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Northeast sky blue · Jul 10, 2022

Team for the first fixture
Moore
Dabo Hyam Mcfadzean Rose Bidwell
Sheaf Hamer
O'Hare Palmer
Gyokeres
Subs Wilson. Kelly. Waghorn. Godden. Walker. Eccles. Allen.

Good enough to beat the Mackems?

Gint11 · Jul 10, 2022

Decent. Not sure about balance though. I think for the first fixture, I’d rather two up top in Godden and Gyko and sacrifice having 2 No 10s and see how we go.

CDK · Jul 10, 2022

Northeast sky blue said:
Team for the first fixture
Moore
Dabo Hyam Mcfadzean Rose Bidwell
Sheaf Hamer
O'Hare Palmer
Gyokeres
Subs Wilson. Kelly. Waghorn. Godden. Walker. Eccles. Allen.

Good enough to beat the Mackems?

Yes 2-0

rexo87 · Jul 10, 2022

Definitely good enough. The worry is one or two injuries at the back

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CovLad94 · Jul 10, 2022

Northeast sky blue said:
Team for the first fixture
Moore
Dabo Hyam Mcfadzean Rose Bidwell
Sheaf Hamer
O'Hare Palmer
Gyokeres
Subs Wilson. Kelly. Waghorn. Godden. Walker. Eccles. Allen.

Good enough to beat the Mackems?

Will probably be 2 up top, would say Palmers way off the pace so far to be starting the first game

Seaside-Skyblue · Jul 10, 2022

It's decent, no doubt about it. But we've signed just one player and got rid of several others (albeit they weren't up to standard anyway). The players in theory should be getting better with more championship experience from last season but unless robins has tapped into getting even more out of the players and maybe tweaked a few things tactically, I'm expecting to see similar shortfalls to last season i.e shipping too many goals and looking shaky at the back. That said, I expect we'll get a couple of defensive players in soon as people and Robins has mentioned so we should do ok fingers crossed and should be enough for Sunderland. Not being negative, more realistic for my own sanity, it's the hope that gets me every season!

Sorry recognise this was about the first game specifically so based on above, easy win!

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Torquay Sky Blue · Jul 10, 2022

Maatsen was an improving regular last season. We haven't replaced him yet

Tommo1993 · Jul 10, 2022

Definitely.

Sick Boy · Jul 10, 2022

I’d take a draw against them, personally.

Greggs · Jul 10, 2022

weaker than last year, 3 quality loans and we might be alright.

Speedie's Head · Jul 10, 2022

At home he'll start two up top a lot of the time but away and against some of the stronger teams it'll likely be the box midfield. It's pretty clear then that he wants to play Palmer and O'Hare together, the rest of the time Palmer will be likely cover and a sub when cal has missed his 10th sitter of the game and we're still an early goal down . Godden is my first choice every time up top every time - class finish with his left peg on Friday night. Vik needs to learn to score with his head.

the rumpo kid · Jul 10, 2022

Sick Boy · Jul 10, 2022

Speedie's Head said:
At home he'll start two up top a lot of the time but away and against some of the stronger teams it'll likely be the box midfield. It's pretty clear then that he wants to play Palmer and O'Hare together, the rest of the time Palmer will be likely cover and a sub when cal has missed his 10th sitter of the game and we're still an early goal down . Godden is my first choice every time up top every time - class finish with his left peg on Friday night. Vik needs to learn to score with his head.

Gyökeres is far superior overall to Godden, there's no way he's going to be playing second fiddle.

Speedie's Head · Jul 10, 2022

Sick Boy said:
Gyökeres is far superior overall to Godden, there's no way he's going to be playing second fiddle.

He is 2nd fiddle, like it or not

Gint11 · Jul 10, 2022

Sick Boy said:
Gyökeres is far superior overall to Godden, there's no way he's going to be playing second fiddle.

nonsense

Sick Boy · Jul 10, 2022

Gint11 said:
nonsense

Of course Gyökeres is overall a far better striker.
You're clueless if you think that's not the case.

Skyblue_CP · Jul 10, 2022

Don’t get me wrong I really like Godden but first choice ahead of Vik? No chance, Vik is superior in every department other than finishing.

rexo87 · Jul 10, 2022

Surely no one think Godden is better than Gyok?

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SlowerThanPlatt · Jul 10, 2022

Sick Boy said:
Gyökeres is far superior overall to Godden, there's no way he's going to be playing second fiddle.

