air india plane to gatwick crashed (9 Viewers)

[Robinshio]

200 on board

 

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[SBT]

Jesus…..a 787 Dreamliner as well, think that’s the first deadly crash involving one of those?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Crashed almost immediately after takeoff. The radar data showing it took off at virtually the end of the runway suggests it probably took off with insufficient speed then stalled.

Similar crashes to that in the past with similar causes

 

[Grendel]

Crashed almost immediately after takeoff. The radar data showing it took off at virtually the end of the runway suggests it probably took off with insufficient speed then stalled.

Similar crashes to that in the past with similar causes

Early to speculate but that would suggest potential pilot error.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Jesus…..a 787 Dreamliner as well, think that’s the first deadly crash involving one of those?

Weren't Boeing under investigation recently due to incomplete or falsified inspections on their 787s...

 

[Grendel]

Weren't Boeing under investigation recently due to incomplete or falsified inspections on their 787s...

There was a whistle blower regarding faulty brackets around the fuselage

 

[Captain Dart]

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

Terrible. Hope Trump doesn't comment out of respect for the families, but sadly he can't keep his gob shut.

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Early to speculate but that would suggest potential pilot error.

Indeed, but can't rule out a technical issue causing a stall either.

 

[alexccfc99]

I work at BHX and they have grounded their entire fleet including the flights from here to Delhi and Amritsar presumably going to have to check all the planes over before they fly again

 

[rob9872]

RIP to all involved and their familes.

 

[rob9872]

Terrible. Hope Trump doesn't comment out of respect for the families, but sadly he can't keep his gob shut.

Terrible that this should be your first thought.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Early take on this, looks like all power may have been lost shortly after rotation, which is just odd. Hard to say, but the flaps (which are needed to create sufficient lift) don't look to be out either. The 787 doesn't actually let you take off without them extended (simplified explanation), so there must be some quite straightforward explanation as to what has caused this.

It's possible the flight deck were commited to take off at V1 decision point but were fucked either way if there was indeed some technical error which caused the aircraft to be unable to climb sufficiently.

This is a terrible incident with surely hundreds of people killed. R.I.P to them all.

 

[alexccfc99]

It's hardly like Air India are a tinpot low cost airline either they are a Star Alliance member and the flag carrier of India so makes it even more of a shock

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Mayday call from pilot cited engine failure, according to some reports. GE Aerospace GEnx engines.

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

It's hardly like Air India are a tinpot low cost airline either they are a Star Alliance member and the flag carrier of India so makes it even more of a shock

Stuff coming out of India saying that the purchase by Tata in 2022 has been followed by numerous cost-cutting measures (which *could* involve maintenance and safety checks, of course). Owned 75% by Tata and 25% Singapore Airlines.

Interesting that Singapore use Rolls-Royce Trent 1000 engines to power their Dreamliner fleet, while their subsidiary Air India use GEnx.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Early to speculate but that would suggest potential pilot error.

Either that or engine trouble which got them past V1 but not V2

 

[Nick]

Awful, I hate flying and I know people say there's more chance of being hit by a bus it just shows that this can still happen

 

[TomRad85]

Is it just me or do there seem to be a lot more plane crashes recently? Or do we just hear about them more? Either way, as an already nervous flyer, i'm really not going to enjoy my next flight.

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Crashed almost immediately after takeoff. The radar data showing it took off at virtually the end of the runway suggests it probably took off with insufficient speed then stalled.

Similar crashes to that in the past with similar causes

Seen a video which shows the plane gliding down to ground level rather than in a steep decline, suggesting engine failure rather than a stall. You can only imagine how hard the pilots were fighting to keep it in the air to avoid buildings, etc. Grim!

 

[Tommo1993]

Was hopeful of their chances before seeing the explosion and what it collided with. Was hoping it was heading toward a clearing on that footage.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Is it just me or do there seem to be a lot more plane crashes recently? Or do we just hear about them more? Either way, as an already nervous flyer, i'm really not going to enjoy my next flight.

Ones of this type are pretty rare nowadays

 

[alexccfc99]

Is it just me or do there seem to be a lot more plane crashes recently? Or do we just hear about them more? Either way, as an already nervous flyer, i'm really not going to enjoy my next flight.

