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  • Start date Apr 11, 2014
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #106
stupot07 said:
I'll try and have a look to see if I can find data for the 2011/12 later for you, I suspect you're right especially considering the data from last season:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19842397




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To hijack this point. This is one of the many reasons I want the club fan owned. If we had visibility of exactly where the costs and lack of income are maybe we could support them (e.g. accept higher prices, buy more pies, whatever).
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #107
Moff said:
Who are the couple?

Is it you and me, Grendel and MMM, Astute and Torch, Sky Blue Kid and the good Lord Summerisle, Hill and Valiant, OSB and PSGM1 ? The suspense is killing me!

(Apologies for missing many good posters out in the name match up)
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Yeah, where's me and LAST?
 

James Smith

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #108
stupot07 said:
They paid £500k out of the escrow

It also saved ACL £5m, as they owed £19m loan but ccc bought it for £14m.

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But the money in the Escrow didn't originally come from the club/Sisu did it? Was the Escrow account topped up again?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #109
Nick said:
Also have to pay for bandwidth unfortunately
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Now I feel guilty...

Serious question: does this place cost you each month? You should post up the bill and a paypay account, I'd chip a bit in and I'm sure Grendel as the most frequent poster with a massive income would too
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #110
James Smith said:
But the money in the Escrow didn't originally come from the club/Sisu did it? Was the Escrow account topped up again?
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the money was from a grant, but was given to the club to put in the escrow so where the money came from doesn't really matter.


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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #111
shmmeee said:
To hijack this point. This is one of the many reasons I want the club fan owned. If we had visibility of exactly where the costs and lack of income are maybe we could support them (e.g. accept higher prices, buy more pies, whatever).
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Yes, I'd be all up for an annual report, including finances, etc to be published.


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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #112
shmmeee said:
Now I feel guilty...

Serious question: does this place cost you each month? You should post up the bill and a paypay account, I'd chip a bit in and I'm sure Grendel as the most frequent poster with a massive income would too
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To be honest, the site is on a dedicated server which isn't cheap. I have other sites on the server also and between them and here with adverts (even though they are annoying and I try to keep the to a minimum for members) it does pay for itself. SBT doesn't necessarily cover it, but between them they do but SBT is the busiest site and needs the most work (on a technical side rather than moderating).

I wouldn't want to take any money off anybody, rather they gave it to charity to be fair. I know some forums take donations / have membership schemes but no real need I don't think.

In December I had to buy some more memory for the server and looking to get a new one soon (if the site in my signature) takes off!

Every so often I will need to pay out for things like forum software / upgrades but to be honest I don't mind.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #113
what other sites do you run?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #114
Nick said:
To be honest, the site is on a dedicated server which isn't cheap. I have other sites on the server also and between them and here with adverts (even though they are annoying and I try to keep the to a minimum for members) it does pay for itself. SBT doesn't necessarily cover it, but between them they do but SBT is the busiest site and needs the most work (on a technical side rather than moderating).

I wouldn't want to take any money off anybody, rather they gave it to charity to be fair. I know some forums take donations / have membership schemes but no real need I don't think.

In December I had to buy some more memory for the server and looking to get a new one soon (if the site in my signature) takes off!

Every so often I will need to pay out for things like forum software / upgrades but to be honest I don't mind.
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You're a good man. I remember how server issues took down GMK, wouldn't want the same to happen here and us bitching and insulting you shouldn't cost you money.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #115
stupot07 said:
Yes, I'd be all up for an annual report, including finances, etc to be published.


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Is'nt this what the Trust have been doing ,asking questions a Shareholder would get to ask?
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #116
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yeah, where's me and LAST?
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He probably didn't want to bring up "Bovrilgate".
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #117
shmmeee said:
You're a good man. I remember how server issues took down GMK, wouldn't want the same to happen here and us bitching and insulting you shouldn't cost you money.
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I have tried to make sure that the server is as stable as possible, especially on big days. Although I don't really see eye to eye with the place I rent the server off and they keep trying to get me out and some random american in to run my websites. Out of order really
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #118
shmmeee said:
Now I feel guilty...

Serious question: does this place cost you each month? You should post up the bill and a paypay account, I'd chip a bit in and I'm sure Grendel as the most frequent poster with a massive income would too
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perhaps the club could contribute. Thats CCFC, not SISU, as they are 2 completely seperate businesses remember !
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #119
ccfcway said:
perhaps the club could contribute. Thats CCFC, not SISU, as they are 2 completely seperate businesses remember !
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I don't see why they don't have their own forum TBH, great source of intel and could answer questions directly.
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #120
Nick said:
Although I don't really see eye to eye with the place I rent the server off and they keep trying to get me out and some random american in to run my websites. Out of order really
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Not run by Hoffman and Elliott is it??
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #121
ccfcway said:
perhaps the club could contribute. Thats CCFC, not SISU, as they are 2 completely seperate businesses remember !
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As it's mostly ACL talk nowadays, a chunk could come from then.
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #122
Nick said:
I have tried to make sure that the server is as stable as possible, especially on big days. Although I don't really see eye to eye with the place I rent the server off and they keep trying to get me out and some random american in to run my websites. Out of order really
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NOPM to the server tennants!!!! We will force them out!
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #123
Nick said:
I have tried to make sure that the server is as stable as possible, especially on big days. Although I don't really see eye to eye with the place I rent the server off and they keep trying to get me out and some random american in to run my websites. Out of order really
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Sounds a familiar tale .

