Ccfcisparks
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I think he's a really good player
I think he's a really good playerHackney is a bit overrated
Thought they played good football , its only because we are so well drilled that we won that , you can see why they do well
It's not a back-handed compliment at all "about your style" as your style for the first half of the season was very different.
It's just finding different ways to play, which you needed to do and did so.
They are deluding themselves into thinking they have the best defence in the league?Please re read your last post. To summarise you implied we beat you because of hoodoo. You have the best defence and midfield in the league and no strikers….Fair play for being complementary about our goal keeper though
For the so called best championship team there’s ever been you looked bang average last night. You move the ball around nice though, I’ll give you that.
He's undoubtedly good but I don't see his ceiling as high as a couple who recently played in Champ. Firstly, Alex Scott... and nowhere near Wharton.Hackney is a bit overrated
It's not taking anything away from you though. Hoodoos can be maintained by a variety of reasons, one team overperforms, the other underperforms, various injuries, the ref, the bounce of the ball, etc etc. It is only when they go on for a period of time beyond the normal boundaries of coincidence that they become so. I know superstition tends to get little notice in this day and age and with most examples of it I'd agree with you...But this is a little different.Right! The notion that the hoodoo played a factor in us winning is not giving us our dues.
Lampard out thought Hellberg and our players out played theirs. I'm not sure why its hard to say that.
Part of me thought it was tongue in cheek to start with but the fact its mentioned in every post suggests not.
It's not a back-handed compliment at all "about your style" as your style for the first half of the season was very different.
It's just finding different ways to play, which you needed to do and did so.
Preston have had our number for years way before Robins. The hoodoo factor is something thats fan created and wont even cross the players or managements mind.It's not taking anything away from you though. Hoodoos can be maintained by a variety of reasons, one team overperforms, the other underperforms, various injuries, the ref, the bounce of the ball, etc etc. It is only when they go on for a period of time beyond the normal boundaries of coincidence that they become so. I know superstition tends to get little notice in this day and age and with most examples of it I'd agree with you...But this is a little different.
I'm not taking anything away from your performance, you developed a game plan and were excellent at sticking to it. It was well thought out and utilised your bigger squad. Clearly you'd done your homework and your players put in the kind of effort you'd been missing the last few months.
In retrospect, we shouldn't have started with Ayling for such a game also. Fry would have been a far better option, bigger, more experienced and whilst not as good a ball player, a better classic defender.
The penalty was just one of those things that happen, not intentional contact IMHO, but by the laws of the game it was a penalty, I wouldn't argue against it.
This individual game was won for the reasons above in the main and by itself would not be considered part of a Hoodoo. But when viewed in a long series.... It's different. In the same way that Preston at home being a physical side who generally had Robins' number I get too. But that hasn't been the way throughout your history, which is where the whole Hoodoo factor comes from. They're also part mental of course, that is undeniable.
Don't forget the 3,000 people watching on ITV 4 who were expecting a rerun of The Chase!Agree.
People moan Lampard has no plan B, well there it was. At tbis stage of the season winning big games more important than entertaining the 500 people watching on Sky!
It's not taking anything away from you though. Hoodoos can be maintained by a variety of reasons, one team overperforms, the other underperforms, various injuries, the ref, the bounce of the ball, etc etc. It is only when they go on for a period of time beyond the normal boundaries of coincidence that they become so. I know superstition tends to get little notice in this day and age and with most examples of it I'd agree with you...But this is a little different.
I'm not taking anything away from your performance, you developed a game plan and were excellent at sticking to it. It was well thought out and utilised your bigger squad. Clearly you'd done your homework and your players put in the kind of effort you'd been missing the last few months.
In retrospect, we shouldn't have started with Ayling for such a game also. Fry would have been a far better option, bigger, more experienced and whilst not as good a ball player, a better classic defender.
The penalty was just one of those things that happen, not intentional contact IMHO, but by the laws of the game it was a penalty, I wouldn't argue against it.
This individual game was won for the reasons above in the main and by itself would not be considered part of a Hoodoo. But when viewed in a long series.... It's different. In the same way that Preston at home being a physical side who generally had Robins' number I get too. But that hasn't been the way throughout your history, which is where the whole Hoodoo factor comes from. They're also part mental of course, that is undeniable.
no way at all the should have scored a couple moreI thought Boro looked a very good outfit, and could/should easily have scored a couple more goals.
we turned up for this one. Now Need to turn up for every game to the end of the season.
Should they have scored a couple more? Struggling to see it. You are over thinking the possession.I thought Boro looked a very good outfit, and could/should easily have scored a couple more goals.
we turned up for this one. Now Need to turn up for every game to the end of the season.
They had the one off the post, but yet so did we.Should they have scored a couple more? Struggling to see it. You are over thinking the possession.
They had 2 clear chances 2nd half when they were through on goal and should have scored. Take your sky blue tinted glasses off.Should they have scored a couple more? Struggling to see it. You are over thinking the possession.
Rushworth was good but he did nothing outstanding. Just a safe pair of hands as we expect from him now.They had the one off the post, but yet so did we.
