25/26 January Transfer Window (43 Viewers)

[Bertola]

Sunderland transfer news: Bundesliga giants 'exploring deal' for Black Cats midfielder this month - Sports Mole

Borussia Monchengladbach and FC Koln are reportedly exploring the possibility of a January deal for Sunderland midfielder Dan Neil.

www.sportsmole.co.uk

Ipswich won't be happy

 

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[viridisman]

Sunderland transfer news: Bundesliga giants 'exploring deal' for Black Cats midfielder this month - Sports Mole

Borussia Monchengladbach and FC Koln are reportedly exploring the possibility of a January deal for Sunderland midfielder Dan Neil.

www.sportsmole.co.uk

Hes gone ipswich already

 

[SkyB]

This story hasn't come from no where.

I know it's SportBoom, which is AI slop, but Ekrem is a genuine transfer journo with a lot of followers.

My guess is one of the clubs linked put a bid in and are salty we quoted that price, so leaked it.

 

[Skyblueabo1111]

Well not really. There's an irony to your posting, you absolutely wet yourself when people were calling out Simms when he was shite for a whole season, yet all I've seen from you for weeks now is piles and piles of negative posts about a manager who has us top of the league.
I think if your forum persona is going to be a holier than thou one, you look pretty silly when you start going the other way. What you actually didn't like was one of your favourites being critised which is fine as we're all hypocrites on here but you don't have a leg to stand on when you go back to the holier than thou shtick.
I'll stick to backing the manager for now. He's done a fantastic job and is far more important than any of our streaky strikers.

I didn't slag Frank off Tom, or give him dogs abuse, like you did with Simms. I merely questioned his tactics away from home.I didn't call for him to be sacked either, despite the lies posted on this forum

 

[TomRad85]

I didn't slag Frank off Tom, or give him dogs abuse, like you did with Simms. I merely questioned his tactics away from home.I didn't call for him to be sacked either, despite the lies posted on this forum

Knee deep in the Haji Wright pile on too weren't you.
Fact is you've been banging on about Frank for weeks, all negative negative. He's allowed to be criticised we've all done it but theres a clear difference between those who do it and move on and realise he's been excellent for the club overall vs those that can't wait to sharpen the knives. You are the latter.

 

[Skyblueabo1111]

We need to figure out something away from home, i feel its a confidence thing so we probably do need to just shore it up until the players regain their mojo a bit. At home i don't really see an issue. The complaint seems to be we haven't been blowing teams away, we've had tight wins over Bristol, Swansea, Lesta and Millwall recently but i'm struggling to see a problem with that. Winning tight games isn't really the sign of a team that lacks confidence on their home turf or have lost their bottle. Quite the opposite in fact.
I think a player of Onyekas profile will do us good in those tricky away fixtures.

All I have been saying. We keep doing the same thing away from home, getting the same results. Generally, since November, no points.

 

[TomRad85]

All I have been saying. We keep doing the same thing away from home, getting the same results. Generally, since November, no points.

OK fair enough, you aren't alone by any means but you seem to love name dropping me for some reason
Frankly i think we'd ran out of gas by the Birmingham game and the weeks approaching. Frank could maybe have done things differently against Norwich i agree but really I think King needs to make sure he has the tools to see this through.

 

[Skyblueabo1111]

Knee deep in the Haji Wright pile on too weren't you.
Fact is you've been banging on about Frank for weeks, all negative negative. He's allowed to be criticised we've all done it but theres a clear difference between those who do it and move on and realise he's been excellent for the club overall vs those that can't wait to sharpen the knives. You are the latter.

Knee deep in the Haji Wright pile on too weren't you.
Fact is you've been banging on about Frank for weeks, all negative negative. He's allowed to be criticised we've all done it but theres a clear difference between those who do it and move on and realise he's been excellent for the club overall vs those that can't wait to sharpen the knives. You are the latter.

Go on then Tom, show me a post where I slagged off Wright? You won't be able to, because I didn't. I merely questioned who is scoring goals. Simms 10 in 12 starts, Wright 2 in 17 ( or thereabouts).

My only criticisms of Frank, have been threefold. 1/ Players in form, dropped immediately when one of his favourites comes back from injury. Wright a good example. Thomas for Lati.

2/ Keeping the same formation away from home, clearly not working.

3/ Frank saying the team are tired and/ or have flu, which I am not questioning whatsoever, but then not using squad players like Wolf and KH.

