Transfer Rumour 25/26 Summer Transfer Window (143 Viewers)

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Being exceedingly greedy I'd like another winger too.

Is that greedy? I'd say it's probably a priority position. Excluding Raphael as I'd imagine he'll be loaned out we currently only have two outright wingers.

 

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[Yorkshire SB]

Imagine it would be the 3-1-6 shape we played towards the end of the season. From the 4-2-3-1

Thomas - Grimes - Kitching
Pereira
MVE - Sakamoto - Rudoni - EMC - JDS
Wright

Unless we’re selling Sheaf he’s going to start though isn’t he

 

[wingy]

Who's going to be first out of the deadwood,and who's going to be first out of Robins and Ady to come a calling?

 

[Winny the Bish]

Who's going to be first out of the deadwood,and who's going to be first out of Robins and Ady to come a calling?

Think Robins would take Binks and probably Bidwell too.
Adi was the one who loved Eccles, right?

 

[wingy]

Think Robins would take Binks and probably Bidwell too.
Adi was the one who loved Eccles, right?

That's what I recall.

 

[fernandopartridge]

His discipline looks interesting.

37 yellow cards and 3 reds in 5 years...

We've missed Hamer's Latin American edge

 

[David O'Day]

Imagine it would be the 3-1-6 shape we played towards the end of the season. From the 4-2-3-1

Thomas - Grimes - Kitching
Pereira
MVE - Sakamoto - Rudoni - EMC - JDS
Wright

yep. new trend 5 in this video

 

[mark82]

So because Sheaf doesn’t play enough games, we should replace him with someone who has played a similar amount in a far less intense league? Interesting.

Of course it wasn’t you who made the original point but you’ve jumped in for a reason I assume

I wouldn't sell Sheaf. Still think he's one of the best midfielders in the division.

 

[skybluecam]

what is the contract situation with Sheaf then?

Don't want him leaving on a free.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Wouldn’t sell Sheaf this summer. He had a poor campaign last year so his value won’t be at its peak. A good season and a year left on his contract and we would get better money next year.

 

[Martw]

what is the contract situation with Sheaf then?

Don't want him leaving on a free.

I believe he is entering his last year but the club have an option to extend by a further year. So, in negotiations we would be claiming he has two years left which ought to help keep his price up

 

[Saddlebrains]

Weve got a 1 year option on Sheaf which we would of course activate next summer

 

[Matt smith]

Grimes
Sheaf
Pereira
Torp
Rudoni

that’s a filthy midfield

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Grimes
Sheaf
Pereira
Torp
Rudoni

that’s a filthy midfield

Just need a top striker

 

[Hullinho87]

Rather keep Eccles than Allen personally.

Winger sounds like a good prospect. All of our wingers look good on highlight reels though, we still need to find a way to make more chances per game somehow.

Didn’t we have a top 3 chance creation rate in the league last season?

But close to a bottom 3 conversion rate. It’s taking the chances at critical points in games, that’s the problem, less creating them.

 

[skybluecam]

Didn’t we have a top 3 chance creation rate in the league last season?

But close to a bottom 3 conversion rate. It’s taking the chances at critical points in games, that’s the problem, less creating them.View attachment 44596

Simms and Bassette's conversion rates were particularly appalling.

 

[Matt smith]

Just need a top striker

Be the big one of the summer

feel we need a sale and then we’ll go big

 

[Matt smith]

Be the big one of the summer

feel we need a sale and then we’ll go big

Classic @Ccfcisparks

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Some of you are too sentimental to see it, but the midfield problem is real, particularly regarding Sheaf. We have Grimes now, who is the better player. Whilst it can definitely work if we opt/need to play defensively, the two of them together really limit our forward play. If we are going to do that this season for the majority of the time then we aren't going anywhere - particularly across the halfway line with any potency.

People seem keen to want to move Eccles on, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. He is an ideal squad player that fits into the overall team much better, and can play the defensive role when we need it. The desire to shoe horn Sheaf into the team (which is what we would be doing) is going to set us back. We saw it at the end of last season. You also have the problem that he is injury prone, and a poor captain. Unless he is happy to be on the bench then I think we are missing what is right in front of us with the midfield, and he should be the one to make way.

A player alongside Grimes that is better going forward is crucial for us. Torp is certainly capable, but I have some questions over his defensive ability (and injury record as well for that matter). Someone like Pereira could therefore be more appropriate, but I'm not entirely sure how good he is. We are probably along the right lines though.