I can't think of Rushworth making any major saves.
Sorry you are making it up.They had 2 clear chances 2nd half when they were through on goal and should have scored. Take your sky blue tinted glasses off.
Who had them and what minute?They had 2 clear chances 2nd half when they were through on goal and should have scored. Take your sky blue tinted glasses off.
I’ll be watching it back today, so i”ll let you know if you're rightSorry you are making it up.
Which great chances were these? You got into some promising positions but the only great chance you had was your goal.Some balanced views.
The difference between Hellberg and Carrick is the defensive side. Granted last night wasn/t great defensively, on the whole its worlds apart. Ayling has stepped into the middle when both Fry and Jones (Our best defender) got injured. Most teams sit back against us so Ayling's ability on the ball has been very important and Malanda looks a real player. Last night, Fry would have been better than Ayling but i can understand why Hellberg stuck with him, why change anything from a team on a six game winning streak but he will learn from last night.
Our midfield is our strength but i thought you did a great job at shutting down, especially first half. We still had some great chances but poor finishing. I think most Boro fans had hoped for a striker in January. Conway, is excellent in overall play. Last night i dont think he was the same after he took a knock but he is not a clinical finisher and last night was a game where that was needed but goals have not been an issue of late.
Im confident we will bounce back.
Are you talking about the Middlesbrough game?They had 2 clear chances 2nd half when they were through on goal and should have scored. Take your sky blue tinted glasses off.
Rushworth was good but he did nothing outstanding. Just a safe pair of hands as we expect from him now.
Even the Sarmiento one was an excellent shot from distance rather than a "should have scored" moment. They created little clear cut.
I'm not being argumentative for the sake of it, I just really don't recall there being these great chances you speak of. Even the one they got was a bit flukey as it just slapped off Latis face right into the Boro player.I’ll be watching it back today, so i”ll let you know if you're right
They got into positions where they could have created chances sure, but I don't class chances to make chances as chances.They did have chances and towards the end we were allowing them far too many opportunities to get the ball in the box. The one player who struggled I thought was Mason Clarke and bringing Esse on to essentially provide left sided cover seemed a bit odd
Long balls and big lad was clearly thinly veilved disrespect at Lampard and Haji, particularly the big lad comment, that primarily comes with negative implications about the players footballing ability making him sound like some clogger.It's not a back-handed compliment at all "about your style" as your style for the first half of the season was very different.
It's just finding different ways to play, which you needed to do and did so.
The Keeper doing the the "long balls" would last walk into their side.Long balls and big lad was clearly thinly veilved disrespect at Lampard and Haji, particularly the big lad comment, that primarily comes with negative implications about the players footballing ability making him sound like some clogger.
That 'big lad' would walk into your team and be the top goal scorer without getting out of second gear.
No, that's the meaning you're choosing to take from it, there's a difference.Long balls and big lad was clearly thinly veilved disrespect at Lampard and Haji, particularly the big lad comment, that primarily comes with negative implications about the players footballing ability making him sound like some clogger.
That 'big lad' would walk into your team and be the top goal scorer without getting out of second gear.
I’m not seriously saying there’s a genuine ‘hoodoo’ but it stretches back a very long time and crossed lots of different teams and managers. It’s pretty uncanny, but so is Barnsley’s record in Coventry.It isn't. There's clearly some psychology going on there, but in recent years, it's mostly been that they play a brand of physical football that our teams have generally struggled against.
This year, we just let them off the hook, and it was extremely frustrating.
It's really boring that we never win there, but there's nothing supernatural about it.
I never know how serious people are with belief in these things. Our Middlesbrough supporting friend seems fairly convinced; he may just be enjoying how annoyed it makes me, though.I’m not seriously saying there’s a genuine ‘hoodoo’ but it stretches back a very long time and crossed lots of different teams and managers. It’s pretty uncanny, but so is Barnsley’s record in Coventry.
I think most just want to talk with Coventry fans on the Coventry board is all.No, that's the meaning you're choosing to take from it, there's a difference.
Did you play the long ball game last night to bypass the midfield where possible? Yes. Did you utilise the height of some of your players against ours and their physicality? Yes. To deny either would be ridiculous.
It's not your style from earlier in the season, but it's a style you did indeed adopt to win the game, which it did. You may choose to continue with this style to complement your press, depending on the opponent, which is up to Lampard really. If you gain more points from it in the remaining games then you'd be insane not to. I don't see the problem.
You need to enjoy the win more, rather than develop a whole chip on the shoulder and an "Everyone is out to get us and I'll choose to take every comment as a personal insult if I can find a way to interpret it that way" mentality.
That's NOT a Coventry thing, just in case you were thinking, we have a few with that mentality on our board too. Try not to be like them as it's tiring debating with someone who makes you feel your conversation has to walk on eggshells the whole time.
Nowt wrong with him, and at least he comes on here after losing instead of that suspicious Ipswich chap.I think most just want to talk with Coventry fans on the Coventry board is all.
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