Transfer Rumour 25/26 Summer Transfer Window (53 Viewers)

mmttww

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The exact same stuff was said about Tyrese Campbell and Keiffer Moore last summer. 2 free 'unexciting' strikers who've lead their side to promotion (well soon hopefully), while we were spunking needless money on BTA.

It's not like we'd have paid Moore's wages is it? and he scored 6 goals while Campbell got 10. Hamer scored 10 with seven assists. I don't think either of the first two 'led them' to where they are.

Asante didn't make much sense at the time and hasn't made sense since. Sounds like he was an MR signing - had tried for him before - so I'm not gonna hold that against Austin and co. too much.

Riis I could understand to an extent being a free transfer, coming off a decent season and being an ok age at 26. If we can find better, great. If not, his wages won't be mad so I can see the sense in it.
 

TomRad85

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It's not like we'd have paid Moore's wages is it? and he scored 6 goals while Campbell got 10. Hamer scored 10 with seven assists. I don't think either of the first two 'led them' to where they are.

Asante didn't make much sense at the time and hasn't made sense since. Sounds like he was an MR signing - had tried for him before - so I'm not gonna hold that against Austin and co. too much.

Riis I could understand to an extent being a free transfer, coming off a decent season and being an ok age at 26. If we can find better, great. If not, his wages won't be mad so I can see the sense in it.
Eh? Campbell has been brilliant for them and Moore has been more than useful when called upon. Both walk into the striker position in this team.
 

mmttww

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Eh? Campbell has been brilliant for them and Moore has been more than useful when called upon. Both walk into the striker position in this team.

OK, but it's not like we're ever going to pay the kind of wages Moore is on so I don't see the point in using that as a stick to beat us with, or as an example we should follow. We have a pretty tight wage structure.

Looking at Campbell's mins per goal, I take the point but I don't think Utd are where they are because those two carried them. They threw parachute cash at loads of players and hoped it would stick.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Eh? Campbell has been brilliant for them and Moore has been more than useful when called upon. Both walk into the striker position in this team.

Just a reminder that Moore’s minutes per goal is worse than Simms. He absolutely wouldn’t walk into this team.

Haji Wright is light years ahead of Moore and has scored more goals than Campbell in less games.

Seriously, there’s been some horrific takes on here lately.
 

TomRad85

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OK, but it's not like we're ever going to pay the kind of wages Moore is on so I don't see the point in using that as a stick to beat us with, or as an example we should follow. We have a pretty tight wage structure.

Looking at Campbell's mins per goal, I take the point but I don't think Utd are where they are because those two carried them. They threw parachute cash at loads of players and hoped it would stick.
I think you're missing the point, the same people sneering at known quantities like Riis, who would imo represent a good bit of business are the same people who thought we were above the likes of Campbell and Moore. We weren't. You are arguing something totally different now.
 

mmttww

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I think you're missing the point, the same people sneering at known quantities like Riis, who would imo represent a good bit of business are the same people who thought we were above the likes of Campbell and Moore. We weren't. You are arguing something totally different now.

If your argument is that we should have tried for Moore, I don't get it. If your argument is Riis could be a similar option but one we could afford, I get it.

I don't agree that those two signings carried them or led them to where they are. Having silly money to gamble on silly wages across the squad did that.

and they might not go up and be a bit f*cked.
 

TomRad85

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Perhaps, we all drop clangers. Not many will top this strange obsession with mid-players such as Bundu, Campbell and Moore.
It's not an obsession, Christ the people on this forum are fucking tedious. It's the notion that every player we bring in will be some Hamer quality unknown from overseas. If we want a good squad we need to look at the free market and be smart, we cannot spend millions on everyone, players like Riis represent decent value. If you sell BTA for £3 million and bring in Riis on a free, you've played a blinder.
As for Campbell being mid at this level.. well i'm not sure what to say, he's been far from mid and was exactly the kind of competitive forward we needed the other night rather than Wright ambling around doing fuck all as the only other option was Simms who looks like he's addicted to horse tranquilisers.
 

