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edgy

edgy

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tskezz said:
Thats not what im asking, probably didn't word it correctly.

Those 83 tickets the supporters club from the screenshot is in charge of allocating. Those tickets are presumably from 83 of their members with high points? Are those same members not wanting to use them for Blackburn (given the potential size of the game) do the club still need to allocate them?

So as an example, I have high points if I were to join that supporters club do I still get to chose my ticket for blackburn or is it still allocated to me by the club?

I assumed what normally happens was a club has x members with Sts and just books seats together for those members, and possibly to other members if people arnt going.
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I'm confident that the ticket gets allocated by the supporters club to the correct member. They dont just hand out tickets as you get on the bus, first come first served. Tickets are handed out by Surname on the journey up.

The chaps running the Bedworth & Nuneaton SC are very thorough with the approach and admin around it.

As for it being unpolicable, well yes as with most situations around ticketing. But the SCs have lists of supporters, their supporter numbers and loyalty points. If you don't have the required points, you cannot request a ticket.
 
tskezz

tskezz

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edgy said:
I'm confident that the ticket gets allocated by the supporters club to the correct member. They dont just hand out tickets as you get on the bus, first come first served. Tickets are handed out by Surname on the journey up.

The chaps running the Bedworth & Nuneaton SC are very thorough with the approach and admin around it.

As for it being unpolicable, well yes as with most situations around ticketing. But the SCs have lists of supporters, their supporter numbers and loyalty points. If you don't have the required points, you cannot request a ticket.
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So if thats the caes, as I thought it was. Why are the Rugby Supporters clubs advertising what tickets they have and saying they've had double the demand of requests for the tickets?

If its the peoples names who get the tickets why have a post out saying whats available/ not available. Their post also suggests members of the group (no neccisarrly ST holders) may get tickets and furthermore non members normally may be able to get tickets.

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"this will make my job even harder". Why, why's there even a job if the ticket goes to the person it's due for?

To add, im not having a pop at the SCs. Mates have used my number to get away tickets this season so Im guilty of the same thing. I just find it odd that SC members seem to always be in here / socials sticking up for the clubs saying how this sort of thing doesnt happen then we see posts like this saying the opposite.
 
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edgy

edgy

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tskezz said:
So if thats the caes, as I thought it was. Why are the Rugby Supporters clubs advertising what tickets they have and saying they've had double the demand of requests for the tickets?

If its the peoples names who get the tickets why have a post out saying whats available/ not available. Their post also suggests members of the group (no neccisarrly ST holders) may get tickets and furthermore non members normally may be able to get tickets.

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"this will make my job even harder". Why, why's their even a job if the ticket goes to the person it's due for?

To add, im not having a pop at the SCs. Mates have used my number to get away tickets this season so Im guilty of the same thing. I just find it odd that SC members seem to always be in here / socials sticking up for the clubs saying how this sort of thing doesnt happen then we see posts like this saying the opposite.
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I can't comment on Rugby SC, not a member and don't see any communication.

There is occascion when the SCs are waiting to be given their allocations from the club, that they ask their membership who would be interested in the upcoming game. To guage interest and book coaches, pub/social club stop off etc. They always state when asking this question, that expression of interest does not guarentee a ticket.

It is a definite rule of BNCCFCSC that if you dont have the loyalty points, you cannot get tickets through them. However, they do offer non-members and lower loyalty point holders, "travel only" options.
 
tskezz

tskezz

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edgy said:
I can't comment on Rugby SC, not a member and don't see any communication.

There is occascion when the SCs are waiting to be given their allocations from the club, that they ask their membership who would be interested in the upcoming game. To guage interest and book coaches, pub/social club stop off etc. They always state when asking this question, that expression of interest does not guarentee a ticket.

It is a definite rule of BNCCFCSC that if you dont have the loyalty points, you cannot get tickets through them. However, they do offer non-members and non-loyal point holders travel only options.
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Fair enough. Cheers for the explanation
 
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SkyBlueChris

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paulcalf said:
Where is that news?

Have they released the sale dates for all points bands?
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I think it will be 1300 starting points.

For supporters clubs you need 1000 points and its always the 4th band on the first day to qualify so 1300 10am, 1200 12pm, 1100 2pm and 1000 4pm first day!

And then the next 4 down the next day!
 
