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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #71
Grendel said:
So 20% wage rises led to job security ok
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Wages staying still for years led to prosperity ok
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #72
TomRad85 said:
All I'm taking from this is bin men is brum get over 30k. Must live like Kings on that in brum.

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The drivers do
 

TomRad85

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #73
Evo1883 said:
The drivers do
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Are you a driver bud?

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rob9872

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #74
clint van damme said:
Do you think we got the service we were paying for when Matt Hancock was giving multi million pound PPE contracts to the barman of his local?

Because without looking, and I'll apologise if I'm wrong, but I bet you've been more critical of this binman strike than about that daylight robbery.
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So we can only criticise one thing if we criticise everything?

A bit like it's not ok to say Arthur's mum was a scumbag if we've not first said all men are pigs for Sarah Everard.

Bringing an irrelevant argument into it.

I've only been vocal on this as I had only posted an alternative view (a simple opinion if you like) but then the pile on began, some if it personal, so I've responded and reacted.
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #75
TomRad85 said:
Are you a driver bud?

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Yes mate

This is their wage
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #76
rob9872 said:
I don't protest, never have. Not a fan of it tbh.
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I have only done it once ever. But the whole point of strike action is to be inconvenient and is nearly always the very last resort. As a union man myself it’s something I hope never to have to call for, but it’s there for when nothing else has worked.
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #77
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I have only done it once ever. But the whole point of strike action is to be inconvenient and is nearly always the very last resort. As a union man myself it’s something I hope never to have to call for, but it’s there for when nothing else has worked.
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To be clear this is the last resort , its been going on for months
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #78
Evo1883 said:
To be clear this is the last resort , its been going on for months
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Teaching unions despite being called ‘militant’ are the same. That our Scottish friends get 7% more than we do being a big focus at the moment.
 
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Nick

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #79
4.21 is a meal deal and a king size Snickers.

Decent
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #80
Nick said:
4.21 is a meal deal and a king size Snickers.

Decent
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It's 1000 pound a year for nothing really , that's decent
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #81
rob9872 said:
So we can only criticise one thing if we criticise everything?

A bit like it's not ok to say Arthur's mum was a scumbag if we've not first said all men are pigs for Sarah Everard.

Bringing an irrelevant argument into it.

I've only been vocal on this as I had only posted an alternative view (a simple opinion if you like) but then the pile on began, some if it personal, so I've responded and reacted.
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A bit of consistency would be nice.
The police at the Sarah Everard protest and Arthur's parents is a non sequitur.

You mentioned the service taxpayers are getting, I mentioned an exact comparison.
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #82
BTW, I'm also a taxpayer .. I pay for this very service too .

Like the rest of you
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #83
Nick said:
4.21 is a meal deal and a king size Snickers.

Decent
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4 pound 2 1 ooooooo
We’ve got a meal deal
Oooooo
Sandwich and a Boost bar
Oooooo
Never take the bins awaaaaaay
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #84
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Wages staying still for years led to prosperity ok
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Its not the point - wages keeping up with inflation perpetuates inflation which leads to bankruptcy widespread job losses interest rate hikes and crashing property values
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #85
Grendel said:
Its not the point - wages keeping up with inflation perpetuates inflation which leads to bankruptcy widespread job losses interest rate hikes and crashing property values
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Well yes it is as otherwise people’s earnings become increasingly weak in what it affords them. Property has of course surged to farcical extents
 

TomRad85

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #86
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Teaching unions despite being called ‘militant’ are the same. That our Scottish friends get 7% more than we do being a big focus at the moment.
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You should take the plunge and become a private tutor BSB.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #87
TomRad85 said:
You should take the plunge and become a private tutor BSB.

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A big risk that though. The silly thing is that even local private schools don’t pay as well as Scottish state ones and the pension is less secure too.