Fair criticism, I believe. Unfortunately on this forum, if you criticise Frank, you are accused of wanting him sacked, even though I posted exactly the opposite.

 

[TomRad85]

3/ Frank saying the team are tired and/ or have flu, which I am not questioning whatsoever, but then not using squad players like Wolf and KH.

I agree with this one the most, especially Kesler. One of the best RBs in the league imo, there has been no need to burn MvE out so much.

 

[19Skybluearmy76]

If we're insistent on a high line and the 3-1-6 when attacking, I don't see why we can't just tell MVE to sit as part of the back 3 and let his pace get us out of the counter problems we have. It was how Kyle Walker was used for years

Totally agree it just doesn't make sense and I'm struggling to see why Lampard and Co. aren't addressing it because surely if we can see it they can and the fact it keeps happening is quite concerning in all honesty. There is no need to be so high up the pitch.
Fuck the long throws Milan stay back surely one of the midfielders or attackers can launch a football. It's very basic football errors and it's costing us and the fear is now the mindset and morale of the squad and having self doubt etc etc
We need to turn QPR over convincingly who no doubt will be geared up and wanting some sort of revenge for the 7-1 humiliation. Anything other than a win tomorrow and it really is time to be worried.

 

[Hobo]

I agree with this one the most, especially Kesler. One of the best RBs in the league imo, there has been no need to burn MvE out so much.

Kesler was injured when MVE was playing when ill.

 

[19Skybluearmy76]

My only criticisms of Frank, have been threefold. 1/ Players in form, dropped immediately when one of his favourites comes back from injury. Wright a good example. Thomas for Lati.

2/ Keeping the same formation away from home, clearly not working.

3/ Frank saying the team are tired and/ or have flu, which I am not questioning whatsoever, but then not using squad players like Wolf and KH.

Fair criticism, I believe. Unfortunately on this forum, if you criticise Frank, you are accused of wanting him sacked, even though I posted exactly the opposite.

Totally agree Frank and the other coaching staff have to take the lions share of the criticism because they keep setting the players up the same way and teams have sussed it and are going through us like there's no one there. If we're going to play this ridiculous high line then play with 3 at the back and to limit counters from corners etc have either Milan or JDS back with at least 2 centre halves. It's surely not rocket science because Frank even said after the Norwich game that there's clearly defensive issues well do something about it.

 

[shmmeee]

I agree with this one the most, especially Kesler. One of the best RBs in the league imo, there has been no need to burn MvE out so much.

And a very capable LB too which makes his lack of time even more baffling.

 

[FergieTheFinisher]

Kesler was injured when MVE was playing when ill.

Yeah I thought this coincided with when he rolled his ankle. Can’t remember which game off hand.

 

[TomRad85]

And a very capable LB too which makes his lack of time even more baffling.

Yeh agreed, he was actually doing very well there at Charlton, dare i say one of our better players on the day. Unfortunately he got injured, Brau came on and cost us 2 points.

 

[CCFCSteve]

And a very capable LB too which makes his lack of time even more baffling.

Was just going to say the same. Surprised he wasn’t picked as soon as Dasilva was out

 

[TomRad85]

Was just going to say the same. Surprised he wasn’t picked as soon as Dasilva was out

Much better option than Brau or Bidwell. Only seen him there for a short period of time so hard to say if he'd be better than Dasilva who's playing in his natural position but i wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

Was just going to say the same. Surprised he wasn’t picked as soon as Dasilva was out

Kesler is available now ?

 

[CCFCSteve]

Kesler is available now ?

I meant as a replacement as soon as Dasilva got suspended. Away from home I’d probably give KKH a go instead of Dasilva now as well though. Takes away the overlap and some of Dasilvas technical ability going forward but gives us proper defensive pace down both flanks which might help us if/when we get caught out on the break

Might not work but worth a go

 

[19Skybluearmy76]

I agree with this one the most, especially Kesler. One of the best RBs in the league imo, there has been no need to burn MvE out so much.

100% I'd say KKH is far better defensively and probably quicker than Milan it's really strange how sparingly he's been used. There needs to be a shake up somewhere and I'm not slagging Frank and Co. off it's fair criticism and he's been fantastic since day one but the real test is now having the coaching skills to steer us in another direction and change up the tactics instead of consistently sticking with the same formation. JDS has been immense but he needs a break too he's targeted by most opposition teams simply because of his size.

