Away Ticket Membership (2 Viewers)

[Nick]

When are they releasing the pricing, etc.?

If it gives access to a 10-ballot, that's going to be roughly 300-odd a game, so is there a chance that if thousands get the membership, you could go the whole season without "winning" any Away Tickets at all?

How do other clubs do theirs?

 

[Alex1987]

As with everything recently, it will be as late as possible with limited details, and a price about 25% higher than where people estimate

 

[chiefdave]

£5,000 for membership and you have to pay double the ticket cost for being a day tripper

 

[clint van damme]

When are they releasing the pricing, etc.?

If it gives access to a 10-ballot, that's going to be roughly 300-odd a game, so is there a chance that if thousands get the membership, you could go the whole season without "winning" any Away Tickets at all?

How do other clubs do theirs?

I may be wrong on this but I think how it works for some clubs is once you're successful you drop out for a predetermined number of games.

So strike it lucky for Arsenal and you're excluded from Man City.

 

[AOM]

I may be wrong on this but I think how it works for some clubs is once you're successful you drop out for a predetermined number of games.

So strike it lucky for Arsenal and you're excluded from Man City.

Think that's quite a good way of doing it.
Feels like 300 tickets isn't many if there are thousands in the hat.

 

[AOM]

Also wonder how it works if there's a group of you? Are you entered into the ballot as a group, or could it be only one of you gets a ticket?

 

[Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon]

Any idea how it would if trying to get an away ticket for a kid via the ballot? They have to be bought alongside an adult one usually so does that mean you have to both win in the ballot or can you get one via the points system and another via ballot if successful?

 

[clint van damme]

Also wonder how it works if there's a group of you? Are you entered into the ballot as a group, or could it be only one of you gets a ticket?

I'd imagine you're in for one ticket per membership, but again, just my guess and could be completely wrong.

But if people in different point bands can only get tickets for themselves in their bracket not sure why a membership would be different.

 

[AOM]

I'd imagine you're in for one ticket per membership, but again, just my guess and could be completely wrong.

But if people in different point bands can only get tickets for themselves in their bracket not sure why a membership would be different.

True, but I guess people who attend games together likely will either have similar points or at least know when they all can get tickets whereas this is a complete lottery!

 

[clint van damme]

True, but I guess people who attend games together likely will either have similar points or at least know when they all can get tickets whereas this is a complete lottery!

The points in our away group are all over the shop.

 

[Robinshio]

Membership will be irrelevant for points. Wolves charged £50 last year and allowed groups of up to 4. It was £70 if you hadn’t been a member previously. Would be good if they capped it at say 5000 to give everyone at least 1 game

 

[Hobo]

What ever system they come up with people will pick fault with it. Because it is human nature to judge things on how it fits a persons individual circumstances, rather than any positives of the over all scheme.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

I can't be ar^ed to buy into a raffle for this. I'm slightly over the 1700 points mark, and will lose the 'older' season's points before they add on this season. If that stops me from getting tickets, so be it - annoying, but doing the 'raffle' bit doesn't really sit well with me (not sure I can even explain why). Will be interesting to see how this all pans out. I've just appreciated that a lot of the PL teams are bound to give minimal away tickets due to the fact that they can only charge £30. Obviously they want to charge higher per seat to their home support.

 

[torchomatic]

As with everything recently, it will be as late as possible with limited details, and a price about 25% higher than where people estimate

King will announce the new shirt will be released as a special sale offer price of only 42% higher than last year's shirt.

 

[torchomatic]

I wonder what the lowest points total that will be needed to be able to get one of the 2700?

 

[David O'Day]

I think my United supporting mate says their away ballots are 1 per person and no groups

 

[Porkchophill]

I wonder what the lowest points total that will be needed to be able to get one of the 2700?

Yeah it would be nice to have a rough idea what the lowest bracket currently stands at for that allocation and lower

 

[Alex1987]

Yeah it would be nice to have a rough idea what the lowest bracket currently stands at for that allocation and lower

1500?

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

What I do think will happen is that 'eligible' people will buy up midweek away tickets to keep their points total up (£30) yet some will not go. I think this is more likely this season than ever before. If the new digital system is in operation for away games (i.e. non transferrable), this will be more than a tad annoying. I'm not actually worked up about it, I just think it's a shame, and encourages the 'hoarding' of points.

 

[Balli001]

What I do think will happen is that 'eligible' people will buy up midweek away tickets to keep their points total up (£30) yet some will not go. I think this is more likely this season than ever before. If the new digital system is in operation for away games (i.e. non transferrable), this will be more than a tad annoying. I'm not actually worked up about it, I just think it's a shame, and encourages the 'hoarding' of points.

We only currently have 2 midweek away i believe at Ipswich and Chelsea.

 

[torchomatic]

I don't think there's very many weekday games anyway in the PL, is there? I don't know as I've never really paid much attention.

 

[SBAndy]

I wonder what the lowest points total that will be needed to be able to get one of the 2700?

