thorn in my side
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- sums up your attitude really. Well done. I hope it makes you feel better about yourself.well there is a hell of a lot more evidence of someone assuming the moral high ground in your post than there is in ccfcdan's one! That attracts resentment from me, towards you and your views. Not for the first time!
1) "no credible alternative..cite hoffman as a saviour": That's slightly contradicting and very patronising. We know that there was a bid, but it was scuppered by kd. Hoffman not being credible is your opinion, not a fact. I think he is credible, and many agree. - apologies if i sounded patronising. We agree to differ regarding the "hoffman" bid and the circumstances in which it came to be rejected.
2) "many fans prefer to stick with sisu than see the club go into administration". Blimey, where do i start with this doozy?!? Most fans wouldn't prefer sisu to administration; many would take the hit to get rid of them. And it's an irrelevant argument; most of the supposed "debt" is to sisu through loans. The one's who lose most through administration are sisu, who would get less from that route than they would from accepting a bid of, say, £1 up front then 10-15% of the loan figure in installments over the next few years. So they won't put is into administration. If they did, then we'd be much more attractive to more potential owners who could "start again" to some extent. And with sisu's "strategy" all but guaranteeing relegation, the loss of income and financial damage will be so great that it will threaten the clubs very existence. That's worse than administration... - we agree to differ. Many fans I speak to and sit with see administration as unacceptable and the worse outcome.
3) "we just do not ram (our views) down your throats with protests". Erm...the protests were voicing a viewpoint. Protesting is an inalienable human right; without protests, libya would still be a dictatorship. You seem to be taking a very autocratic standpoint that few bar our owners, middle ages monarchs, and dictatorial leaders would agree with! But the bit i really take issue with is "ramming views down throats"; the protests were deliberately family-friendly. If anything, they were too gentile. They in no way merited the intolerant response that ccfcdan posted about. apologies. When I walked by I was told I need to "take a long hard look at myself". I was made to feel uncomfortable attending a football match with my son, the comment implying my support for my club was not welcome. I accept this comment was that of one person and probably not indicative of the many fans who sought to voice their protests. Please do not suggest the protests were too "gentile" as that conjures up the prospect of unsavory scenes even if that was not what you intended by such remark -.
4) "we are just as entitled to our views as you are". Gross hypocrisy! So you can have your view, but we're "ramming them down peoples throats" by expressing ours in a peaceful and civilized manner?!? - you do not appear comfortable with me expressing my view, seeking to ridicule and shout me down should I post anything contrary to your viewpoint.
5) "we will not be made to feel unfaithful to our club". Nobody said that you had to. I understand that some don't want to protest and they'd rather get behind the lads than boycott. Most protesters agree with me. Bit paranoid there, fella-guilty conscience, perhaps? - no. Not paranoid. Just fed up that if i do not tow the party line on this forum then i am a wum / not a fan / a bit paranoid etc etc. It wears a bit thin after a while.
6) "i too sensed yesterday many fans running out of patience with the protests". Wow, psychic too? Well, better crush us with bullets and tanks, eh? You need to accept - many fans do not share your views. Many remain undecided. Many accept their lot. You should not seek to alienate us simply because we do not "get off our backsides" and throw our support behind you. You need to listen. I was inside the ground and very much aware of the comments and concerns of those sitting by me and around me. You can dismiss my comments and those of others, but you will not win hearts and minds in your cause if you do so.
you win my "post of the year" award, btw. Utter bleedin genius.
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