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Transfer Rumour Ben Sheaf (1 Viewer)

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djr8369

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  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #946
covcity4life said:


Ffs we should have secured the permanent move lol
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Crikey. Looks a class above.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #947
fatso said:
Maybe it a loan initially due to financial fair play rules.
We’ve already spent more money than we expected sisu to spend, so a loan for 12 months makes sense.
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We get a good £5m more in basic award & solidarity payment compared to league one (£6.8m Vs approx £1.5m). Makes a big difference. Goes up to about £85m if you make the premier league.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #948
mark82 said:
We get a good £5m more in basic award & solidarity payment compared to league one (£6.8m Vs approx £1.5m). Makes a big difference. Goes up to about £85m if you make the premier league.
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85 mill pffft small change, but it's actually 100 mill minimum then a guaranteed 70 million over 3 years if you're relegated
 
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BigadamL

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  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #949
Evo1883 said:
85 mill pffft small change, but it's actually 100 mill minimum then a guaranteed 70 million over 3 years if you're relegated
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The gap between the top and bottom budgets in the championship is scary
 
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andrew.roberts

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  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #950
Please excuse me if I've missed something but has it actually been confirmed ?

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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #951
andrew.roberts said:
Please excuse me if I've missed something but has it actually been confirmed ?

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Not yet
 
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Porkchophill

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  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #952
Another part of the jigsaw , fits the type of player we need good pedigree . And not having to fork out till next season seems a really good bit of business to me
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #953
Have people forgotten we sold McCallum and got promoted?

There’s definitely been some minor investment, likely spent on wages. I’d guess Walker at around £1m, and Hamer around £1.3m, which is less than we got for McCallum. Maybe loan fees for the three loanees?
 

larry_david

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  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #954
Comfortable on left and right foot. I like that
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #955
shmmeee said:
Have people forgotten we sold McCallum and got promoted?

There’s definitely been some minor investment, likely spent on wages. I’d guess Walker at around £1m, and Hamer around £1.3m, which is less than we got for McCallum. Maybe loan fees for the three loanees?
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We will have received a lot less than a million up front for McCallum
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #956
Grendel said:
We will have received a lot less than a million up front for McCallum
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I know for a fact we got £1.5m
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #957
Grendel said:
We will have received a lot less than a million up front for McCallum
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Perhaps. Perhaps we paid less than I’ve guessed for ours too. How much do you reckon the owners have put in this window?
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #958
Ccfcisparks said:
I know for a fact we got £1.5m
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Didnt the commercial manager of Norwich at the time say it was a lot less than a million upfront?
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covcity4life

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  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #959
Wonder show my h mcallum worth now if he had stayed. 5m?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #960
Grendel said:
Didnt the commercial manager of Norwich at the time say it was a lot less than a million upfront?
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He did if I recall correctly. From what I’ve heard there was around 1.5m upfront with a sell on clause and with not many add ons
 

SleepyGinger

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  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #961
covcity4life said:


Ffs we should have secured the permanent move lol
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Great passing range, quick feet, some wonder strikes and loves a tackle, looks a right player.
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #962
shmmeee said:
Perhaps. Perhaps we paid less than I’ve guessed for ours too. How much do you reckon the owners have put in this window?
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Its impossible to say. We have TV money which is really significant versus last year and also I assume what’s put in is interest bearing loans which will be from the master fund

Remember The last accounts clearly show interest from referrals of over a million was claimed back. It’s hard to believe this strategy has reversed

After all they need to fund £30 million plus for a new ground which I’m sure they are factoring in their long term Strategy
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #963
covcity4life said:
Wonder show my h mcallum worth now if he had stayed. 5m?
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We needed the money and will always need the money as long as our current situation remains the same - any talk of us holding out for these big Championship fees if any of our players are good enough is dream talk until we establish ourselves in this division
 
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Magwitch

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  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #964
If it is a loan with a view to buy I wonder if financial fair play is a reason not sure how that works and if there’s a difference in loaning than buying. Perhaps we are holding back the pennys for another.
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #965
Magwitch said:
If it is a loan with a view to buy I wonder if financial fair play is a reason not sure how that works and if there’s a difference in loaning than buying. Perhaps we are holding back the pennys for another.
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No it’s a case of pay if we stay up and not if we are relegated
 
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Magwitch

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  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #966
We will be paying then.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #967
If this is a loan possibly we may see another come in for a fee if not we have money to spend next window if needed
 

robbiekeane

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  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #968
Grendel said:
We will have received a lot less than a million up front for McCallum
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This again...

The same as we won't have paid those outgoing sums in one up front fee either...
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #969
robbiekeane said:
This again...

The same as we won't have paid those outgoing sums in one up front fee either...
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Well no as it’s possible as the top level headline fee is included to assume that is what we received - the published accounts in the end will reveal the truth
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #970
Magwitch said:
If it is a loan with a view to buy I wonder if financial fair play is a reason not sure how that works and if there’s a difference in loaning than buying. Perhaps we are holding back the pennys for another.
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What @Grendel said makes sense. But, you may have point too as the JCH deal was structured in such a way to work around FFP, iirc.
 

SBAndy

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #971
Grendel said:
Well no as it’s possible as the top level headline fee is included to assume that is what we received - the published accounts in the end will reveal the truth
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It is possible, same as it’s possible the fees we’re quoted as paying are the top level headline figures and we are in fact paying a lot less.
 
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Deity

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #972
@betterdays .... if this proposed deal is correct I assume we have not only an exclusive option with Arsenal but the player is also obligated to join us too if we take up the option ??
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #973
Deity said:
@betterdays .... if this proposed deal is correct I assume we have not only an exclusive option with Arsenal but the player is also obligated to join us too if we take up the option ??
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No one can force him to agree terms.
 
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Deity

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #974
shmmeee said:
No one can force him to agree terms.
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Not true.

he could have already pre agreed his terms should Cov take up the option.

if that condition is not built in then frankly the option is prettymeaningless
 
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Magwitch

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #975
Deity said:
@betterdays .... if this proposed deal is correct I assume we have not only an exclusive option with Arsenal but the player is also obligated to join us too if we take up the option ??
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I would think the homework will have been done can’t see Sheafs agent leaving the player high and dry should he get a serious injury. There’s a reason for the deal to be done this way.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #976
Hope it gets done tomorrow then. Maybe it was done today and will be announced tomorrow morning
 
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Magwitch

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  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #977
The only thing I heard was a deal for Sheaf was more or less agreed two or three weeks ago but signing Tyler Walker was the priority and there was a last minute problem with that deal by another club staking a late interest.
 

Malaka

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #978
Mcbean said:
you clearly have'nt been briefed on the transfer policy - were you around for the Chaplin thread ?
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And that was worth the wait wasn’t it? He was here all of five minutes
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #979
Financial Fair Play is different in this league to Lg1 and 2. I’m sure it’s based on total losses over a 3 year period, rather than SCMP
 
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djr8369

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  • Sep 3, 2020
  • #980
Magwitch said:
The only thing I heard was a deal for Sheaf was more or less agreed two or three weeks ago but signing Tyler Walker was the priority and there was a last minute problem with that deal by another club staking a late interest.
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And something about a third signing, possibly Walsh?
 
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