My best way out is probably to move into exam boards/DfE/Ofqual.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #88
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well yes it is as otherwise people’s earnings become increasingly weak in what it affords them. Property has of course surged to farcical extents
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why do wages need to go up?
 
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Marty

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #89
Aren't the wages low for the bin collectors because you plod around the city at 5 mph all day. You want the wages of a tramper but unwilling to do the work load. My old man was a tanker driver before his retirement. He earn't a decent wage because he drove the length of the country daily with a dangerous load, being away from family for days at a time.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #90
Grendel said:
why do wages need to go up?
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Hahaha
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #91
Marty said:
Aren't the wages low for the bin collectors because you plod around the city at 5 mph all day. You want the wages of a tramper but unwilling to do the work load. My old man was a tanker driver before his retirement. He earn't a decent wage because he drove the length of the country daily with a dangerous load, being away from family for days at a time.
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They earn more an hour plus do more hours .

It's irrelevant to our argument, some trampers take home 1000 plus a week plus , we are not asking to be on trampers wages , or tanker driver wages for that matter .. 95% of tanker driver will be at home every night too btw
 

Marty

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #92
Evo1883 said:
They earn more an hour plus do more hours .

It's irrelevant to our argument, some trampers take home 1000 plus a week plus , we are not asking to be on trampers wages , or tanker driver wages for that matter
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why don't you work for Birmingham City Council then? it's only half hour down the road. I actually hope you get your wage rise btw.
 

rob9872

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #93
Marty said:
why don't you work for Birmingham City Council then? it's only half hour down the road. I actually hope you get your wage rise btw.
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Despite all I've said, I hope they get it too, I just hope it's by negotiation rather than strike.
 

JAM See

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  • Dec 16, 2021
  • #94
I've skimmed this thread so apologies if I'm repeating another poster.

What is wrong with a worker withdrawing their labour in order to improve the lot of their loved one's?
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #95
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #96
clint van damme said:
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There is nothing unlawful about a strike assuming it has gone through and been balloted
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #97
Brighton Sky Blue said:
There is nothing unlawful about a strike assuming it has gone through and been balloted
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How much longer will that stay true for?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #98
Grendel said:
Its not the point - wages keeping up with inflation perpetuates inflation which leads to bankruptcy widespread job losses interest rate hikes and crashing property values
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So the argument you're making is people shouldn't get paid more when prices go up because it'll just make prices go up even more? I assume you've turned down all pay rises in your life as part of your duty to keep inflation down?

I think the argument you're making a case for there is that business owners are greedy, profiteering bastards.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #99
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
How much longer will that stay true for?
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No upcoming laws on it as far as I’m aware. The last set meant that you needed to get 50% plus of all eligible members, instead of a majority of all who chose to vote. So just not voting is counted as ‘no’.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #100
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Hahaha
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I was actually asking a legitimate question? What are the reasons wages would need to rise.
 

JAM See

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #101
Brighton Sky Blue said:
There is nothing unlawful about a strike assuming it has gone through and been balloted
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I'm really uneasy about this whole 'ballot/unlawful' narrative.

I'm not erudite enough to express my views eloquently, but...

...It should be the right of any working person to withdraw their labour as they see fit.

When did withdrawing your labour become a crime?
 
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JAM See

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #102
Grendel said:
I was actually asking a legitimate question? What are the reasons wages would need to rise.
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Consumer price inflation, UK - Office for National Statistics

Price indices, percentage changes and weights for the different measures of consumer price inflation.
www.ons.gov.uk
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #103
JAM See said:

Consumer price inflation, UK - Office for National Statistics

Price indices, percentage changes and weights for the different measures of consumer price inflation.
www.ons.gov.uk
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So what happens when inflation gets back under control do wages go down?
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #104
Grendel said:
So what happens when inflation gets back under control do wages go down?
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Fucking hell!!
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 17, 2021
  • #105
The last time wages matched growing inflation in the uk unemployment soared and inflation continued
 
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