Bright and Robins (3 Viewers)

SkyBlueGuy · Sep 2, 2021

shmmeee said:
Low risk high reward really.

Does feel a little like we relied on him as cover for O’Hare though which seems like poor squad planning as it was always likely he’d do this.

I'd say we have a couple who can play there now. Obviously Allen has shown he can actually perform at this level now, which is a real bonus (as I know a lot of us had almost written him off). But we also have the possibility of Waghorn, Jones, Shipley (although I'm not convinced he's good enough) and even Hamer, who I think might actually do quite well there.

Given that O'Hare is one of the first name on the team sheet, it would be tricky to have a genuine quality replacement, as they'd spend a lot of time on the bench (unless he gets injured, but let's hope that doesn't happen!)

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee · Sep 2, 2021

better days said:
Think Bright is still around and training with the group intermittently
Doubt he will be involved in the U23 game tonight which I believe will be mostly younger players

Is the 'intermittently' because he's been told he can stay and train to keep fit but has been effectively fired or is it because he's injured and is still in our 'future plans' so to speak?

better days · Sep 2, 2021

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
Is the 'intermittently' because he's been told he can stay and train to keep fit but has been effectively fired or is it because he's injured and is still in our 'future plans' so to speak?

I really don't know
Another contributor implied that Bright had been given his marching orders
But I had only heard there was a meeting and hadn't heard the outcome
Maybe the lad will sort himself out and become a model professional

junglej13 · Sep 2, 2021

If Robins was any type of manager he should get Bright in the spare room like Strachan did with Whelan.

SlowerThanPlatt · Sep 2, 2021

junglej13 said:
If Robins was any type of manager he should get Bright in the spare room like Strachan did with Whelan.

Whelan had value on the pitch - this guy has zero and a shit load of trouble off it

fernandopartridge · Sep 2, 2021

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Whelan had value on the pitch - this guy has zero and a shit load of trouble of it

Yes, there was never any issue with Whelan's footballing commitment either.

mark82 · Sep 2, 2021

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Whelan had value on the pitch - this guy has zero and a shit load of trouble off it

Bright has talent, I'm just not sure he wants it. Considering he approached us and he had to convince MR that he'd changed his ways it'd be very disappointing if he'd reverted to type so soon. Just hope that the contract was structured in a way that makes it easy for us to get out of if that's what the management team deem the best course of action.

Grendel · Sep 2, 2021

mark82 said:
Bright has talent, I'm just not sure he wants it. Considering he approached us and he had to convince MR that he'd changed his ways it'd be very disappointing if he'd reverted to type so soon. Just hope that the contract was structured in a way that makes it easy for us to get out of if that's what the management team deem the best course of action.

He has no proven talent at this level - its just smoke and mirrors

Deleted member 5849 · Sep 2, 2021

mark82 said:
and he had to convince MR that he'd changed his ways

Given he's one of the few who's managed that in Robins' time at the club, there's a job for him as a master salesman if it all goes wrong with his football career!

mark82 · Sep 2, 2021

Grendel said:
He has no proven talent at this level - its just smoke and mirrors

You're right, he's not proven at this level. I've no doubt if he applied himself he could play at this level at least. The problem is he clearly doesn't apply himself.

chiefdave · Sep 2, 2021

You'd hope that the contact was stacked in our favour and appearance based so if he decides to not turn up or not put in the effort we aren't paying him much and can easily get rid.

Obviously we don't know what is going on behind the scenes but it seems he missed a pre-season game as he turned up late and now doesn't even feature in the U23s and only trains intermittently. Doesn't look good. The only real comment we've had from Robins is 'personal issue' which could be anything from he can't be bothered to a genuine issue that he needs time and / or assistance to resolve.

Even if, by some miracle, he does eventually appear in the first team some people are expecting far too much. He was decent for half a season in L1 and has barely played since.

cc84cov · Sep 2, 2021

better days said:
Think Bright is still around and training with the group intermittently
Doubt he will be involved in the U23 game tonight which I believe will be mostly younger players

So he hasn’t had his contract cancelled then

cc84cov · Sep 2, 2021

usskyblue said:
You’ve heard it from the SBT Illuminati, exactly how official do you want it m8 ?

The player is still training with the group ?

better days · Sep 2, 2021

cc84cov said:
So he hasn’t had his contract cancelled then

Not on the face of it but skybluebeliever may have more info

COV · Sep 2, 2021

Dickie said:
I feel a bit clueless here - I’ve caught up on the thread and I’m no clearer. What’s Bright supposed to have done?

I know- this reads like an obituary to his career, people demanding apologies (?), but I can't see what has actually happened, and yet apparently he's still training with us?

What is actually going on?

better days · Sep 2, 2021

COV said:
I know- this reads like an obituary to his career, people demanding apologies (?), but I can't see what has actually happened, and yet apparently he's still training with us?

What is actually going on?

Quite a lot of stuff in earlier threads

cc84cov · Sep 2, 2021

better days said:
Not on the face of it but skybluebeliever may have more info

A player who’s contract is terminated for what he’s supposedly been upto isn’t gonna be training with the team surly

clint van damme · Sep 2, 2021

Dickie said:
I feel a bit clueless here - I’ve caught up on the thread and I’m no clearer. What’s Bright supposed to have done?

Nothing mate, leave him alone.

