I understand that I just think we need to not merely focus on the Trust. They are becoming irrelevant- the statement on its own, and the number of people who supported it demonstrated that.The trust have one aim. To install Hoffman as owner of the club and see this as an opportunity. It’s very obvious and I’ve always said they should just admit it and sell it to the fan base. Instead they pretend the “hold everyone to account” nonsense - they should just make this position clear and move on
That is a bit bizarre I assume the offer to help with IT etc. is still there Nick?He genuinely has no interest. He's just a brush to try and clean up and put it under the carpet.
I understand that I just think we need to not merely focus on the Trust. They are becoming irrelevant- the statement on its own, and the number of people who supported it demonstrated that.
Just think we should concentrate on the indemnity as the key issue in getting is back.
That is a bit bizarre I assume the offer to help with IT etc. is still there Nick?
If they don’t want to engage with the wider fan base , then ignore them.
I agree but I also think the Trust are a key to more pressure about the indemnity.
Getting them and the telegraph to at least acknowledge it was a step.
So many people have no idea about the indemnity or things in general because they listen to people like the Trust and the Telegraph.
We can live in hope Nick. In the ideal world the Board will listen.
Based on interacting with him on twitter I very much doubt anything will change. I hope I'm wrong but my impression is he's trying to brush us off. They're scared of opening up a voting system which really would democratise the whole thing.
He’s saying there can’t be an election to get someone else on the board and has admitted it was only existing board members who got to vote on the most recent additions. Couldn’t be any more of a closed shop!We need to persist though, to expose that they are a closed shop.
He’s saying there can’t be an election to get someone else on the board and has admitted it was only existing board members who got to vote on the most recent additions. Couldn’t be any more of a closed shop!
Who's "Mark Dimmock" in those twitter threads, he seems sensible. Is he on here?
He’s saying there can’t be an election to get someone else on the board and has admitted it was only existing board members who got to vote on the most recent additions. Couldn’t be any more of a closed shop!
You say leave him to it, he posts mistruths constantly. It's very dangerous surely?
Who's "Mark Dimmock" in those twitter threads, he seems sensible. Is he on here?
There goes my anonymityTis me
Mark82 bit naive to be honest
I'd be more inclined to be involved if they really had the clubs interest at heart. It should be a condition that all members should be season ticket holders or resign imo, but some of these didn't even go to the Ricoh because of SISU. It's embarrassing really, but no interest in us returning, simply an agenda to get SISU out and Hoffman in so they have a sear at the top table. I wouldn't want those parasites involved any more than I do Fisher or Sepalla.
Not at all what i meant and you know it. Besides anyone who has time to put into being on the trust should use tgat time working if finances are so tight.No poor people/people who work shifts allowed. Top plan.
It’s already a condition of membership that you’re a fan IIRC.
One of the Trust board has had discussions with Wasps about a Phoenix Club playing at the Ricoh. Surely that's worrying in it's self?[/QUOTEd]
When the Trust was resurrected seams like a hundred years ago now. It was done so because of what was seen as the very rea threat of the club going pop. As I understand it the Trust was brought back to life so that if it did happen a Phoenix club could be formed. No matter what people say it was never the intention to start a Phoenix club while CCFC was still in existence. At the time I thought it was a good idea but thinking about it now if it did happen that would be the end for me. Now going back to the original point stop talking about a Phoenix club until or if it happens.
No one wants any thanks unless that thanks includes walking up to the Ricoh for the next home game
I’m pretty sure that if you define your success criteria as an organisation with things that are out of your hands you set yourselves up to fail.
Our success criteria has been easy
cwr want ccfc to change their attitude and come back to coventry
We don’t think that’s right and want others to know that.
I said it, we said it, our statement said it. Cwr acknowledges it and added wasps threw the club out for good measure
well that’s a tick
So what next?
we needed the trust to acknowledge the indemnity and that wasps hold the key to this
how?
well we called out the trust on the indemnity and the afternoon that the statement was published the trust acknowledged it, said they should have published stuff and added notes of meetings and letters to wasps
again for me a tick
So what next? This is where it’s tricky cos it’s out of our hands
Wasps remove indemnity
Ccfc / Sisu restate removal of all legal action against wasps
When?
