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  • Start date Apr 24, 2015
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italiahorse

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  • May 27, 2015
  • #71
chiefdave said:
The 2 year break clause, which is at the end of the forthcoming season, is in Wasps favour so there's no guarantee we will be at the Ricoh after that.
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The deal details were confidential !!
Your guessing again ?
 

M&B Stand

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2015
  • #72
martcov said:
We won't be going anywhere. We have nowhere to go to. Wasps have done a lot of PR to establish themselves in Cov. Throwing CCFC out would negate that in one hit. There would be uproar - even from the Council. There should be discussions going on now to at least have options for the next 10 years. It is in Wasps interest as much as CCFC's to be able to plan in advance. I wouldn't be relying on a stadium being built in the short term.
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Would there?
Maybe there would be If we had new owners by the time next rental deal needs renegotiating. If sisu are still here I'd half expect some clowns to demand Wasps play hardball.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2015
  • #73
martcov said:
We won't be going anywhere. We have nowhere to go to. Wasps have done a lot of PR to establish themselves in Cov. Throwing CCFC out would negate that in one hit. There would be uproar - even from the Council. There should be discussions going on now to at least have options for the next 10 years. It is in Wasps interest as much as CCFC's to be able to plan in advance. I wouldn't be relying on a stadium being built in the short term.
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Sisu could always engineer a way to leave, that will show we have no choice and it's everybody else's fault !!
Sound familiar ?
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2015
  • #74
M&B Stand said:
Would there?
Maybe there would be If we had new owners by the time next rental deal needs renegotiating. If sisu are still here I'd half expect some clowns to demand Wasps play hardball.
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Wasps will need to play this very carefully IMHO, particularly if Sisu start JR2 and include Wasps in it.
Also the new stadium is a bluff to call if they want to stretch a point ?
 
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martcov

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  • May 27, 2015
  • #75
M&B Stand said:
Would there?
Maybe there would be If we had new owners by the time next rental deal needs renegotiating. If sisu are still here I'd half expect some clowns to demand Wasps play hardball.
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Who could "demand" how Wasps negotiate? It is more likely that CCFC staying or being given preferential Treatment was in the Ricoh deal. A sticking point with SISU and CCC was the unencumbered freehold, and also SISU's failure to produce a business plan. Wasps will only be interested in rent and some security - such as 6 months rent up front. They are not selling the Ricoh and won't be bothered about SISU's legal war with the council. So the station could make life easier for some city fans over the next few years. We ain't goin nowhere....
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2015
  • #76
italiahorse said:
The deal details were confidential !!
Your guessing again ?
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No it isn't. It was confirmed in the bond prospectus details
 
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martcov

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  • May 27, 2015
  • #77
italiahorse said:
Sisu could always engineer a way to leave, that will show we have no choice and it's everybody else's fault !!
Sound familiar ?
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Been there, done that... Stadium bluff is at best Medium term. CCFC aren't going anywhere short term. Even less likely now we have an experienced manager starting to get the club in order. The last thing TM needs is a new stadium discussion. Priority is getting a team together which can fill the Ricoh. That includes improving the "home feeling" at the Ricoh. New stadium - maybe long term if we are doing well, but for now let's see what Wasps can offer us.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2015
  • #78
martcov said:
There would be uproar - even from the Council. There should be discussions going on now to at least have options for the next 10 years.
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I would love to think that would be the case however I suspect all it would take is a leak from Wasps to the CT pointing the blame at SISU and Wasps would be in the clear.

Saying that I don't think even Wasps are stupid enough to kick is out, of more concern is how much they will hike the rent up when the current deal expires.

italiahorse said:
The deal details were confidential !!
Your guessing again ?
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Not at all, as Grendel says it was detailed in the prospectus.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2015
  • #79
chiefdave said:
I would love to think that would be the case however I suspect all it would take is a leak from Wasps to the CT pointing the blame at SISU and Wasps would be in the clear.

Saying that I don't think even Wasps are stupid enough to kick is out, of more concern is how much they will hike the rent up when the current deal expires.



Not at all, as Grendel says it was detailed in the prospectus.
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I think that is it in a nutshell. Wasps are not stupid enough to kick us out. They are trying to get the Coventry people on-board, not totally piss them all off.

Not saying though that they won't make it hard for CCFC to survive here come re-negotiation time.
 
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Limey

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2015
  • #80
Wasps have us by the scotch eggs. Just waiting for the squeeze.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2015
  • #81
Grendel said:
No it isn't. It was confirmed in the bond prospectus details
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chiefdave said:
I would love to think that would be the case however I suspect all it would take is a leak from Wasps to the CT pointing the blame at SISU and Wasps would be in the clear.

Saying that I don't think even Wasps are stupid enough to kick is out, of more concern is how much they will hike the rent up when the current deal expires.