SlowerThanPlatt · Sep 2, 2021

cc84cov said:
A player who’s contract is terminated for what he’s supposedly been upto isn’t gonna be training with the team surly

Clinging onto your final hope

shmmeee · Sep 2, 2021

SkyBlueGuy said:
I'd say we have a couple who can play there now. Obviously Allen has shown he can actually perform at this level now, which is a real bonus (as I know a lot of us had almost written him off). But we also have the possibility of Waghorn, Jones, Shipley (although I'm not convinced he's good enough) and even Hamer, who I think might actually do quite well there.

Given that O'Hare is one of the first name on the team sheet, it would be tricky to have a genuine quality replacement, as they'd spend a lot of time on the bench (unless he gets injured, but let's hope that doesn't happen!)

None of those unlock defences like O’Hare and Bright have the potential to do. Need a bit of magic IMO.

SkyBlueGuy · Sep 2, 2021

shmmeee said:
None of those unlock defences like O’Hare and Bright have the potential to do. Need a bit of magic IMO.

Agreed, but would we have got someone like that (aside from bright obviously) who A) we could afford and B) would be happy sitting on the bench most weeks?

Deleted member 9744 · Sep 2, 2021

Grendel said:
He has no proven talent at this level - its just smoke and mirrors

We've been here before. He played 41 times for Wolves in the Championship.

Liquid Gold · Sep 2, 2021

Is it still disgusting to speculate about him and his behaviour now that he's supposedly had a meeting about it with MR?

Deleted member 5849 · Sep 2, 2021

Liquid Gold said:
Is it still disgusting to speculate about him and his behaviour now that he's supposedly had a meeting about it with MR?

I suppose tbf you've still added the 'supposedly' in there!

tbh if a couple of the 'sources' didn't come with a prior track record I'd be a lot more disposed to giving the benefit of the doubt, too. It's clear however that 'something' has happened, it's just to what level that 'something' has been really.

Liquid Gold · Sep 2, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
I suppose tbf you've still added the 'supposedly' in there!

tbh if a couple of the 'sources' didn't come with a prior track record I'd be a lot more disposed to giving the benefit of the doubt, too. It's clear however that 'something' has happened, it's just to what level that 'something' has been really.

clearly ITK sources have indicated something had happened with a player that has well documented attitude problems but sanctimonious pricks were still trying shutting down any talk of it

I don't want to hear any of this "hoping for him to fail" bullshit either. I want all of our players to succeed but I'm pissed off that someone would take the piss out of my football club like that.

clint van damme · Sep 2, 2021

Deleted member 9744 said:
We've been here before. He played 41 times for Wolves in the Championship.

And got 1 goal and 1 assist

Sick Boy · Sep 2, 2021

Liquid Gold said:
clearly ITK sources have indicated something had happened with a player that has well documented attitude problems but sanctimonious pricks were still trying shutting down any talk of it

I don't want to hear any of this "hoping for him to fail" bullshit either. I want all of our players to succeed but I'm pissed off that someone would take the piss out of my football club like that.

The best bit is that they are all too happy to dish out abuse but then get majorly upset when they're on the receiving end.

Evo1883 · Sep 2, 2021

lacesoutdom said:
course, but 6 goals in L1, hes not played at a higher level than that for what, 2-3 years? hes never going to walk into leading the line here is he. im verrrry happy to be proven wrong tho.

6 goals in 18 games is it ? From attacking midfield that's bloody good

Deleted member 5849 · Sep 2, 2021

Liquid Gold said:
clearly ITK sources have indicated something had happened with a player that has well documented attitude problems but sanctimonious pricks were still trying shutting down any talk of it

I can see how it possibly goes a bit far with the death of a dad / brother in that even wideboy chancers can have family berievements, and that's a pretty big thing to get wrong if it turns out he was genuinely mourning a family relative.

As I said earlier in that thread though, there was often a cull of grandmothers around coursework deadline time! You still had to treat each case as true until proven otherwise (a few deadlines down the line, when they died again, usually) just in case...

Deleted member 5849 · Sep 2, 2021

Anyway, personally I reckon that what he probably needs / needed is a season or two at somewhere like Solihull Moors. That'd either allow him to decide he was happy coasting and just relying on his natural ability to pick up pin money, or it'd shake him up to trying harder to get back to where he arguably should be.

Liquid Gold · Sep 2, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
Anyway, personally I reckon that what he probably needs / needed is a season or two at somewhere like Solihull Moors. That'd either allow him to decide he was happy coasting and just relying on his natural ability to pick up pin money, or it'd shake him up to trying harder to get back to where he arguably should be.

I say he needs to be given a contract with a clause that states he has to live with his mum or something.

Evo1883 · Sep 2, 2021

Skybluebeliever said:
I think MR has had a look and seen enough and unfortunately bright moving on and his contract being terminated

So basically , will be working a normal job soon enough ..

Imagine fucking a gift-wrapped career like that

lord_garrincha · Sep 2, 2021

Evo1883 said:
So basically , will be working a normal job soon enough ..

Imagine fucking a gift-wrapped career like that

Not the first... and certainly not the last!

Evo1883 · Sep 2, 2021

We'd look like right mugs if there's no get out clause in that contract of his

Deleted member 5849 · Sep 2, 2021

Liquid Gold said:
I say he needs to be given a contract with a clause that states he has to live with his mum or something.

Maybe she goes out on the lash with him!

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