Gaz71

Gaz71

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tskezz said:
So if thats the caes, as I thought it was. Why are the Rugby Supporters clubs advertising what tickets they have and saying they've had double the demand of requests for the tickets?

If its the peoples names who get the tickets why have a post out saying whats available/ not available. Their post also suggests members of the group (no neccisarrly ST holders) may get tickets and furthermore non members normally may be able to get tickets.

(re posting this screenshot from above)

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"this will make my job even harder". Why, why's there even a job if the ticket goes to the person it's due for?

To add, im not having a pop at the SCs. Mates have used my number to get away tickets this season so Im guilty of the same thing. I just find it odd that SC members seem to always be in here / socials sticking up for the clubs saying how this sort of thing doesnt happen then we see posts like this saying the opposite.
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I think there’s a bit of misunderstanding here around how the process actually works.

The Supporters Club is given a fixed allocation of tickets along with the required loyalty points, and they then ask their members who meets that criteria if they want to apply. In this case, for Blackburn, there were 197 members with 1000+ points requesting tickets for 83 available — so it’s simply heavily oversubscribed.

When posts mention availability or say it’s “a difficult job,” that’s not because tickets are being handed out randomly — it’s because they have to manage demand that exceeds supply and ensure tickets are allocated fairly among those who qualify.

Any suggestion that tickets are just being given out to anyone isn’t really accurate. The reality is they’re working through a structured list of eligible members, and when numbers don’t match up, it naturally becomes more complicated to organise
 
David O'Day

David O'Day

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Can't see the supporters club tickets being as much of a thing going forward. Loads of really small allocations, the money that supportwers clubs bring not being as important.

Just got a feeling that the points allocation will be higher before you know it.
 
tskezz

tskezz

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Gaz71 said:
I think there’s a bit of misunderstanding here around how the process actually works.

The Supporters Club is given a fixed allocation of tickets along with the required loyalty points, and they then ask their members who meets that criteria if they want to apply. In this case, for Blackburn, there were 197 members with 1000+ points requesting tickets for 83 available — so it’s simply heavily oversubscribed.

When posts mention availability or say it’s “a difficult job,” that’s not because tickets are being handed out randomly — it’s because they have to manage demand that exceeds supply and ensure tickets are allocated fairly among those who qualify.

Any suggestion that tickets are just being given out to anyone isn’t really accurate. The reality is they’re working through a structured list of eligible members, and when numbers don’t match up, it naturally becomes more complicated to organise
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So this goes back to my original question then. If you are a season ticket holder with the required points why would you have to request for a ticket via your club. You already qualify to buy you own!

I thought the supporters club part was just to block book as you are sat together same stand etc?

Or is it the supporters club required loyalty points lower than the normal sale?

It seems crazy to me that if I were in a supporters club I would have to request a ticket I already qualify for. It doesn't add up
 
Gaz71

Gaz71

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tskezz said:
So this goes back to my original question then. If you are a season ticket holder with the required points why would you have to request for a ticket via your club. You already qualify to buy you own!

I thought the supporters club part was just to block book as you are sat together same stand etc?

Or is it the supporters club required loyalty points lower than the normal sale?

It seems crazy to me that if I were in a supporters club I would have to request a ticket I already qualify for. It doesn't add up
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Gaz71

Gaz71

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tskezz said:
So this goes back to my original question then. If you are a season ticket holder with the required points why would you have to request for a ticket via your club. You already qualify to buy you own!

I thought the supporters club part was just to block book as you are sat together same stand etc?

Or is it the supporters club required loyalty points lower than the normal sale?

It seems crazy to me that if I were in a supporters club I would have to request a ticket I already qualify for. It doesn't add up
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The key thing is that going through the Supporters Club isn’t really about whether you qualify for a ticket — it’s more about how the tickets are allocated and the overall experience. Even if you’ve got a season ticket and the required points with the club, applying through the Supporters Club puts you into their own separate allocation rather than the general sale.

So instead of trying your luck against everyone else online, you’re effectively part of a smaller group where they’re distributing a fixed number of tickets. In games like Blackburn, where demand is clearly higher than supply, that still means not everyone is successful, but it’s a more structured process than the usual scramble.

It’s also not just about the ticket itself. Going through the Supporters Club usually means you’re guaranteed to be sat together, and often ties in with coach travel as well. For a lot of people, that’s a big part of the appeal — it turns it into more of a group day out rather than just getting into the ground.