There's a parallel there somewhere.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #124
ccfcway said:
perhaps the club could contribute. Thats CCFC, not SISU, as they are 2 completely seperate businesses remember !
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OFF TOPIC

I have always tried to use the site as part of the club in the past (years ago when it first started and before all the crap) to try and blag things like discounts and offers for the members that would both make it a bonus of being a member on here and helps CCFC with advertising but it didn't come to much.

Now of course SISU just pay me for their PR
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #125
wingy said:
Is'nt this what the Trust have been doing ,asking questions a Shareholder would get to ask?
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But it's not really up to the trust. I was thinking more along the lines of:

http://www.evertonfc.com/assets/_fi...1357208599_Everton_Financial_Accounts_201.pdf


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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #126
lordsummerisle said:
As it's mostly ACL talk nowadays, a chunk could come from then.
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To be fair, I asked PWKH for a prediction league prize and he offered a room in the Ricoh hotel as a prize, but nobody seemed to be interest when offered

He was happy to help out and donate something. I didn't actually get a response from the club at the time
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #127
How did ccc stepping in save ACL 5 million? They owed 14 million on the loan + a figure for interest. ACL still have to pay interest on the new loan. Whilst it improves the cash flow situation has it saved them 5 million?
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #128
Nick said:
I have tried to make sure that the server is as stable as possible, especially on big days. Although I don't really see eye to eye with the place I rent the server off and they keep trying to get me out and some random american in to run my websites. Out of order really
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lol you are sisu and the server guys are the council haha

preston haskell wants your sites!
 

James Smith

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #129
stupot07 said:
the money was from a grant, but was given to the club to put in the escrow so where the money came from doesn't really matter.


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Okay and sorry to be pedantic/get the facts straight, but it therefore wasn't Sisu who paid the money out.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #130
tisza said:
How did ccc stepping in save ACL 5 million? They owed 14 million on the loan + a figure for interest. ACL still have to pay interest on the new loan. Whilst it improves the cash flow situation has it saved them 5 million?
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Not according to the telegraph.

ACL had around £19million left of a £22m loan with Yorkshire Bank for the stadium lease.

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/what-now-know-ricoh-arena-6950053


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lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #131
tisza said:
How did ccc stepping in save ACL 5 million? They owed 14 million on the loan + a figure for interest. ACL still have to pay interest on the new loan. Whilst it improves the cash flow situation has it saved them 5 million?
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As I said earlier, extending the course of the loan over 40 years has increased the amount needed to pay.

Which could at the JR be seen as not being State Aid as it has actually increased the costs on the business.
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #132
James Smith said:
Okay and sorry to be pedantic/get the facts straight, but it therefore wasn't Sisu who paid the money out.
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Was still ACL who took it, whatever it's source. Was kept in the escrow account to pay rent if the main tenant(CCFC) didn't.

Still don't know why Robinson wasn't chased for it?
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #133
James Smith said:
Okay and sorry to be pedantic/get the facts straight, but it therefore wasn't Sisu who paid the money out.
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No the money was paid by the clubs money that was in the escrow account.

We can get pedantic and say that the council don't own the whole Ricoh because the 3.9% is owned by the ERDF whom they received a habit from.




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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #134
stupot07 said:
But it's not really up to the trust. I was thinking more along the lines of:

http://www.evertonfc.com/assets/_fi...1357208599_Everton_Financial_Accounts_201.pdf


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Yeah looks good .
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #135
Acl accounts showed outstanding capital to be under 15 million in may 2012. Notes say 14.4 million was paid to satisfy the loan in full.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #136
tisza said:
Acl accounts showed outstanding capital to be under 15 million in may 2012. Notes say 14.4 million was paid to satisfy the loan in full.
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In that case we can't believe anything Simon has written....


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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #137
Witchunt! Witchunt! Witchunt! Witchunt!

stupot07 said:
In that case we can't believe anything Simon has written....


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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #138
shmmeee said:
Well, if you had a 40 year lease at £1.3m/year, yeah.
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Er....no unless you are actually suggesting the vast majority of ACL's value is based on a lease with the football club. That's a real dumb statement.
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #139
I find it quite sad and appalling that Nikki Sinclaire and Ian Calvert have decided to attack Simon all morning. Pathetic
 
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SimonGilbert

Telegraph Tea Boy
  • Apr 11, 2014
  • #140
lewys33 said:
I find it quite sad and appalling that Nikki Sinclaire and Ian Calvert have decided to attack Simon all morning. Pathetic
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All part of the job; and people are entitled to their views.

I went to Alderman Calllow, so I'm used to getting a kicking. Albeit a physical rather than virtual one!


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