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  • Thread starter Sky Blue Pete
  • Start date Jan 15, 2020
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Do you full support the statement from our online community

  • Fully support the statement

    Votes: 368 98.7%
  • Not in my name thank you

    Votes: 5 1.3%

  • Total voters
    373
  • Poll closed Jan 20, 2020.
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 23, 2020
  • #701
Grendel said:
Shen you say removal of legal action does that include the right of appeal if the complaint goes against them?
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Nah it’s just in line with what they’d already signed. I’m trying find out specifically what that was
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 23, 2020
  • #702
Sky Blue Pete said:
Nah it’s just in line with what they’d already signed. I’m trying find out specifically what that was
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I think the next issue will be that. There will be an insistence of non appeal if the decision goes against them and they will insist on the same for the other party. It’s a red herring really
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 23, 2020
  • #703
Grendel said:
I think the next issue will be that. There will be an insistence of non appeal if the decision goes against them and they will insist on the same for the other party. It’s a red herring really
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The legal stuff? I think it’s a way to build relationships
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 23, 2020
  • #704
Sky Blue Pete said:
The legal stuff? I think it’s a way to build relationships
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The complaint isn’t against wasps it’s against the council and therefore the indemnity extends to “all parties impacted”
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 23, 2020
  • #705
Grendel said:
I think the next issue will be that. There will be an insistence of non appeal if the decision goes against them and they will insist on the same for the other party. It’s a red herring really
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I think you’re right. That’s why I was asking about the line in the club press release about legal rights when they were also saying they’d agreed to no more legal action so something is obviously fishy there.

That’s why you focus on the indemnity which is indefensible. Ideally that’s it and we are back, more likely it uncovers the next obstacle to overcome.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 23, 2020
  • #706
shmmeee said:
I think you’re right. That’s why I was asking about the line in the club press release about legal rights when they were also saying they’d agreed to no more legal action so something is obviously fishy there.

That’s why you focus on the indemnity which is indefensible. Ideally that’s it and we are back, more likely it uncovers the next obstacle to overcome.
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Yep I ageee
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 23, 2020
  • #707
shmmeee said:
I think you’re right. That’s why I was asking about the line in the club press release about legal rights when they were also saying they’d agreed to no more legal action so something is obviously fishy there.

That’s why you focus on the indemnity which is indefensible. Ideally that’s it and we are back, more likely it uncovers the next obstacle to overcome.
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They promised no further action against Wasps.
In mid-April, SISU signed an undertaking to irrevocably cease all proceedings against Wasps relating to the sale and lease of the Ricoh Arena
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Think that’s fair enough. If they continue action against the council the only way it impacts Wasps is if the council are found to be in the wrong.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 23, 2020
  • #708
shmmeee said:
That’s why you focus on the indemnity which is indefensible. Ideally that’s it and we are back, more likely it uncovers the next obstacle to overcome.
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Completely agree, that’s the point I’ve been trying to make to Neil. Stop concentrating on potential issues years down the line and worry about the immediate problem.

Get that resolved and go from there.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 23, 2020
  • #709
chiefdave said:
Completely agree, that’s the point I’ve been trying to make to Neil. Stop concentrating on potential issues years down the line and worry about the immediate problem.

Get that resolved and go from there.
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Exactly but they won't because that's not shouting sisu and it means saying something against wasps.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 23, 2020
  • #710
chiefdave said:
Completely agree, that’s the point I’ve been trying to make to Neil. Stop concentrating on potential issues years down the line and worry about the immediate problem.

Get that resolved and go from there.
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Bang on
 
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SBbucks

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 23, 2020
  • #711
shmmeee said:
All we can do really is keep our position clear and keep on at the media to amplify it during interviews with key players.
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Totally agree, we should be doing this while we have some momentum; somebody needs to go on the CWR phone-in on Friday and keep banging home our position. Any volunteers? (I suggested this previously but nobody stepped forward..).
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 23, 2020
  • #712
SBbucks said:
Totally agree, we should be doing this while we have some momentum; somebody needs to go on the CWR phone-in on Friday and keep banging home our position. Any volunteers? (I suggested this previously but nobody stepped forward..).
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I’m at music group practice unfortunately this week sorry
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 23, 2020
  • #713
I’ll have to see. I just managed to get home in time the other week, what’s the general thrust if so?
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 23, 2020
  • #714
shmmeee said:
I’ll have to see. I just managed to get home in time the other week, what’s the general thrust if so?
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Depends what dave boddy says tonight.
But I would say it’s to encourage them to get wasps ceo on to ask about what is stopping them removing the indemnity clause
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 23, 2020
  • #715
Sky Blue Pete said:
Depends what dave boddy says tonight.
But I would say it’s to encourage them to get wasps ceo on to ask about what is stopping them removing the indemnity clause
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Unless, and I’m very open to this, the match needs to be the focus this Friday and we don’t need to bring up.
 
