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Look no further than McFadzean playing in a back 3. Clearly very little pace in his legs but he had great positional awareness, communication and aerial strength.
Look no further than McFadzean playing in a back 3. Clearly very little pace in his legs but he had great positional awareness, communication and aerial strength.This notion that you need to be rapid to be a good centre half is bullshit peddled by people that have never played the game.
II would rather have a slower centre half who can read the game and is excellent positionally than a quick centre half who struggles with those attributes
This notion that you need to be rapid to be a good centre half is bullshit peddled by people that have never played the game.
II would rather have a slower centre half who can read the game and is excellent positionally than a quick centre half who struggles with those attributes
Don’t agree. If his desire is to stay in or around his homeland, why would he opt to sign for us if we offered him a bit more? Don’t buy players that don’t really want to be here!!!Penny pinching by Bling costing us a top target.
Look no further than McFadzean playing in a back 3. Clearly very little pace in his legs but he had great positional awareness, communication and aerial strength.
For the past 3 seasons we objectively haven't been a mid table side.
Anderlecht are in the Belgian top league and in Europe this season …. It’s not a no brainer to join a tier 2 English club … it’s arrogant to assume it is.Don’t agree. If his desire is to stay in or around his homeland, why would he opt to sign for us if we offered him a bit more? Don’t buy players that don’t really want to be here!!!
In fairness, £5m is more than £3m. I don't think he's worth £10m though, and we can't afford £10m on a defender so it's moot anyway. A loan with an option/obligation to buy if promoted is entirely possible though.
were they asked to play such a high line and leave so much space in behind them? noExhibit A. Paul McGrath
Exhibit B. Trevor Peake
Bauer has none of these attributes.Look no further than McFadzean playing in a back 3. Clearly very little pace in his legs but he had great positional awareness, communication and aerial strength.
Why does it matter what level I’ve played at? I’ve been involved in coaching and management at semi pro level, but honestly, you only need a good understanding of the game, even at Sunday league etc, to appreciate that positioning, reading the game, and communication are more important fundamentals for a centre-back than raw pace.And what level have you played at out of curiosity?
In this high line system lampard plays, it would be pretty silly to not target a CB with pace.
Penny pinching by Bling costing us a top target.
Well I'd imagine we wouldn't belooking at a defender who can't defend.Why does it matter what level I’ve played at? I’ve been involved in coaching and management at semi pro level, but honestly, you only need a good understanding of the game, even at Sunday league etc, to appreciate that positioning, reading the game, and communication are more important fundamentals for a centre-back than raw pace.
Pace is a useful attribute, but it’s a supplement, not a substitute, for defensive intelligence. Take players like John Terry (as an elite example), he was not exactly pacey, but he was effective because of his ability to anticipate danger, organise the line, and stay switched on.
In the Championship, where the pace of the game is high but the technical quality can be erratic, the ability to maintain shape and leadership at the back often makes the difference. A high line will always carry risk, even with quick defenders, because one mistimed step or lapse in concentration and you’re caught out. That’s where structure and communication are crucial.
So yes, pace helps, but if your defenders can’t mark properly, coordinate the line, or react to transitions, they’ll get exposed regardless of how fast they are
So yes, pace helps
This doesn't matter to some fans unfortunately.Anderlecht are in the Belgian top league and in Europe this season …. It’s not a no brainer to join a tier 2 English club … it’s arrogant to assume it is.
That wasn’t my point. All I’m saying is a defender with pace is a bonus, but pointless without the key attributes I have mentioned.Well I'd imagine we wouldn't belooking at a defender who can't defend.
We will loan a young CB from the prem and/or pick up a Torp-like player with potential to develop. We won't be splashing big money on anyone.
Or 4 Luis Binks...It’s grossly irresponsible to drop £10m on a CB in our position no matter how good he is. You could realistically get 4 really good players for that and we have depth problems in multiple areas.
We aren’t spending that, it’s not even an actual rumourIt’s grossly irresponsible to drop £10m on a CB in our position no matter how good he is. You could realistically get 4 really good players for that and we have depth problems in multiple areas.
We all dream of a team of Luis BinksOr 4 Luis Binks...
Is that a hintAre you sure !!
Might live to regret that comment in next 48 hours or so.
You’re missing the point entirely.Yes you do not have to have to have pace to be a great CB and there have many great CBs who were not quick. The point people are making is the system we play has a very high defensive line which leaves lots of space in behind them so a quicker CB is more suited to playing in this system as they can recover quicker when the play goes in behind them.
We’re upper mid table in the crowd 5-12.
Who said anything about him?Bauer has none of these attributes.
were they asked to play such a high line and leave so much space in behind them? no
No, I'm not. You seem to be failing to grasp that it is not a question of "can you be a good cb without pace" but "should you look for cbs with pace if you play a very high line". John Terry was a great CB and wasn't quick but when he was asked to play in a very high line by AVB at Chelsea he struggled.You’re missing the point entirely.
No, but they weren't asked to push the line up to almost over the half way line at all times.Were they camped in their own penalty area all game? No.
Plenty of examples of Paul McGrath defending as the last man just inside his own half for club and country
Shock you’re wrong again. Positional ability and reading the game in a high line are more important than pace. It’s not like Thomas and Kitching are little slugs. They’re not rapid and if you play a high line with a quick centre half, but positionally he’s not very good the pace is irrelevant. No matter how quick your defenders are it’s a high risk - high reward of playingNo, I'm not. You seem to be failing to grasp that it is not a question of "can you be a good cb without pace" but "should you look for cbs with pace if you play a very high line". John Terry was a great CB and wasn't quick but when he was asked to play in a very high line by AVB at Chelsea he struggled.
The question is not quality but suitability to our current tactics.
It's gonna be BTA starting against Hull, isn't it??!!
No, but they weren't asked to push the line up to almost over the half way line at all times.
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