 

[Bigelvesy]

Let's be honest if we get him in and fucked Eccles and Allen off thats fantastic business

Andrews coming through also

Hopefully Rushworth comes to fruition and we're only a CB and ST short of making a real go

Couldnt agree more.
Im very excited by the prospect of this guy. I think he’s going to be the Hamer replacement we’ve been talking about for 2 years

 

[Martw]

Not a rumour but just seen that SWFC have mutually agreed to terminate the contracts of Michael Smith and Josh Windass, that club is in the biggest of messes. I know there were problems for Kasey Palmer but I will believe that 99% of their fan base aren't racists and for those fans I have every sympathy for what they are going through due to a woefully inadequate piece of crap their owner truly is, something we know only too well..

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Some of you are too sentimental to see it, but the midfield problem is real, particularly regarding Sheaf. We have Grimes now, who is the better player. Whilst it can definitely work if we opt/need to play defensively, the two of them together really limit our forward play. If we are going to do that this season for the majority of the time then we aren't going anywhere - particularly across the halfway line with any potency.

People seem keen to want to move Eccles on, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. He is an ideal squad player that fits into the overall team much better, and can play the defensive role when we need it. The desire to shoe horn Sheaf into the team (which is what we would be doing) is going to set us back. We saw it at the end of last season. You also have the problem that he is injury prone, and a poor captain. Unless he is happy to be on the bench then I think we are missing what is right in front of us with the midfield, and he should be the one to make way.

A player alongside Grimes that is better going forward is crucial for us. Torp is certainly capable, but I have some questions over his defensive ability (and injury record as well for that matter). Someone like Pereira could therefore be more appropriate, but I'm not entirely sure how good he is. We are probably along the right lines though.

If Eccles leaves, it’ll be because he wants first team football. In terms of where Lampard views the squad, Sheaf and Grimes are his main two, followed by Torp. This is awkward for Eccles because he was a starter under the previous regime and if a team wants to spend a few million on him, that’s good business. It’s all positive cash flow from a FFP perspective which at some point we’ll need to be mindful of. You can’t knock Eccles in the big games and be made a big difference v Sunderland. Overall, Sheaf is better defensively, Torp is better as a playmaker and Grimes is better as a distributor. Where his niche?

I like Eccles, he’s a solid player but if we’re signing another midfielder, it’s mostly likely going to be him who would be going the other way.

 

[CovRes]

If Eccles leaves, it’ll be because he wants first team football. In terms of where Lampard views the squad, Sheaf and Grimes are his main two, followed by Torp. This is awkward for Eccles because he was a starter under the previous regime and if a team wants to spend a few million on him, that’s good business. It’s all positive cash flow from a FFP perspective which at some point we’ll need to be mindful of. You can’t knock Eccles in the big games and be made a big difference v Sunderland. Overall, Sheaf is better defensively, Torp is better as a playmaker and Grimes is better as a distributor. Where his niche?

I like Eccles, he’s a solid player but if we’re signing another midfielder, it’s mostly likely going to be him who would be going the other way.

Most likely Eccles and not Allen?

 

[covcity4life]

Didn’t we have a top 3 chance creation rate in the league last season?

But close to a bottom 3 conversion rate. It’s taking the chances at critical points in games, that’s the problem, less creating them.View attachment 44596

Can't really argue with stats

But I will lol. Nah it's just I never felt like we cut teams open for our chances. I might be remembering it incorrectly though

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Just need a top striker

Is Haji Wright not a top striker?!

For me, it’s out wide that we need more goals and assists. EMC needs to have a 10+ goal season and Sakamoto needs close to 10 assists (or improve his goal scoring) if he is going to be the starting RW.

Saka scored 4 goals with an xG of 3.11 last season which isn’t really good enough for a winger in a team looking to improve on a top 5 team. Particularly if we’re playing 1 striker.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Most likely Eccles and not Allen?

Yes because not only have we just renewed Allen’s contract, why would Eccles want to be 4-5th choice when he can be a starter elsewhere?

With Allen, he isn’t going to be a starter at many championship clubs (if any) so will be happy being a bit part player for us. If someone wanted to buy Allen, I’d be open to selling him but he’s a consummate professional who at the v least is a good presence around the squad.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Didn’t we have a top 3 chance creation rate in the league last season?

But close to a bottom 3 conversion rate. It’s taking the chances at critical points in games, that’s the problem, less creating them.View attachment 44596

What did that table look post-Lampard?

A general trend was that we created a slightly higher xG under Robins but under Lampard, the xG was lower but the ‘per shot xG’ was slightly higher. Which means we created less chances post-Robins but they were better quality.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

If Eccles leaves, it’ll be because he wants first team football. In terms of where Lampard views the squad, Sheaf and Grimes are his main two, followed by Torp. This is awkward for Eccles because he was a starter under the previous regime and if a team wants to spend a few million on him, that’s good business. It’s all positive cash flow from a FFP perspective which at some point we’ll need to be mindful of. You can’t knock Eccles in the big games and be made a big difference v Sunderland. Overall, Sheaf is better defensively, Torp is better as a playmaker and Grimes is better as a distributor. Where his niche?