TomRad85

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If your argument is that we should have tried for Moore, I don't get it. If your argument is Riis could be a similar option but one we could afford, I get it.

I don't agree that those two signings carried them or led them to where they are. Having silly money to gamble on silly wages across the squad did that.

and they might not go up and be a bit f*cked.
Fucking hell man, as i said, tedious forum.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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It's not an obsession, Christ the people on this forum are fucking tedious. It's the notion that every player we bring in will be some Hamer quality unknown from overseas. If we want a good squad we need to look at the free market and be smart, we cannot spend millions on everyone, players like Riis represent decent value. If you sell BTA for £3 million and bring in Riis on a free, you've played a blinder.
As for Campbell being mid at this level.. well i'm not sure what to say, he's been far from mid and was exactly the kind of competitive forward we needed the other night rather than Wright ambling around doing fuck all as the only other option was Simms who looks like he's addicted to horse tranquilisers.

Apologies, I meant Morris rather than Campbell! Corrected.

Agreed that you have to make use of free agency, but I think many on here are throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Lampard will obviously look to build the squad in his image but he’s not going to fundamentally gut the team and start again. His remit, to an extent, will be work with what he’s got and to improve players like Simms, Wright, Thomas, Kitch, Torp, Rudoni, EMC, MVE, Sakamoto, Dovin and so on.

Forward players like Rudoni and EMC have prospered under Lampard but other forwards (all the strikers) have struggled to make an impact in his 4-2-3-1 system. That will be evaluated in the off-season.
 

TomRad85

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Apologies, I meant Morris rather than Campbell!
Ok fair.. i think Morris would be better than Simms but that's a low bar, he's not available on a free and certainly not someone i'd be looking at buying. Think we're moving away from the point of the thread and its descended into meaningless back and forth so i'll end that there.
 

mmttww

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Fucking hell man, as i said, tedious forum.

because someone doesn't agree with you?

Talking to people like they're thick because they don't agree Moore and Campbell led a team to 3rd place is a bit weird. Both had the League's best player behind them and I count at least 10 players in their squad who will be on more than our highest earner.

Maybe Campbell was a good pick up in hindsight, doesn't mean fans of this club didn't have a point if they preferred other options at the time. He's a 1 in 5 striker and this season is the first time he's hit 10 goals in the league. Hardly a hot take to pass on him.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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because someone doesn't agree with you?

Talking to people like they're thick because they don't agree Moore and Campbell led a team to 3rd place is a bit weird. Utd had the League's best player behind them and I count at least 10 players in their squad who will be on more than our highest earner.

Maybe Campbell was a good pick up in hindsight, doesn't mean fans of this club didn't have a point if they preferred other options at the time. He's a 1 in 5 striker and this season is the first time he's hit 10 goals in the league. Hardly a hot take to pass on him.

Haji Wright was the league’s 6th top scorer (joint) with the least amount played of the lot (barring Maja). If he isn’t scoring, the chances are is that it’s not him who is the problem.

As you say, this is a career best season for Campbell playing in a team that’s top 3. Stick him in our team, he probably doesn’t score as many goals.
 

TomRad85

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because someone doesn't agree with you?

Talking to people like they're thick because they don't agree Moore and Campbell led a team to 3rd place is a bit weird. Both had the League's best player behind them and I count at least 10 players in their squad who will be on more than our highest earner.

Maybe Campbell was a good pick up in hindsight, doesn't mean fans of this club didn't have a point if they preferred other options at the time. He's a 1 in 5 striker and this season is the first time he's hit 10 goals in the league. Hardly a hot take to pass on him.
I only talk to people like they are thick when they are being tbf. You've really taken this 'led the team to 3rd place' thing and ran with it, it's weird. They are the forwards that have played for the team miles ahead of all but 2 of the teams in the league, they were also exactly the kind of signings people on here were sneering at last summer, and we're just seeing it repeat again. We'll need a couple of Championship experienced pros and we can't pay out for all of them.
Seems like you even agree Riis would be a decent signing so its proper weird to get your knickers in a twist about it. Not sure what your point is about Sheffield Uniteds wage bill either, totally irrelevant stuff.
 