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

I meant as a replacement as soon as Dasilva got suspended. Away from home I’d probably give KKH a go instead of Dasilva now as well though. Takes away the overlap and some of Dasilvas technical ability going forward but gives us proper pace down both flanks which might help us if/when we get caught out on the break

Might not work but worth a go

Sorry meant he's been injured so wondering if he will be on the subs bench tomorrow

 

[shmmeee]

100% I'd say KKH is far better defensively and probably quicker than Milan it's really strange how sparingly he's been used. There needs to be a shake up somewhere and I'm not slagging Frank and Co. off it's fair criticism and he's been fantastic since day one but the real test is now having the coaching skills to steer us in another direction and change up the tactics instead of consistently sticking with the same formation. JDS has been immense but he needs a break too he's targeted by most opposition teams simply because of his size.

Nah. He’s slower and worse defensively but better going forwards imo.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Sorry meant he's been injured so wondering if he will be on the subs bench tomorrow

Think he was back on bench last week

 

[19Skybluearmy76]

Nah. He’s slower and worse defensively but better going forwards imo.

Milan isn't great defensively gets done so many times. I suppose I'm just clutching at anything to change things up

 

[Skyblueabo1111]

Kesler was injured when MVE was playing when ill.

Been plenty of times when KH has been available, when Milan has looked tired, playing 3 games per week.

 

[TomRad85]

Kesler was injured when MVE was playing when ill.

Talking generally throughout the course of the season.

 

[ccfcchris]

Hes gone ipswich already

Shows how much I know.

 

[Senior Vick from Alicante]

We need to figure out something away from home, i feel its a confidence thing so we probably do need to just shore it up until the players regain their mojo a bit. At home i don't really see an issue. The complaint seems to be we haven't been blowing teams away, we've had tight wins over Bristol, Swansea, Lesta and Millwall recently but i'm struggling to see a problem with that. Winning tight games isn't really the sign of a team that lacks confidence on their home turf or have lost their bottle. Quite the opposite in fact.
I think a player of Onyekas profile will do us good in those tricky away fixtures.

We should just sit in and invite teams on and play the counter. If you dont loose and get a point a game away then home form should get us there.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Sunderland transfer news: Bundesliga giants 'exploring deal' for Black Cats midfielder this month - Sports Mole

Borussia Monchengladbach and FC Koln are reportedly exploring the possibility of a January deal for Sunderland midfielder Dan Neil.

www.sportsmole.co.uk

From the 16th Jan.

 

[19Skybluearmy76]

We should just sit in and invite teams on and play the counter. If you dont loose and get a point a game away then home form should get us there.

That's what I said the set up away from home is all wrong. There is no need to be open wide and attack, attack, attack.
Let the home side have the ball come and break us down bang mistake and we have the pace and power to counter any side in a flash.

 

[skybluecam]

My only criticisms of Frank, have been threefold. 1/ Players in form, dropped immediately when one of his favourites comes back from injury. Wright a good example. Thomas for Lati.

2/ Keeping the same formation away from home, clearly not working.

3/ Frank saying the team are tired and/ or have flu, which I am not questioning whatsoever, but then not using squad players like Wolf and KH.

Fair criticism, I believe. Unfortunately on this forum, if you criticise Frank, you are accused of wanting him sacked, even though I posted exactly the opposite.

Lati "in form"

 

[skysblue]

Was just going to say the same. Surprised he wasn’t picked as soon as Dasilva was out

He was but got injured in 1st game.

 

[SBAndy]

Not so easy when our fanbase start jeering as soon as we don’t close down the opposition keeper


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Find this a little ridiculous. We’re giving a lot of keepers at this level far too much credit for their ball-playing ability. Christian Walton (Ipswich keeper) is a bomb scare on the ball so there was no reason for us to be standing off him.

 

[CCFCSteve]

He was but got injured in 1st game.

We played Bidwell against Swansea and Brau against Ipswich. KKH was on bench for both

 

[skybluecam]

Find this a little ridiculous. We’re giving a lot of keepers at this level far too much credit for their ball-playing ability. Christian Walton (Ipswich keeper) is a bomb scare on the ball so there was no reason for us to be standing off him.

It's not just about the keeper's ball playing ability, it's about dictating the areas they play in to.

If a keeper is poor with his feet you might prefer to let him have the ball and force him to attempt a longer pass or just hoof it which generally benefits the defence.