I like Eccles, he’s a solid player but if we’re signing another midfielder, it’s mostly likely going to be him who would be going the other way.

I am not sure you have that right to be honest. That is especially qualified if we are looking to bring in Pereira. Why would you do that if you were settled on a main two? You wouldn't. It strikes me as Grimes being number one, with the jury out on the others - including Sheaf. Like I said, I think sentiment is getting in the way here and clouding logic.

Let's humour it and say you are right though. Eccles goes. What then with Grimes, Pereira, and Sheaf? You have questioned why Eccles would want to stay if he was 4th/5th choice, but surely that would be the same for Sheaf when you add Rudoni into the mix, and perhaps Torp. Unless you play a three with Grimes, Pereira, and Sheaf all together - which doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.

I have no idea if these rumours are true or not, but it looks like the next few weeks could be interesting!

 

[Hullinho87]

What did that table look post-Lampard?

A general trend was that we created a slightly higher xG under Robins but under Lampard, the xG was lower but the ‘per shot xG’ was slightly higher. Which means we created less chances post-Robins but they were better quality.

Unsure of that split but what we do know is that we had 34 shots v Sunderland over 2 games and we didn’t really look clinical at any point.

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

Let's humour it and say you are right though. Eccles goes. What then with Grimes, Pereira, and Sheaf? You have questioned why Eccles would want to stay if he was 4th/5th choice, but surely that would be the same for Sheaf when you add Rudoni into the mix, and perhaps Torp. Unless you play a three with Grimes, Pereira, and Sheaf all together - which doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.

(Just assuming we can find teams willing to take any player we wish to offload), surely the pecking order of first to go is Allen, then Eccles, then Sheaf, then Torp? I’d be happy to see Allen or Eccles go if we bring in a new midfielder tbh.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

(Just assuming we can find teams willing to take any player we wish to offload), surely the pecking order of first to go is Allen, then Eccles, then Sheaf, then Torp? I’d be happy to see Allen or Eccles go if we bring in a new midfielder tbh.

I agree with your opening point about finding teams to take the players, which is seemingly going to be necessary if we are in fact bringing new midfielders in. I am curious with how it will work. Many on here talk about Sheaf going to play at a higher level for three years now, but still he hasn't attracted that kind of attention. If you could get a really handsome sum for him though, would you take it if we could reinvest?

It will probably be easier to place a player like Eccles or Allen, as the expectations are a bit more realistic, but how is that going to work for the team overall? I think some are forgetting a balanced squad is really important and if you are overloaded, or have too many players that think they should be playing every minute, then you end up with an unhappy squad. If Pereira does come in, you then entertain some of the suggestions we have seen such as Rudoni being sacrificed or moved out of position to accommodate Sheaf. That doesn't make sense either.

I know we have no idea what is going to happen, but I am sure the club have a plan. Looking forward to the next few weeks.

 

[shmmeee]

I am not sure you have that right to be honest. That is especially qualified if we are looking to bring in Pereira. Why would you do that if you were settled on a main two? You wouldn't. It strikes me as Grimes being number one, with the jury out on the others - including Sheaf. Like I said, I think sentiment is getting in the way here and clouding logic.

Let's humour it and say you are right though. Eccles goes. What then with Grimes, Pereira, and Sheaf? You have questioned why Eccles would want to stay if he was 4th/5th choice, but surely that would be the same for Sheaf when you add Rudoni into the mix, and perhaps Torp. Unless you play a three with Grimes, Pereira, and Sheaf all together - which doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.

I have no idea if these rumours are true or not, but it looks like the next few weeks could be interesting!

Well need more than 11 players of the right quality if we want to finish higher than 5th IMO.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Well need more than 11 players of the right quality if we want to finish higher than 5th IMO.

The bench was far too weak for forward players. BTA is not a winger.

The way we play, you need 4-5 wingers capable of making an impact. We have 2.

 

[shmmeee]

The bench was far too weak for forward players. BTA is not a winger.

The way we play, you need 4-5 wingers capable of making an impact. We have 2.

We have had impact off the bench for ages. We look and go “hey that’s a strong bench” cos it hasn’t got kids on then on 60 mins are like “BTA for Simms?? “

 

[shmmeee]

You just don’t know where you’ll get hit either. We could lose a CB on opening day for the season and be left with Lats or Binks like we were Wilson and Collins or Simms and BTA when Wrighr and EMC were out. The drop off is too big in most areas of the pitch.