TomRad85

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Haji Wright was the league’s 6th top scorer (joint) with the least amount played of the lot (barring Maja). If he isn’t scoring, the chances are is that it’s not him who is the problem.

As you say, this is a career best season for Campbell playing in a team that’s top 3. Stick him in our team, he probably doesn’t score as many goals.
Wright is better off the left, he's weak down the middle. Campbell starts in this team all day, i can't believe anyone could pay attention to the league this season and suggest he wouldn't really.
 

SBT

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Understandably so, but think the raw emotion of how the two Sunderland games played out have coloured a lot of opinions (Wright must go! Eccles must stay! Big lumps up front!) that may not be all that relevant for next season.
 

TomRad85

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Understandably so, but think the raw emotion of how the two Sunderland games played out have coloured a lot of opinions (Wright must go! Eccles must stay! Big lumps up front!) that may not be all that relevant for next season.
I think Wright should stay unless we receive a hefty bid, but i'm not sure i want to see him played down the middle again too often. Some of the most criminal performances i've ever seen.
 

mmttww

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I only talk to people like they are thick when they are being tbf. You've really taken this 'led the team to 3rd place' thing and ran with it, it's weird. They are the forwards that have played for the team miles ahead of all but 2 of the teams in the league, they were also exactly the kind of signings people on here were sneering at last summer, and we're just seeing it repeat again. We'll need a couple of Championship experienced pros and we can't pay out for all of them.
Seems like you even agree Riis would be a decent signing so its proper weird to get your knickers in a twist about it. Not sure what your point is about Sheffield Uniteds wage bill either, totally irrelevant stuff.

Cannon scored as many goals as Campbell and played more minutes. Hamer scored as many goals as Campbell from midfield. Making out that Moore and Campbell made a massive difference looks like an oversimplification to suit your argument.

You say the wage bill point is irrelevant when it's exactly the reason Moore wasn't an option for us. You say people turned their noses up Campbell? All the evidence is that was a good shout. He had a decent season in a good team.

Feels like you decided I'm thick because I replied to what you said and disagreed? I can live with that.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Wright is better off the left, he's weak down the middle. Campbell starts in this team all day, i can't believe anyone could pay attention to the league this season and suggest he wouldn't really.

Rewind one year ago and he had 3 goals in 29 appearances. His record at Stoke, for reference, tracks behind Simms’ career record. 33 goals in 155 appearances before he joined Sheff U.

I’m using Simms as a benchmark because if these strikers will improve us, why are records worse than a player many people think is terrible?
 

TomRad85

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Cannon scored as many goals as Campbell and played more minutes. Hamer scored as many goals as Campbell from midfield. Making out that Moore and Campbell made a massive difference looks like an oversimplification to suit your argument.

You say the wage bill point is irrelevant when it's exactly the reason Moore wasn't an option for us. You say people turned their noses up Campbell? All the evidence is that was a good shout. He had a decent season in a good team.

Feels like you've decided I'm thick because I replied to something you said and disagreed? I can live with that.
I haven't decided you are thick, i've decided you are incredibly tedious as you've twisted the conversation to the point i'm not even sure what you are arguing about to be honest. Move on please for all our sakes.
 

TomRad85

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Rewind one year ago and he had 3 goals in 29 appearances. His record at Stoke, for reference, tracks behind Simms’ career record. 33 goals in 155 appearances before he joined Sheff U.

I’m using Simms as a benchmark because if these strikers will improve us, why are records worse than a player many people think is terrible?
If you're arguing Simms is a better option up front than Tyrese Campbell then there's nowhere to go from here mate.
 

shmmeee

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Promise David definitely worth a look for me, think he would be great for us at 9.


Ball doesn’t bounce six feet from him on his first touch: sold!
 

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