fact that you're just as comfortable coming to your two conclusions about the people involved shows that it's not hard evidence you're interested in. Can't say I'm surprised, but I didn't think you'd just come out and admit it!

Anyway, I'm sure you'll be celebrating if it turns out those two guys did fit the stereotype! Keep complaining to the CET in the meantime (sorry, I still don't work for them)
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #121
SBT said:
I'm repeating myself, but we don't yet know if they had a knife. The police have clearly been careful not to say that yet. Again, it may not stop people from assuming it anyway - some folk just like to assume stuff about certain kinds of people.

Maybe they'll be right in the end, but it's uncomfortable to think about those kinds of assumptions isn't it?
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Without wanting to get dragged into this, it makes me equally uncomfortable to assume or believe a group of 30 Coventry fans would unprovokedly attack two unarmed defenceless Black men for no reason.

From my observations of the video the only one who gets any real credit is the guy who was trying to calm it down and de-escalte the situation as he has put himself between an angry mob and two men potentially/allegedly carrying weapons.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #122
SBT said:
You're saying the quiet part loud - the fact that you're just as comfortable coming to your two conclusions about the people involved shows that it's not hard evidence you're interested in. Can't say I'm surprised, but I didn't think you'd just come out and admit it!

Anyway, I'm sure you'll be celebrating if it turns out those two guys did fit the stereotype! Keep complaining to the CET in the meantime (sorry, I still don't work for them)
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The fact you want to try and make out that it is concluded just based on skin colour is where you seem to be struggling.

I have never said you work for the Telegraph either, just that we got promoted yesterday and you didn't seem to comment on that but straight in on this thread. Bit strange really, nice way to try and discredit though when somebody points out things about the Telegraph.
 
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SBT

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #123
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Without wanting to get dragged into this, it makes me equally uncomfortable to assume or believe a group of 30 Coventry fans would unprovokedly attack two unarmed defenceless Black men for no reason.

From my observations of the video the only one who gets any real credit is the guy who was trying to calm it down and de-escalte the situation as he has put himself between an angry mob and two men potentially/allegedly carrying weapons.
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Agree with you entirely! Truth be told there isn't much difference on this thread between me and the people calling me a prick and floating conspiracy theories about me being a CET plant (maybe I should complain to the mods). I just think it's wise to be skeptical and wait for the evidence before I jump to conclusions that buy into seriously dodgy stereotypes. So I'm assuming nothing.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #124
cc84cov said:
The bloke who made the video is called Simon James apparently and runs the standard bear pub I believe he got a hiding also last night after his antics
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Is a video of him after a beating but appare fly its old

Pics of him with tommy and Katie Hopkins lol
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #125
SBT said:
Agree with you entirely! Truth be told there isn't much difference on this thread between me and the people calling me a prick and floating conspiracy theories about me being a CET plant (maybe I should complain to the mods). I just think it's wise to be skeptical and wait for the evidence before I jump to conclusions that buy into seriously dodgy stereotypes. So I'm assuming nothing.
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I am just pointing out that you only appear when somebody mentions the Telegraph and didn't bother with any of the posts about being crowned champions yesterday.

That's just fact.
 

jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #126
Nick said:
I am just pointing out that you only appear when somebody mentions the Telegraph and didn't bother with any of the posts about being crowned champions yesterday.

That's just fact.
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Apparently the real issue with telegraphs story it doesn't mention race.
 

Joy Division

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #127
The guys facebook page is full of racist posts. CCFC need to identify and be clear they are to impose a lifetime ban.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #128
Nick said:
The fact you want to try and make out that it is concluded just based on skin colour is where you seem to be struggling.

I have never said you work for the Telegraph either, just that we got promoted yesterday and you didn't seem to comment on that but straight in on this thread. Bit strange really, nice way to try and discredit though when somebody points out things about the Telegraph.
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You suggested I work for the CET as recently as last month fwiw (I went back and checked, because clearly you have!) I've no idea why you're so fascinated with me, considering I don't post much, and I've never wanted my own reply guy. Instead you're choosing to insult me and bang on about race and the CET before I even bought up either one in this thread. You do you, pal.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #129
I haven't seen the poster video. Where is that one?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #130
SBT said:
You suggested I work for the CET as recently as last month fwiw (I went back and checked, because clearly you have!) I've no idea why you're so fascinated with me, considering I don't post much, and I've never wanted my own reply guy. Instead you're choosing to insult me and bang on about race and the CET before I even bought up either one in this thread. You do you, pal.
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I just point out facts that you only appear to defend the Telegraph when you post on here.

It's a CCFC forum, you probably fail to notice that.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #131
Otis said:
I haven't seen the poster video. Where is that one?
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I haven't got the link, it's a bloke looking at the BLM posters saying "Look at this fucking shite" and mocking it.
 
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jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #132
Did anyone see anything like what this person is suggesting ?

 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #133
SBT said:
Agree with you entirely! Truth be told there isn't much difference on this thread between me and the people calling me a prick and floating conspiracy theories about me being a CET plant (maybe I should complain to the mods). I just think it's wise to be skeptical and wait for the evidence before I jump to conclusions that buy into seriously dodgy stereotypes. So I'm assuming nothing.
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You seem to be avoiding commenting on the fact the article omits a significant element of the police statement
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #134
jordan210 said:
Did anyone see anything like what this person is suggesting ?

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There's also people posting a video and claiming that racist language has been used in it but when you watch it, there isn't any.

When there is and where there is (The prick in the other video) then call it out.
 

Maverick

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #135
https://www.facebook.com/
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #136
Grendel said:
You seem to be avoiding commenting on the fact the article omits a significant element of the police statement
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They have updated it now, it was just their "slow servers" stopping them.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #137
Nick said:
I just point out facts that you only appear to defend the Telegraph when you post on here.

It's a CCFC forum, you probably fail to notice that.
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In the interests of drawing a line under this, I've posted all of 40 times in three years, and most of those are about CCFC. The times I get sidetracked into CET arguments are because you reply religiously to every single one of my posts looking for a debate! Seems funny that you would obsessively reply to me and then complain when I respond (I honestly didn't know you cared!) But in all seriousness, if it bores you, you can just.....not reply. I know I won't.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #138
We all know that unfortunately there’s some racist idiots among our ‘fans’. The first chap seems to fit the bill perfectly and it will surprise nobody that he associates with Tommy Robinson. Seems he’s been identified and reported to the club, police and his employer so not much more you can expect there.

As for the other video people who were there said the chap being chased had a knife and the police statement says a knife was recovered, you can draw your own conclusions. Personally I’m struggling to believe at a celebration a mob of our fans randomly decided to attack people based on race with nobody doing anything to stop it. As I said we’ve got some idiots but that seems unlikely.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #139
Grendel said:
You seem to be avoiding commenting on the fact the article omits a significant element of the police statement
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Which element of the police statement is the article missing?
 

Joy Division

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #140
Otis said:
I haven't seen the poster video. Where is that one?
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