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quinn1971

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fernandopartridge said:
We had a proper go at it last year, we lost in the last minute of a play off final second leg. What does having a go at it really mean?
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We got play offs last game of the season, to have a proper go you need to be around the top 3 or 4 all season, consistently good, Sunderland got it spot on, just cruised through the last few games And rested everyone, if we don’t add at least a CF we’ll be the same again, I know it was only a dodgy back pass that done us but teams in 5th or 6th don’t normally go up
 
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Lamps

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fernandopartridge said:
We had a proper go at it last year, we lost in the last minute of a play off final second leg. What does having a go at it really mean?
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Not starting badly for starters.

Sunderland were nothing special last season but had momentum with the results. They could then take their foot off the gas when they knew they were 4th.
 
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fernandopartridge

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quinn1971 said:
We got play offs last game of the season, to have a proper go you need to be around the top 3 or 4 all season, consistently good, Sunderland got it spot on, just cruised through the last few games And rested everyone, if we don’t add at least a CF we’ll be the same again, I know it was only a dodgy back pass that done us but teams in 5th or 6th don’t normally go up
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Great, so if we have a proper go we can finish 3rd and lose in the play offs rather than not finishing 3rd but somehow winning them
 
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Perennial Lurker

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There is some real drivel becoming fact on recent threads

Our strikers don't suit our system .....that's despite the last two successful seasons with the same system and same strikers

We have to have a real go this season .....yeah cause we start every season determined to do badly

We need an upgrade on player A , player B ......that's despite recent successful seasons

My personal view is business has been good and in areas that needed more depth , we do need an upgrade on Lati if Perry is an option . And I still think we will loan in 1/2 players for attacking areas .
Our squad isn't as bad as is portrayed by some . If we can keep players fit and others regain confidence then there is no reason we can't be in the mix again . Wouldn't mind losing Bidwell,BTA and Allen if it freed up wages for these loanees and opened up opportunities for the likes of Andrews
 
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quinn1971

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fernandopartridge said:
Explain it then
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I mean it’s quite clear, if we’re going to have a proper go we need a bit more quality than what we’ve got, sneaking the play offs every season and crossing your fingers we make it isn’t the way, we need to be competing up there all season, finishing 3rd or 4th gives you that edge, if were going to be serious about it then it’s not with simms and assante firing blanks,
 
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Perennial Lurker

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quinn1971 said:
I mean it’s quite clear, if we’re going to have a proper go we need a bit more quality than what we’ve got, sneaking the play offs every season and crossing your fingers we make it isn’t the way, we need to be competing up there all season, finishing 3rd or 4th gives you that edge, if were going to be serious about it then it’s not with simms and assante firing blanks,
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So all our recent success in the last three seasons has been a fluke cause we've "sneaked" into two playoffs ?
 
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quinn1971

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Perennial Lurker said:
So all our recent success in the last three seasons has been a fluke cause we've "sneaked" into two playoffs ?
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Said nothing like that, your words, we’ve done brilliant to finish where we have with the squads we’ve had, to go that one step further we need a bit more, that’s all, unless we add a couple more this season it’ll be the same again, we’ll come up short, can’t keep just sneaking a play of spot, that’s obvious
 
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Perennial Lurker

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quinn1971 said:
Said nothing like that, your words, we’ve done brilliant to finish where we have with the squads we’ve had, to go that one step further we need a bit more, that’s all, unless we add a couple more this season it’ll be the same again, we’ll come up short, can’t keep just sneaking a play of spot, that’s obvious
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You don't sneak anything over a 46 game season , that's just ridiculous.And I agree another 2/3 players either on loan or permanent make us more competitive but it's no guarantee either
 
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fernandopartridge

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quinn1971 said:
Said nothing like that, your words, we’ve done brilliant to finish where we have with the squads we’ve had, to go that one step further we need a bit more, that’s all, unless we add a couple more this season it’ll be the same again, we’ll come up short, can’t keep just sneaking a play of spot, that’s obvious
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You only have to get there again, why would you spend more to get to the same place? It is irrelevant if you finish 3rd or 6th
 
Sky Blue Goblin

Sky Blue Goblin

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Perennial Lurker said:
There is some real drivel becoming fact on recent threads

Our strikers don't suit our system .....that's despite the last two successful seasons with the same system and same strikers

We have to have a real go this season .....yeah cause we start every season determined to do badly

We need an upgrade on player A , player B ......that's despite recent successful seasons

My personal view is business has been good and in areas that needed more depth , we do need an upgrade on Lati if Perry is an option . And I still think we will loan in 1/2 players for attacking areas .
Our squad isn't as bad as is portrayed by some . If we can keep players fit and others regain confidence then there is no reason we can't be in the mix again . Wouldn't mind losing Bidwell,BTA and Allen if it freed up wages for these loanees and opened up opportunities for the likes of Andrews
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Since I mention the first one, I don’t think you can argue it’s the same system when we changed the manager.