I do get what you’re saying though — it feels odd having to “apply” for something you technically already qualify to buy. But I think the idea is less about access, and more about giving members a better chance of getting a ticket together and with a bit more certainty than the general sale.
 
tskezz

tskezz

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Gaz71 said:
The key thing is that going through the Supporters Club isn’t really about whether you qualify for a ticket — it’s more about how the tickets are allocated and the overall experience. Even if you’ve got a season ticket and the required points with the club, applying through the Supporters Club puts you into their own separate allocation rather than the general sale.

So instead of trying your luck against everyone else online, you’re effectively part of a smaller group where they’re distributing a fixed number of tickets. In games like Blackburn, where demand is clearly higher than supply, that still means not everyone is successful, but it’s a more structured process than the usual scramble.

It’s also not just about the ticket itself. Going through the Supporters Club usually means you’re guaranteed to be sat together, and often ties in with coach travel as well. For a lot of people, that’s a big part of the appeal — it turns it into more of a group day out rather than just getting into the ground.

I do get what you’re saying though — it feels odd having to “apply” for something you technically already qualify to buy. But I think the idea is less about access, and more about giving members a better chance of getting a ticket together and with a bit more certainty than the general sale.
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So say I was in the top bracket for points but my season ticket was part of the supporters clubs pool. Is it possible I could apply and not get a ticket?
 
Gaz71

Gaz71

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tskezz said:
So say I was in the top bracket for points but my season ticket was part of the supporters clubs pool. Is it possible I could apply and not get a ticket?
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I think that’s probably the case. From what I understand, once you meet the initial points requirement, your total points don’t necessarily give you priority within the supporters club allocation — but I’m not 100% certain on that.

Also, it’s not compulsory to apply through the supporters club. Once you’ve submitted your details, you can still buy through the club when tickets are released for the game.
 
tskezz

tskezz

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Gaz71 said:
I think that’s probably the case. From what I understand, once you meet the initial points requirement, your total points don’t necessarily give you priority within the supporters club allocation — but I’m not 100% certain on that.

Also, it’s not compulsory to apply through the supporters club. Once you’ve submitted your details, you can still buy through the club when tickets are released for the game.
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Yeah sounds mad to me but cheers for explaining. I think one the biggest issues with all this is how little information we have on it, it's almost an open secret with the club. I remember them outright denying SCs got tickets at all after the Bournemouth game a few seasons back even though there was posts from the SCs confirming it.
 
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Graham64

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Supporters clubs are told the required points needed in advance and will get a certain amount depending on what the Supporters clubs put into ccfc. If they are oversubscribed our Supporters club does it on a loyalty system which to me seems fair. The remaining members will if they want should be able to purchase as normal
 
K

Kilclines curly mullet

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The simple fact is, if you have been to enough games over the years you will get a ticket.

If you haven’t and you miss out, that’s your fault.

Supporters were here way before the success of recent years.
 
fernandopartridge

fernandopartridge

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Kilclines curly mullet said:
The simple fact is, if you have been to enough games over the years you will get a ticket.

If you haven’t and you miss out, that’s your fault.

Supporters were here way before the success of recent years.
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Not at all, the points system as designed gives most credit for recent seasons. I went to more games in league 1 and league 2 than I have in recent years, I get no credit for that.
 
Flying Fokker

Flying Fokker

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Gaz71 said:
The key thing is that going through the Supporters Club isn’t really about whether you qualify for a ticket — it’s more about how the tickets are allocated and the overall experience. Even if you’ve got a season ticket and the required points with the club, applying through the Supporters Club puts you into their own separate allocation rather than the general sale.

So instead of trying your luck against everyone else online, you’re effectively part of a smaller group where they’re distributing a fixed number of tickets. In games like Blackburn, where demand is clearly higher than supply, that still means not everyone is successful, but it’s a more structured process than the usual scramble.

It’s also not just about the ticket itself. Going through the Supporters Club usually means you’re guaranteed to be sat together, and often ties in with coach travel as well. For a lot of people, that’s a big part of the appeal — it turns it into more of a group day out rather than just getting into the ground.

I do get what you’re saying though — it feels odd having to “apply” for something you technically already qualify to buy. But I think the idea is less about access, and more about giving members a better chance of getting a ticket together and with a bit more certainty than the general sale.
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You’d have to be thick skinned to insist on sitting in ‘Your’ seat. 😀
 
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