Not at all, as Grendel says it was detailed in the prospectus.
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So the "minimum 4 year agreement with Coventry City FC " mentioned in the overview of the first six months is wrong then ?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2015
  • #82
italiahorse said:
So the "minimum 4 year agreement with Coventry City FC " mentioned in the overview of the first six months is wrong then ?
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yep you've been lied to

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/56170-Club-aims-to-raise-£35m-from-bond?p=902327#post902327
 

M&B Stand

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2015
  • #83
martcov said:
Who could "demand" how Wasps negotiate? It is more likely that CCFC staying or being given preferential Treatment was in the Ricoh deal. A sticking point with SISU and CCC was the unencumbered freehold, and also SISU's failure to produce a business plan. Wasps will only be interested in rent and some security - such as 6 months rent up front. They are not selling the Ricoh and won't be bothered about SISU's legal war with the council. So the station could make life easier for some city fans over the next few years. We ain't goin nowhere....
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Dunno.......the same people that demanded the CVA was rejected??
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • May 27, 2015
  • #84
A pdf train timetable can be found here - http://www.londonmidland.com/your-journey/timetables/ in the coventry to nuneaton section.

They are listed as 1 an hour, but special event timetables haven't been announced yet. Was a while back but the Cov Observer reported they'd be every 15 mins.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2015
  • #85
MusicDating said:
A pdf train timetable can be found here - http://www.londonmidland.com/your-journey/timetables/ in the coventry to nuneaton section.

They are listed as 1 an hour, but special event timetables haven't been announced yet. Was a while back but the Cov Observer reported they'd be every 15 mins.
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Given the way we get treated as an afterthought would anyone be surprised if our matches don't count as special events.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2015
  • #86
Grendel said:
yep you've been lied to

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/56170-Club-aims-to-raise-£35m-from-bond?p=902327#post902327
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Nope .. not there
You said in the prospectus and then quote something else.
If I didnt know you better it seems you are trying to confuse.
 
Last edited: May 27, 2015

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2015
  • #87
I live 5 minutes walk from the station at Bermuda but wouldn't dream of using it but hope lots do as it will make my drive in even easier than the 10 minutes it takes now.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2015
  • #88
A name for the Station?
Richardson's Fault........................




Sorry Halt:$
 

Rusty Trombone

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2015
  • #89
italiahorse said:
Nope .. not there
You said in the prospectus and then quote something else.
If I didnt know you better it seems you are trying to confuse.
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Page 72 of the bond prospectus.

Otium Entertainment Group Limited has executed a licence with a four year term,
commencing 21 August 2014 for Coventry City Football Club to play professional
football matches at the Arena. There is a break clause in favour of ACL exercisable in
2016.
 
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Tonylinc

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2015
  • #90
wingy said:
A name for the Station?
Richardson's Fault........................ Ricoh Stop obviously.




Sorry Halt:$
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italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2015
  • #91
Rusty Trombone said:
Page 72 of the bond prospectus.

Otium Entertainment Group Limited has executed a licence with a four year term,
commencing 21 August 2014 for Coventry City Football Club to play professional
football matches at the Arena. There is a break clause in favour of ACL exercisable in
2016.
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Thanks. I'm there now.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 28, 2015
  • #92


Station crowd control
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 28, 2015
  • #93
italiahorse said:
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Noticed that when I went up the other day. Let's just say its designed for sell outs, not for the current crowds!

Station crowd control
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 28, 2015
  • #94


Not sure about that. As far as I'm aware there are no additional carriages or special trains to call at the station so its a single carriage every hour in each direction. You'd need crowd control regardless.
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 28, 2015
  • #95
italiahorse said:
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Station crowd control
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Looks like Rugby market sheep pens used to look (are they still there ?)
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 28, 2015
  • #96
Captain Dart said:
Looks like Rugby market sheep pens used to look (are they still there ?)
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Apart from that being a picture of Watford, No they're not. The cattle market is long gone.
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 28, 2015
  • #97
fernandopartridge said:
Not sure about that. As far as I'm aware there are no additional carriages or special trains to call at the station so its a single carriage every hour in each direction. You'd need crowd control regardless.
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Not saying you're wrong FP, but it would be madness not to add more trains or carriages for special events. However, you do wonder.

They'll certainly need that crowd control if they're trying to get more than 70 people an hour away from the stadium with the current service!
 
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Seamus1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 28, 2015
  • #98
Is there any form of crowd control structure for the other platform?
 
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armybike

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 28, 2015
  • #99
Here's some details from the NUCKLE info pack -

 
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Monners

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 28, 2015
  • #100


Just emailed London Midland, and this is what we can expect
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 15, 2020
  • #101
So the upgrade to get loads of trains running isn't happening now either.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2020
  • #102
Nick said:
So the upgrade to get loads of trains running isn't happening now either.
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Saw that, another well managed project.

All that disruption near the station to build an underpass that they then blocked off claiming it wasn't needed until the new platform and now they're so far over budget there won't be another platform.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2020
  • #103
chiefdave said:
Saw that, another well managed project.

All that disruption near the station to build an underpass that they then blocked off claiming it wasn't needed until the new platform and now they're so far over budget there won't be another platform.
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I believe the under pass is for connecting the station and carpark and wasnt opening until the new multi carpark is built.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2020
  • #104
Nick said:
So the upgrade to get loads of trains running isn't happening now either.
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Might be in the minority here, but I couldn’t care less that wasps aren’t getting improved transport links to their ground ?

can people not get the bus, Uber, drive. There’s a free flag in it for them. Does this cause issues for the away fans at wasps games ?, it’s a shame for them
 
Last edited: Jan 15, 2020
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ccfc1234

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2020
  • #105
Some people have not got a clue. Sadly all too often work for the public and get paid way too much.
 
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