Briles
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Tbh our biggest loss would be Rudoni
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shmmeee
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I don’t think Torp is a replacement at all even if he can play as a ten.
Like I say it depends what you want. If you want to probably get to the playoffs and hope for a miracle then we’re probably OK as is, the jump to top 3/4 and at worst one of the favourites for POs means having a squad you can chop and change as required and not get derailed by an injury or two.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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We have had impact off the bench for ages. We look and go “hey that’s a strong bench” cos it hasn’t got kids on then on 60 mins are like “BTA for Simms??“
Yeah, I agree with you. I think we need more quality in many areas, which is why I think ultimately we will sacrifice some players in other positions that might cause a bit some shock. If we bring in Pereira then that will be 8 midfielders on the books thereabouts. One or two of them can go for money in order to bring in more quality elsewhere, and I am very curious on how that will unravel (if the rumour is true of course).
long way home
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We need to build a stronger squad this idea or assumptions we lose our best players because we buy someone is baffling. At certain times we will develop a player and use a fee to bring in more quality, but the fact we haven't sold anyone yet still are paying fees to sign players should tell us we are building not rebuilding.
Competition within the squad has to be what FL and DK wants. We do have players that need to be moved on which is hard but Allen, Collins, Bidwell, Binks and Simms would be my way not Rudoni, Milan, Tatsu or Grimes. You strengthen by replacing the bottom of the squad more often than cashing in on the top.
Competition within the squad has to be what FL and DK wants. We do have players that need to be moved on which is hard but Allen, Collins, Bidwell, Binks and Simms would be my way not Rudoni, Milan, Tatsu or Grimes. You strengthen by replacing the bottom of the squad more often than cashing in on the top.
BlueSkiesForever
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Yeah I agree with you there, needs to be a good balance in the squad with the types of players we have. As much as I don’t rate Eccles I’d ideally keep him as he’s a versatile player, he should just be more of a bench option these days rather than a weekly starter with the quality we have and the level we’re aiming for. I’d 100% ship Allen off if someone would have him, if Pereira came in we’d have a great midfield, don’t think Allen really offers much at this level these days.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Let's revisit this at the end of the transfer window.
Mucca Mad Boys
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Squad harmony is a consideration that’s being overlooked here.
How many minutes will a 5th choice CM actually make? Particularly when Grimes has barely missed a game in 5-6 seasons.
Eccles is too good to be a 5th choice but not good enough to start with the options we have. If there’s concrete interest, he’ll definitely want to leave.
On the other hand, Allen is v much ok being a backup player.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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You've got it right with the squad harmony, but Eccles isn't the only one that will be in that predicament. if Pereira comes in, who are you picking to start in midfield?
Matt smith
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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So we are going to sign a player for 3 million to sit on the bench?
Mucca Mad Boys
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Frankly, I don’t know anything about Pereira and his style of play so have no idea where he fits in.
With Torp and Sheaf, they almost definitely will miss a portion of the season so there is a real need to have 4-5 options at CM.
I don’t think we’ll sell Sheaf and there’s supposedly noteworthy interest in Eccles. Realistically, if there’s going to be any outgoings in that department, it’ll be either of those two.
Allen is a non-factor in the sense he’s v much a solid backup who can come in and do a job without expecting to play every game.
Matt smith
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Yes. Welcome to trying to get into the premier league
not like he’s not going to play is it
one injury or suspension and he’s in for sure, let alone squad rotation
Trueskyblue20
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Arguably Sheaf was valued around £10-£15m last year and would be over £5m this year so you would assume Pereira wouldn’t just be gifted a starting spot based on the fact he’s a £3m player.
Matt smith
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We need a ball carrying midfield player anyway he’s slightly different to what we’ve got I think
It isn’t that wild
Matt smith
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BTA cost about 3 million
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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It is. It's batshit.
Our fans just cannot deal with the idea of selling or benching Sheaf, which has become pretty evident from this thread!
If we are signing a 3 million pound player in central midfield, he is going to be playing.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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BTA cost about 3 million
Not really a fair comparison though, is it? He's a striker.
ccfc1234
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Would really like to see some outward sales at this point.
Collins
Wilson
Eccles (for a decent fee)
Bidwell
BTA (for a decent fee)
Lati (for a fee)
Rafael (loan or sale)
If we could bring in 8 million + saved wages from the above and reinvest in a GK, CB and a couple of Chelsa loan players that would be ideal.