If you look at the games we’ve played the 4-3-3 can you think of that many decent performances from our strikers, for me maybe Sunderland in the league but that’s it. Although maybe this is more the midfielders being a bit more conservative in their passing unlike Torp for example.

Still a very good squad which I’d back to have a good season but do think a centre back to replace Binks, some competition for Sakamoto and a striker and I think we’d have a very good chance.
 
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quinn1971

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Perennial Lurker said:
You don't sneak anything over a 46 game season , that's just ridiculous.And I agree another 2/3 players either on loan or permanent make us more competitive but it's no guarantee either
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Ok maybe sneak isn’t the word but wev’e got in on the last game of the season twice which considering the starts we’ve had isn’t bad, we just need something more, but you get what I mean, finishing 3rd or 4th def Helps, if that second leg was at ours we’d of gone through
 
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Perennial Lurker

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Sky Blue Goblin said:
Since I mention the first one, I don’t think you can argue it’s the same system when we changed the manager.

If you look at the games we’ve played the 4-3-3 can you think of that many decent performances from our strikers, for me maybe Sunderland in the league but that’s it. Although maybe this is more the midfielders being a bit more conservative in their passing unlike Torp for example.

Still a very good squad which I’d back to have a good season but do think a centre back to replace Binks, some competition for Sakamoto and a striker and I think we’d have a very good chance.
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Like I said I hope certain players can regain form or confidence or both as someone like Simms can score goals at this level and is decent backup for Wright
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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Perennial Lurker said:
Like I said I hope certain players can regain form or confidence or both as someone like Simms can score goals at this level and is decent backup for Wright
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Course they could but I don’t think we play to Simms strengths.

Over this preseason I’ve seen him call for a through ball only to watch us pass back or to the wings instead. All our strikers imo thrive on being more direct but we seem resistant to play those balls under Lampard for whatever reason..

I think it’s a big reason him and BTA were doing well in the 5-3-2
 
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Perennial Lurker

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Sky Blue Goblin said:
Course they could but I don’t think we play to Simms strengths.

Over this preseason I’ve seen him call for a through ball only to watch us pass back or to the wings instead. All our strikers imo thrive on being more direct but we seem resistant to play those balls under Lampard for whatever reason..

I think it’s a big reason him and BTA were doing well in the 5-3-2
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I'm with you I would play both Rudoni and Torp as they look to play the ball early . And yes I think this would benefit Simms as he's always been a better finisher when he doesn't have to think about it or when the ball is in front of him rather than his back to goal
I don't think it is a system failure more a lack of vision or urgency from other players at times
 
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mmttww

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fatso said:
It would be nice for the squad to actually be ready for the start, just once, is that too much too expect.
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We've got cover except LW until Haji's fit. It could be stronger, but it's ready. No squad's ever 'finished'.

It's like a house. You don't notice the masonry around the door is a bit sh*t until you put the new door in.
 
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fernandopartridge

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quinn1971 said:
We got play offs last game of the season, to have a proper go you need to be around the top 3 or 4 all season, consistently good, Sunderland got it spot on, just cruised through the last few games And rested everyone, if we don’t add at least a CF we’ll be the same again, I know it was only a dodgy back pass that done us but teams in 5th or 6th don’t normally go up
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We were fifth in early March 🙄
 
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Chris1987

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quinn1971 said:
I mean it’s quite clear, if we’re going to have a proper go we need a bit more quality than what we’ve got, sneaking the play offs every season and crossing your fingers we make it isn’t the way, we need to be competing up there all season, finishing 3rd or 4th gives you that edge, if were going to be serious about it then it’s not with simms and assante firing blanks,
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Teams don't sneak into play off positions. It's the culmination of a season of games.
 
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