Unfortunately they are not all that uncommon in the Central Asian and Far East area - Nepal, next to India has a dreadful air safety record to the point their planes are banned from European airspace

Most of the incidents over there though are from budget airlines and not reputable ones that fly to and from the UK regularly like in this case

I hate flying, especially taking off and I never fail to wince when I am one one taxiing and getting up in the air - I am flying Malaysian Airlines in November who have obviously had incidents in the past and although I will be absolutely fine the thought in the back of my head will not not be there

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Seen a video which shows the plane gliding down to ground level rather than in a steep decline, suggesting engine failure rather than a stall. You can only imagine how hard the pilots were fighting to keep it in the air to avoid buildings, etc. Grim!

Horrific stuff.

 

[Tommo1993]

Is it just me or do there seem to be a lot more plane crashes recently? Or do we just hear about them more? Either way, as an already nervous flyer, i'm really not going to enjoy my next flight.

We fly on Sunday. I think the Mrs is at home in a bit of a panic…

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

Terrible that this should be your first thought.

It was my second thought after thoughts for the families, but your right to take offence so apologies. Friends of ours regularly travel to that airport in India from Gatwick so wasn't being flippant.
To give full context, I was reacting to X where people are stupidly blaming Boeing which will just antagonise the orange manchild.

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Is it just me or do there seem to be a lot more plane crashes recently? Or do we just hear about them more? Either way, as an already nervous flyer, i'm really not going to enjoy my next flight.

I'm not sure there have, Tom.
This is only the third incident in 2025 involving a plane bigger than about 20 seats. Of the previous two, one crashed on landing and the other caught fire before take-off. There are others that you can't mitigate for, like the one in Washington DC, where a passenger plane collided with a military helicopter which simply should not have been in that airspace.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It was my second thought after thoughts for the families, but your right to take offence so apologies. Friends of ours regularly travel to that airport in India from Gatwick so wasn't being flippant.
To give full context, I was reacting to X where people are stupidly blaming Boeing which will just antagonise the orange manchild.

As much as I despise that man, comments on him are irrelevant to the incident.

 

[TomRad85]

Unfortunately they are not all that uncommon in the Central Asian and Far East area - Nepal, next to India has a dreadful air safety record to the point their planes are banned from European airspace

Most of the incidents over there though are from budget airlines and not reputable ones that fly to and from the UK regularly like in this case

I hate flying, especially taking off and I never fail to wince when I am one one taxiing and getting up in the air - I am flying Malaysian Airlines in November who have obviously had incidents in the past and although I will be absolutely fine the thought in the back of my head will not not be there

I'd avoid dodgy airlines flying around Asia like the plague, you'd genuinely have to sedate me to get me on one of those. Air India is fairly reputable though right? In fact i'm trying to remember who i flew with when work sent me to Bangalore once...

 

[TomRad85]

I'm not sure there have, Tom.
This is only the third incident in 2025 involving a plane bigger than about 20 seats. Of the previous two, one crashed on landing and the other caught fire before take-off. There are others that you can't mitigate for, like the one in Washington DC, where a passenger plane collided with a military helicopter which simply should not have been in that airspace.

I remember the one going into the wall on the runway and the one going into the helicopter.. whatever the reason i've seen way too many images of planes crashing recently.

 

[alexccfc99]

Yeh I'd avoid dodgy airlines flying around Asia like the plague, you'd genuinely have to sedate me to get me on one of those. Air India is fairly reputable though right? In fact i'm trying to remember who i flew with when work sent me to Bangalore once...

In fairness to Malaysian Airlines, MH17 was beyond their control it was shot down by Russian militants flying over the east of Ukraine in the very very early days of the conflict - MH370 remains a complete mystery and I doubt we will ever know what happened to it

And yes, Air India are a star alliance member which means they are committed to the highest standards of safety, they have two flights in and out of BHX a day

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

I wouldn't be very happy flying in Indonesia, where short-haul island-hopping is common, the "airlines" are very low-budget operations and the terrain of the aerodromes is terrifying, leading to high numbers of accidents.

 

[Mcbean]

Watched a video - there were comments that the wings didn’t have the extensions required to climb ? - rest in peace 200 lives a 1000 family members

 

[SkyBlueSoul]

Was hopeful of their chances before seeing the explosion and what it collided with. Was hoping it was heading toward a clearing on that footage.

Appears to have crashed into the hostel part of a medical college so even more lives lost. Absolutely tragic.

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

As much as I despise that man, comments on him are irrelevant to the incident.

Not Trump-related: Boeing does appear to have some kind of cloak of invincibility when it comes to airline safety. There have been so many losses of 737s in particular, and yet they haven't been grounded (other than the Max range, which are still dodgy, in my opinion). Concorde had ONE accident (caused by the French not keeping their airports maintained properly) and it was grounded pretty much terminally!