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SBbucks

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 23, 2020
  • #716
shmmeee said:
I’ll have to see. I just managed to get home in time the other week, what’s the general thrust if so?
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It would be great if you could. The key point to make is "why are the local media (including CWR) not calling out Wasps on the indemnity demand?" We need to make this point until they start doing something about it. Have a listen to last Friday's phone-in on the CWR website, I was on at about 37 minutes in; we just need to keep hammering that point until they listen. Pete was on the previous week so well worth a listen and then pick up on his points. Hope this helps!
 
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paulcalf

Member
  • Jan 23, 2020
  • #717
How do i actually vote in this?

There are no voting buttons for me.

I've read some of the thread on my phone, but not all of it.

I support the statement.

I'm also a member of the Trust and pay a £1 every year automatically through paypal I think.

They haven't asked my opinion, but seem to talk on my behalf anyway!
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 23, 2020
  • #718
paulcalf said:
How do i actually vote in this?

There are no voting buttons for me.

I've read some of the thread on my phone, but not all of it.

I support the statement.

I'm also a member of the Trust and pay a £1 every year automatically through paypal I think.

They haven't asked my opinion, but seem to talk on my behalf anyway!
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I’m sorry it closed on Tuesday night

thanks for coming on though
 
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paulcalf

Member
  • Jan 23, 2020
  • #719
Sky Blue Pete said:
I’m sorry it closed on Tuesday night

thanks for coming on though
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Sorry I missed the vote.

Well done for what you are doing.

Thanks
 
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jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #720
I’m baffled by Neil to be honest,

He keeps saying If your a member your free to apply to join the board.


but it would be wrong to have an election at the drop of the hat



Should the members not have the option to have an election when they wish if they believe the trust doesn’t represent them ?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #721
jordan210 said:
I’m baffled by Neil to be honest,

He keeps saying If your a member your free to apply to join the board.


but it would be wrong to have an election at the drop of the hat



Should the members not have the option to have an election when they wish if they believe the trust doesn’t represent them ?
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They do. You need something like 5% of members to support IIRC. I posted it before, have a read of the constitution.
 
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jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #722
shmmeee said:
They do. You need something like 5% of members to support IIRC. I posted it before, have a read of the constitution.
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So Neil should be telling people the correct information like you have. Not thats its wrong to have an election.

Main issue is no one knows how many actual members the trust have. So its 5% of anything
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #723
jordan210 said:
So Neil should be telling people the correct information like you have. Not thats its wrong to have an election.

Main issue is no one knows how many actual members the trust have. So its 5% of anything
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And they are unwilling to put anything in place that cleanses their membership of inactive people.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #724
5% of 2700 is 135
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #725
But there's no way that's the amount of 'active' Trust members so impossible to get.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #726
I reckon there’d be 135 on here out of the 368 that voted in the statement thread
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #727
Sky Blue Pete said:
I reckon there’d be 135 on here out of the 368 that voted in the statement thread
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The wording of that clause is pretty odd isn’t it? Everyone has to raise exactly the same motion (which yes can be done) and then the board arrange a special meeting.

There’s nothing that requires them to put that date on a communication platform either from what I can see
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #728
Grendel said:
The wording of that clause is pretty odd isn’t it? Everyone has to raise exactly the same motion (which yes can be done) and then the board arrange a special meeting.

There’s nothing that requires them to put that date on a communication platform either from what I can see
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It’s an in though isn’t it? And as shmmee says act reasonably and expect others too and if they don’t point it out clearly
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #729
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s an in though isn’t it? And as shmmee says act reasonably and expect others too and if they don’t point it out clearly
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The issue is that this isn't a new thing, people have become frustrated because they have acted reasonably in the past and not got anywhere.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #730
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s an in though isn’t it? And as shmmee says act reasonably and expect others too and if they don’t point it out clearly
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I would use the “special meeting” to enact a policy action - it’s a takeover I believe that’s being suggested which will end up as a media war
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #731
Nick said:
The issue is that this isn't a new thing, people have become frustrated because they have acted reasonably in the past and not got anywhere.
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Yep course I completely understand that yep
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #732
Grendel said:
I would use the “special meeting” to enact a policy action - it’s a takeover I believe that’s being suggested which will end up as a media war
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It's naive to think they won't be all over the Telegraph and CWR.

Look at what happened the other day on CWR for example. "Do you think the Trust aren't the voice of the fans?"
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #733
Grendel said:
I would use the “special meeting” to enact a policy action - it’s a takeover I believe that’s being suggested which will end up as a media war
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That’s a wise challenge Grendel and how it would appear yep I agree
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #734
Is there not a space on the board that was vacated when Roger Ellis stood down?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 24, 2020
  • #735
mark82 said:
Is there not a space on the board that was vacated when Roger Ellis stood down?
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He’s still our representative on the FSA
 
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