Biamou reminded him of Cyrille Regis

Match Thread - Cheltenham Town (A)

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SleepyGinger · Jul 10, 2022

Decent replacements for JCS and Maatsen and it’s a very good team and bench albeit not a lot of depth, if everyone stays that is.

SleepyGinger · Jul 10, 2022

Think we’ll beat them comfortably on opening day

stay_up_skyblues · Jul 10, 2022

Unless Palmer has 15 goals a season in him Vik and Godden up top together should be plan A for me. Definitely against a newly promoted side.

SeaSeeEffCee · Jul 10, 2022

Sick Boy said:
Of course Gyökeres is overall a far better striker.
You're clueless if you think that's not the case.

The only aspect of Godden’s game that comes anywhere near Gyokeres’ is his movement and finishing. Admittedly a very important thing for a striker to have, but he’s so far off him in terms of hold up play, carrying the ball, beating a man, bullying defenders etc.

Paxman II · Jul 10, 2022

Palmer is not a starter as of yet. Much work to do there. Godden is fit and ready and our best striker. Very difficult to pick a side and who to leave out. Allen for example? But I would pretty much go with that apart from Palmer and put Godden and Gyko in together. If he goes cautious away from home then Gyko as lone striker to keep their defenders busy and Allen to come in. He could put kelly in away from home as he has good defensive ability too. What we don't do is lose. We should win at a canter for me, but 40k mackems will give them a lift first day of season. I hope we can silence them. 1-3 City.

Yorkshire SB · Jul 10, 2022

I wouldn’t start Palmer yet, let him have a couple off the bench, build his match fitness.

Also Gyokeres is probably our best player, never mind striker.

Sky Blue Harry H · Jul 10, 2022

If we could cross breed Gyokeres and Godden, we'd have a £30m player.

Speedie's Head · Jul 10, 2022

They're o

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Biamou reminded him of Cyrille Regis

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Skybluecol · Jul 10, 2022

Defence is a massive concern for me at the moment. Fadz only getting older, Dabo was inconsistent last year (hoping that changes) and Bidwell is a bench player at best for us. If we keep the big 3 then defo 2 full back and a CB required. Hyam really is becoming a solid CB and Rose improved 2nd half the season. We conceded way too many goals down our right hand side last season, especially at home.
I'd be more than happy with a similar season with flirting with the playoffs.

Sick Boy · Jul 10, 2022

rexo87 said:
Surely no one think Godden is better than Gyok?

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It appears they do!

stay_up_skyblues · Jul 10, 2022

Skybluecol said:
Defence is a massive concern for me at the moment. Fadz only getting older, Dabo was inconsistent last year (hoping that changes) and Bidwell is a bench player at best for us. If we keep the big 3 then defo 2 full back and a CB required. Hyam really is becoming a solid CB and Rose improved 2nd half the season. We conceded way too many goals down our right hand side last season, especially at home.
I'd be more than happy with a similar season with flirting with the playoffs.

RE Dabo, he is routinely a standout performer whenever he gets a run of games and up to full match fitness. His patchy form always corresponds with coming back from injury. If he stays fit he’s a quality RWB at this level.

Samo · Jul 10, 2022

rexo87 said:
Surely no one think Godden is better than Gyok?

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I think he's a better finisher, not a better player.

Samo · Jul 10, 2022

Northeast sky blue said:
Team for the first fixture
Moore
Dabo Hyam Mcfadzean Rose Bidwell
Sheaf Hamer
O'Hare Palmer
Gyokeres
Subs Wilson. Kelly. Waghorn. Godden. Walker. Eccles. Allen.

Good enough to beat the Mackems?

I don't think Palmer will start.

Seaside-Skyblue · Jul 10, 2022

Samo said:
I think he's a better finisher, not a better player.

Yes this. Gyok offers a lot more overall, hold up play, taking on players etc but Goddens the best finisher in the team IMO. They should in theory be a complete strike force together but havent always linked up well.

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procdoc · Jul 10, 2022

I love Matty Godden. He’s our best finisher and is one the best forwards we have signed for ages. However he is not better than Vik.
Vik is an absolute beast that, even when not scoring, bullies defenders. He’s the best striker we have had in the championship overall.
But, as I say, this isn’t a slight on Godden at all

steve cooper · Jul 10, 2022

It's likely that with one up front, Godden will start on the bench but he will play some part in most games when fit. The high press high energy game needs 2 strikers ideally to play the lone striker role.

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