Collins
Wilson
Eccles (for a decent fee)
Bidwell
BTA (for a decent fee)
Lati (for a fee)
Rafael (loan or sale)
If we could bring in 8 million + saved wages from the above and reinvest in a GK, CB and a couple of Chelsa loan players that would be ideal.
Matt smith
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It’s because we’ve always had a good 11 in the championship but nothing else
soon as we sign some quality competition fans are opposed to it, after asking for investment
soon as we sign some quality competition fans are opposed to it, after asking for investment
Matt smith
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Eccles is a 3 million pound player.
thats a fair comparison
would you start him?
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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2023 - worth 20-25 million and going to a top PL club.
2024 - worth 15 million and going to a lower PL club.
2025 - worth 5 million and going to a heavyweight Championship club.
Why is he still here if he is that good? Why are we spending millions to bring in another central midfielder despite this?
I honestly don't think some of you can see what is in front of you.
Matt smith
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Let’s just have a good 11 then and when we get an injury or two we struggle massively.
A 3 million pound signing doesn’t just walk into our team I’m sorry. That’s testament to the club and where it is
long way home
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Yes ask, Dovin, BTA, Simms, Tatsu, Kitching, thats what progressive clubs do....We are competing for promotion to the premier league FFS Not midlands combination.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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He wasn't worth 3 million when we signed him. Your closest comparison would be Grimes, who was signed for around 3 - 4 million, and he is probably one of the first names on the team sheet.
What is an acceptable fee for someone to be on the bench?
Is Simms not allowed on the bench because he cost more than 3m?
We should drop Saka to the bench and play BTA as he cost 3m.
You need a squad. We had to bring on Allen in the play offs last year ffs
Matt smith
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Won’t it be brilliant knowing if sheaf picks up a classic injury it’s him coming on and not relying on players like Allen, who has been great for us but he’s not at the level.
3 game weeks, few changes without affecting the quality.
fernandopartridge
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In the second half of the game the other day I heard one of the coaches or somebody on the side telling Bidwell to stay in the three when we were in possession
I think you’re really just hyper fixated on Sheaf. You, I, We dont need to worry about squad harmony. There’s people who are paid to do that.
There will absolutely be outgoings, likely 1 or 2 of the midfielders, and with that we could end up with a really well balanced squad with real strength in depth.
Modern football quite simply isnt just about having a best 11 and fielding that by default every single game. Each opposition presents different challenges and so each week the starting 11 is likely to be tinkered with, add onto that that the championship fixtures tend to congest themselves tightly every month or two. There will be injuries, dips in form and suspensions to deal with and thats exactly why you build a squad, not an 11.
on top of that again, not all midfielders are the same either.
In my opinion, we’ll see rotation of the midfield very often next year, with Sheaf (if he isnt sold), Torp, Grimes, this new guy (if he signs) and Rudoni all playing a large number of games.
Ideally we’ll see Eccles andAllen moved on as the weaker of the remaining central midfielders.
And just say that ive got that exactly right come september 1st. Would you be dissatisfied with that?
Ccfcisparks
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Not sure anyone can argue that we need good quality in depth.
If pereira signed tomorrow I’d still bank on Sheaf starting against Hull
If pereira signed tomorrow I’d still bank on Sheaf starting against Hull
There were people on here after we signed Grimes arguing that Sheaf would be benched, only for him to play every game once fit
What is evident is that he only manages 30-35 games, ideally he wouldn’t start twice in a week. To compensate for that you need solid backups
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Dovin is number 1
Kitching is one of the first choice defenders on the team sheet, and was largely only omitted due to his own poor performances under Robins.
BTA, Simms, and Tatsu all play in positions which command higher fees, and therefore is not a comparison on value. Even without this, the latter two are regular starters anyway.
If we sign a central midfielder for several million pounds, he will be brought in with the idea that he is going to be a regular starter.
Put the beers down Mr Midland Combination.
Mucca Mad Boys
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It’s possible. Torp is a £2m signing and hasn’t ever been considered a first choice yet in 1.5 seasons.
We also spent 2.5m on Bassette. On top of £7.7m for Wright and £3m initial for Simms. We’ve spent £15-16m on strikers and we’ve predominantly played a formation with 1 striker.
Before anyone says Wright was a LW, we signed EMC for £4.25m. So take your pick which multimillion pound forward sits on the bench.
Gone are the days where we have a bench filled with loanees and free agents.
Hutch11
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I dont know what Eccles has to do to be considered a quality back up.
The guy was superb at the beginning of last season and in the play off semi at Sunderland, he gets so much unjust hate on here
Ccfcisparks
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as a role player we arent going to get much better to be hoenst