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Transfer Rumour Bassette to FC Utrecht (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jul 30, 2025
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SBT

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  • Monday at 12:55 PM
  • #491
Ccfcisparks said:
Well we wont know as Lampard froze him out.

Thanks for the discussion anyway.

I win.
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Why did he freeze him out?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Monday at 12:55 PM
  • #492
SBT said:
Why did he freeze him out?
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Who knows.
 
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procdoc

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  • Monday at 12:56 PM
  • #493
SBT said:
Why did he freeze him out?
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How would any of us on here know that?
 
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SBT

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  • Monday at 1:02 PM
  • #494
Ccfcisparks said:
Who knows.
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Sorry to break this to you, but I think it’s in part because he isn’t very good.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Monday at 1:04 PM
  • #495
SBT said:
Sorry to break this to you, but I think it’s in part because he isn’t very good.
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He's 20.

Wilson was out on loan at Kettering at 21
 
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procdoc

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  • Monday at 1:08 PM
  • #496
Ccfcisparks said:
He's 20.

Wilson was out on loan at Kettering at 21
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Once people form an opinion it’s pointless trying to have a civilised debate with them
 
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Domo

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  • Monday at 2:20 PM
  • #497
think many on here are ignoring the fact hes 20, yeah hes was £2m, yeah we played a good 20 games last year, what were you really expecting? the second coming of Owen? people wrote of gyok in the same way (im not saying they're the same) its not a waste of money, its just early days. i hope he comes back from loan a more focused player (if that was the issue, who knows)
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Monday at 4:58 PM
  • #498
As much as I’m not a fan, the change in management could well have caused great upheaval in his development. I know Viveash was gone before Bassette was on the scene but he’s they type of coaching personality who’d beat Bassette into shape - if attitude was the big problem, Viveash has previous in such cases.

Some take a lot of time and nurturing, if you like, to get to the standard needed and ultimately somewhat succeed. It’s all a gamble, and some players unfortunately have low ceilings and will be found out.

My money is it’s down to both attitude and ability. Could be wrong, it’s just my two penneth and it’s only worth the same as every other opinion on here. However I would question anybody who’d disagree that at the moment he’s in the right place.
 
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stupot07

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  • Monday at 6:57 PM
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Domo said:
think many on here are ignoring the fact hes 20, yeah hes was £2m, yeah we played a good 20 games last year, what were you really expecting? the second coming of Owen? people wrote of gyok in the same way (im not saying they're the same) its not a waste of money, its just early days. i hope he comes back from loan a more focused player (if that was the issue, who knows)
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As I've said before, Gyokeres was 4 years older than Bassette was at the point of signing them.
 

Domo

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  • Monday at 8:01 PM
  • #500
stupot07 said:
As I've said before, Gyokeres was 4 years older than Bassette was at the point of signing them.
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yup, and when he came here, did nothing, and we signed him we thought wtf is going on.
 

fatso

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  • Yesterday at 6:42 AM
  • #501
SBT said:
Why did he freeze him out?
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No idea, rumour is his attitude in training, but only Lampard has the answer, I cant really fault Lampard, because he's virtually frozen Simms out as well, so at least he knows where the problems are.

Some players have really developed under Lampard (Rudoni and Torp for example) others have fallen by the way side, that's just what happens when a new gaffer comes in. I hope he stays here for a couple more transfer windows at least and clears out some of the players who won't make the step up. (There's plenty of them)
 

torchomatic

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  • Yesterday at 8:36 AM
  • #502
fatso said:
No idea, rumour is his attitude in training, but only Lampard has the answer, I cant really fault Lampard, because he's virtually frozen Simms out as well, so at least he knows where the problems are.

Some players have really developed under Lampard (Rudoni and Torp for example) others have fallen by the way side, that's just what happens when a new gaffer comes in. I hope he stays here for a couple more transfer windows at least and clears out some of the players who won't make the step up. (There's plenty of them)
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"Rumour is".
 
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 8:45 AM
  • #503
fatso said:
No idea, rumour is his attitude in training
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There is this desire among his fan club to believe that it’s only Norman’s attitude holding him back, and that’s why he’s been farmed out. The simpler explanation is that he doesn’t make the bench ahead of Obikwu because he’s not as good as Obikwu, and he’s out on loan to the French second division because that’s about his level at the moment. Sometimes it’s just not that deep.
 

ccfc1234

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  • Yesterday at 9:05 AM
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SBT said:
There is this desire among his fan club to believe that it’s only Norman’s attitude holding him back, and that’s why he’s been farmed out. The simpler explanation is that he doesn’t make the bench ahead of Obikwu because he’s not as good as Obikwu, and he’s out on loan to the French second division because that’s about his level at the moment. Sometimes it’s just not that deep.
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I am not in his fan club, bit think his movement and pace are attributes that are noteworthy, the recruitment team obviously liked him too.
If he was a league one player (ability wise) something Obikuw is hopefully going to be this season in his loan to Lincon. Why did Lampard start him for so many consecutive games in a row vs others in the squad when he first arrived at the club? Frank knows his stuff and a league one level player (Obikuw level) would have stood out like a sore thumb in training and if he was that far from the level needed to be a championship starter he would have been benched far sooner.

While I agree in life it's best not to go down rabbit holes with conspiracy theories as normally the simplest explanation is the right one, however, on this occasion I think there is an attitude component at play.

Frank seems to be strong on values and respect in his dressing room and personally I am all for it.
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Yesterday at 11:31 AM
  • #505
fatso said:
No idea, rumour is his attitude in training, but only Lampard has the answer, I cant really fault Lampard, because he's virtually frozen Simms out as well, so at least he knows where the problems are.
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He will have complained about being dropped and took his ball home probably. Who can blame him when Simmo couldn't score in a knocking shop (as the saying goes!)
 
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fatso

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  • Yesterday at 12:29 PM
  • #506
Speedie's Head said:
He will have complained about being dropped and took his ball home probably. Who can blame him when Simmo couldn't score in a knocking shop (as the saying goes!)
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Any striker who finds himself behind Simms needs to find himself a new profession.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Yesterday at 12:49 PM
  • #507
SBT said:
Sorry to break this to you, but I think it’s in part because he isn’t very good.
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Neither is simms but he’s still here ?
 
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 12:50 PM
  • #508
quinn1971 said:
Neither is simms but he’s still here ?
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He’s much better than Bassette.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Yesterday at 1:01 PM
  • #509
SBT said:
He’s much better than Bassette.
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we must be watching different players then,
 
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 1:04 PM
  • #510
quinn1971 said:
we must be watching different players then,
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Yes I think so!
 

fatso

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  • Yesterday at 1:14 PM
  • #511
quinn1971 said:
Neither is simms but he’s still here ?
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No one would even take him in loan.
We're stuck with him till his contract expires in June 2027.

Raphael signed a 4 year contract, so let's hope he does well at Wigan or we are stuck with him too.
 
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 1:19 PM
  • #512
fatso said:
No one would even take him in loan.
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I don’t think there’s any evidence of Simms being offered out on loan. He’s featured in more games than not this season, he clearly has a role to play in the current squad. Bassette doesn’t, so he went to the best available interested club.
 

Offhegoes

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  • Yesterday at 4:51 PM
  • #513
SBT said:
I don’t think there’s any evidence of Simms being offered out on loan. He’s featured in more games than not this season, he clearly has a role to play in the current squad. Bassette doesn’t, so he went to the best available interested club.
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Simms will come again. I think he will be a useful player off the bench if we're chasing a game
 
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