I think the slight danger with this implementation is those in the top 2000 who will go to most away games (and, let’s face it, in this season of all seasons who wouldn’t?) will just extend their points tallies so far beyond the rest. Maybe there won’t be points for aways this season, I dunno.

A fun, and fair, way to do it maybe would be that everyone can take the membership, entirely ballot-run but your points total equals the amount of times you’re entered. Naturally it’d weight more towards those who go a lot at the moment but gives a bit more variety.

 

[edgy]

They will have to ensure that people who have got tickets for any given game, cannot then enter the ballot to get more.

Could it be that the highest point holders in the fan base, are not allowed to be away members?

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

We only currently have 2 midweek away i believe at Ipswich and Chelsea.

Fair point! Although Newcastle is on a Wednesday too!

 

[Kilclines curly mullet]

Speculation, just wait until it’s officially announced

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I'd imagine you're in for one ticket per membership, but again, just my guess and could be completely wrong.

But if people in different point bands can only get tickets for themselves in their bracket not sure why a membership would be different.

If it’s like other systems, you have a ‘lead booker’. This works great for a group who are all unlikely to get a ticket via points process. The difficulty will lie when a lead booker has enough points to get a ticket without the ballot. A choice will need to be made; join the ballot together to split off and not sit together.

That’s vaguely the process for England away games.

 

[SBSid]

I think the slight danger with this implementation is those in the top 2000 who will go to most away games (and, let’s face it, in this season of all seasons who wouldn’t?) will just extend their points tallies so far beyond the rest. Maybe there won’t be points for aways this season, I dunno.

A fun, and fair, way to do it maybe would be that everyone can take the membership, entirely ballot-run but your points total equals the amount of times you’re entered. Naturally it’d weight more towards those who go a lot at the moment but gives a bit more variety.

Problem with your fun and fair way is that supporter’s who have only missed a handful or no matches over the last 25+ years could miss out.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I think the slight danger with this implementation is those in the top 2000 who will go to most away games (and, let’s face it, in this season of all seasons who wouldn’t?) will just extend their points tallies so far beyond the rest. Maybe there won’t be points for aways this season, I dunno.

A fun, and fair, way to do it maybe would be that everyone can take the membership, entirely ballot-run but your points total equals the amount of times you’re entered. Naturally it’d weight more towards those who go a lot at the moment but gives a bit more variety.

Terrible idea and unfair, a toxic mix. Why should a STH with no away games win a ballot over a veteran with 2000+ points?

2000-2500 is our regular away support. A lot of our games went to, or near general sale. Most allocations we have exceed this so a small ballot % makes sense to open up opportunities for younger fans and so on.

The top 80-90% points holders of a given allocation should be guaranteed a ticket.

 

[Alex1987]

It's been done to death but I think the system is fair (on 1600 points into the new season myself so I'm not saying this as someone who is guaranteed a ticket). I think the ballot replacing the supporter clubs is fair and I'm hoping is fairly like for like and won't push me down

 

[Incognitocov]

£5,000 for membership and you have to pay double the ticket cost for being a day tripper

Ive heard it's one of the free gifts for the Premier League pack folks. I for one do not begrudge them. The true fans who backed the club when it most needed it.

 

[Marty]

Terrible idea and unfair, a toxic mix. Why should a STH with no away games win a ballot over a veteran with 2000+ points?

2000-2500 is our regular away support. A lot of our games went to, or near general sale. Most allocations we have exceed this so a small ballot % makes sense to open up opportunities for younger fans and so on.

The top 80-90% points holders of a given allocation should be guaranteed a ticket.

The points system is in place for a reason, it should be 100% points based for away games. Plenty of opportunities for people to build up points these past seasons.

 

[Corrado]

Ive heard it's one of the free gifts for the Premier League pack folks. I for one do not begrudge them. The true fans who backed the club when it most needed it.

Not sure that's accurate - there has certainly been more pressing times.....

 

[Para1140]

I can't be ar^ed to buy into a raffle for this. I'm slightly over the 1700 points mark, and will lose the 'older' season's points before they add on this season. If that stops me from getting tickets, so be it - annoying, but doing the 'raffle' bit doesn't really sit well with me (not sure I can even explain why). Will be interesting to see how this all pans out. I've just appreciated that a lot of the PL teams are bound to give minimal away tickets due to the fact that they can only charge £30. Obviously they want to charge higher per seat to their home support.

I feel the same to be honest Ive done about 65% of away games the last three seasons and currently on 1970 points but will lose a load this season. If that means I miss out now for away games because some happy clapper has only just decided to have a st and pay to enter the ballot because all of a sudden they want to go and see old trafford or Anfield then so be it. Doug can stick it where the sun dont shine

 

[JAM See]

Just checked my points.
New ST (190) have been added, but nothing knocked off yet.

 

[Macca1987]

Just checked my points.
New ST (190) have been added, but nothing knocked off yet.

Jam are you a PLP season ticket holder, if so I heard we were keeping both as a reward