What pressure can be brought?
get coventry back into coventry
when?
What pressure can be brought?
United sky blues fan voice
When?
How?
What does it look like?
That’s where my heads at
Not at all what i meant and you know it. Besides anyone who has time to put into being on the trust should use tgat time working if finances are so tight.
I’m confused as to what your point is. Do you think Trust membership should only be open to ST holders or the board should only be that? Surely it’s up to members to decide how they want to use their vote?
No one wants any thanks unless that thanks includes walking up to the Ricoh for the next home game
I’m pretty sure that if you define your success criteria as an organisation with things that are out of your hands you set yourselves up to fail.
Our success criteria has been easy
cwr want ccfc to change their attitude and come back to coventry
We don’t think that’s right and want others to know that.
I said it, we said it, our statement said it. Cwr acknowledges it and added wasps threw the club out for good measure
well that’s a tick
So what next?
we needed the trust to acknowledge the indemnity and that wasps hold the key to this
how?
well we called out the trust on the indemnity and the afternoon that the statement was published the trust acknowledged it, said they should have published stuff and added notes of meetings and letters to wasps
again for me a tick
So what next? This is where it’s tricky cos it’s out of our hands
Wasps remove indemnity
Ccfc / Sisu restate removal of all legal action against wasps
When?
What pressure can be brought?
get coventry back into coventry
when?
What pressure can be brought?
United sky blues fan voice
When?
How?
What does it look like?
That’s where my heads at
All in good timeWhen? How? What does it look like?
Here's my thoughts on a plan:
Rightly or wrongly, the Trust have issue with some members of the forum. We therefore need a united front. I suggest that some of the more vocal ones on this subject from SBTa, meet up to discuss this in detail in terms of how can we work together - how can we work with them to help their objectives and try and mend a fragmented fan base. Then someone like you (the public voice of SBTa at the moment) or I can approach them with said plan to see what their thoughts are. Try and get us all around a table like adults if we can. People from SBTa and SBTr.
We can be open and honest and minute what's discussed in our little SBTa meeting. Publish them so we have nothing to hide. Share them with the CET and Observer if we have to. At least then we can be seen to being proactive and if the SBTr turn us down, it'll be in the media for all to see and won't reflect well on them.
I think if we have a joined up approach as a community and structure that approach so it's open, honest and has the best interests of the club at heart, then it 'might' have a different outcome. If it doesn't, well, at least we know we've tried as a community and it'll reflect badly on them when in truth, they could do with some help. The adverse media would be their look out.
I never said it was superfan and of course I dont mean trust members. If my original post wasn't clear I mean the trust board members that's why I said should resign their post.I’m confused as to what your point is. Do you think Trust membership should only be open to ST holders or the board should only be that? Surely it’s up to members to decide how they want to use their vote?
Being a ST holder isn’t some fast pass into superfan status. And lacking one doesn’t kick you out the club. There’s loads of reasons people can’t commit to one.
I never said it was superfan and of course I dont mean trust members. If my original post wasn't clear I mean the trust board members that's why I said should resign their post.
Not naïve, just antagonisation isn't going to get you anywhere.
No one wants any thanks unless that thanks includes walking up to the Ricoh for the next home game
I’m pretty sure that if you define your success criteria as an organisation with things that are out of your hands you set yourselves up to fail.
Our success criteria has been easy
cwr want ccfc to change their attitude and come back to coventry
We don’t think that’s right and want others to know that.
I said it, we said it, our statement said it. Cwr acknowledges it and added wasps threw the club out for good measure
well that’s a tick
So what next?
we needed the trust to acknowledge the indemnity and that wasps hold the key to this
how?
well we called out the trust on the indemnity and the afternoon that the statement was published the trust acknowledged it, said they should have published stuff and added notes of meetings and letters to wasps
again for me a tick
So what next? This is where it’s tricky cos it’s out of our hands
Wasps remove indemnity
Ccfc / Sisu restate removal of all legal action against wasps
When?
What pressure can be brought?
get coventry back into coventry
when?
What pressure can be brought?
United sky blues fan voice
When?
How?
What does it look like?
That’s where my heads at
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