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quinn1971

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Let’s face it. Apart from Milan, most oppo forwards are faster than our defenders. That being the case move the defending line 25 metres back so they can move forward onto the ball instead of chasing it.
Play to their strong points and this will give space to our midfield to expand the game.
What was the game where kitching and Thomas tried to play off side in their half , it’s comical at times, think we just need to accept it’s how we play, we just need to score more and we’ll get away with it ,
 

19Skybluearmy76

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Let’s face it. Apart from Milan, most oppo forwards are faster than our defenders. That being the case move the defending line 25 metres back so they can move forward onto the ball instead of chasing it.
Play to their strong points and this will give space to our midfield to expand the game.
Totally agree I have said this for a while it's not so much the personnel, it's the tactics and teams are wise to it. We press so high and Bobby and Kitching just haven't got the pace. Grimes is so heavily relied on and he just can't cover everything. Milan and JDS are constantly getting caught out almost as wingers. If we slowed it down a bit and didn't press as high we could keep it tight. We have the personnel and pace up top to ruin teams on the counter attack. I really hope Frank and Co. have been looking at a different formation and tactics to make us more solid because I fear if we continue this high line style it's going to ultimately cost us. Even if it's away from home where it needs improving just stay compact and bang turn over on the break and it would work. Hopefully we've sourced a strong and quick centre half and left back to help out.
 

19Skybluearmy76

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Our away problem summed up in 1 photo 😂
It's true it's similar to say Liverpool certainly under Klopp where Van Dijk and say Matip were essentially on the half way line but they were both quick for centre halves. We lack pace centrally from defence to CM and Grimes can only do so much. We need someone like Onyeka a proper engine who covers box to box. I really think Grimes and Onyeka would be the best in the Championship. This would allow Torp to play further forward. The Onyeka deal is vital and needs to be done.
 

quinn1971

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It's true it's similar to say Liverpool certainly under Klopp where Van Dijk and say Matip were essentially on the half way line but they were both quick for centre halves. We lack pace centrally from defence to CM and Grimes can only do so much. We need someone like Onyeka a proper engine who covers box to box. I really think Grimes and Onyeka would be the best in the Championship. This would allow Torp to play further forward. The Onyeka deal is vital and needs to be done.

That’s what I don’t get, it’s obvious to everyone, it’s a brilliant way to play but need pace at the back to play it, that’s the problem, asking our centre halves to do something they can’t, surely you’d of solved that in the summer ? You only need one of them to have a bit of pace, our 4 centre halves make kilcline look sharp, Jordan storey from Preston would of suited us, bit of pace, there was no point in us wasting 10 million on the lad from hull, wouldn’t of made any difference
 

19Skybluearmy76

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That’s what I don’t get, it’s obvious to everyone, it’s a brilliant way to play but need pace at the back to play it, that’s the problem, asking our centre halves to do something they can’t, surely you’d of solved that in the summer ? You only need one of them to have a bit of pace, our 4 centre halves make kilcline look sharp
1 million percent it's crazy how Lampard hasn't made centre half a priority position or change the fucking tactics. The biggest issue is Milan and JDS leaving so much space on the flanks. EMC and Esse need to work harder and track back. I feel Tats does he works his socks off and I reckon Minny would because Asian players predominantly are the fittest players around and generally work very hard. Something has to change and quickly.
 

quinn1971

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1 million percent it's crazy how Lampard hasn't made centre half a priority position or change the fucking tactics. The biggest issue is Milan and JDS leaving so much space on the flanks. EMC and Esse need to work harder and track back. I feel Tats does he works his socks off and I reckon Minny would because Asian players predominantly are the fittest players around and generally work very hard. Something has to change and quickly.
Would love to see our defensive coaching, surely they’re not practicing that in training ? Grimes is clever, you’d think he’d have a word with Lampard and tell him it’s not working away,
 

Skyblueabo1111

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Totally agree I have said this for a while it's not so much the personnel, it's the tactics and teams are wise to it. We press so high and Bobby and Kitching just haven't got the pace. Grimes is so heavily relied on and he just can't cover everything. Milan and JDS are constantly getting caught out almost as wingers. If we slowed it down a bit and didn't press as high we could keep it tight. We have the personnel and pace up top to ruin teams on the counter attack. I really hope Frank and Co. have been looking at a different formation and tactics to make us more solid because I fear if we continue this high line style it's going to ultimately cost us. Even if it's away from home where it needs improving just stay compact and bang turn over on the break and it would work. Hopefully we've sourced a strong and quick centre half and left back to help out.
You'll have a pile on soon from Tom rad, Grendel and the others. You can't criticise Frank, otherwise you are a traitor.
 

Skyblueabo1111

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Totally agree I have said this for a while it's not so much the personnel, it's the tactics and teams are wise to it. We press so high and Bobby and Kitching just haven't got the pace. Grimes is so heavily relied on and he just can't cover everything. Milan and JDS are constantly getting caught out almost as wingers. If we slowed it down a bit and didn't press as high we could keep it tight. We have the personnel and pace up top to ruin teams on the counter attack. I really hope Frank and Co. have been looking at a different formation and tactics to make us more solid because I fear if we continue this high line style it's going to ultimately cost us. Even if it's away from home where it needs improving just stay compact and bang turn over on the break and it would work. Hopefully we've sourced a strong and quick centre half and left back to help out.
I have been battered on this forum, for suggesting the same.. apparently our "xg" is brilliant! Perhaps we can win the "xg league"'.. will we get 200 million for doing that?
 

Skyblueabo1111

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1 million percent it's crazy how Lampard hasn't made centre half a priority position or change the fucking tactics. The biggest issue is Milan and JDS leaving so much space on the flanks. EMC and Esse need to work harder and track back. I feel Tats does he works his socks off and I reckon Minny would because Asian players predominantly are the fittest players around and generally work very hard. Something has to change and quickly.
Centre half isn't the problem. Tactics, but don't criticise Frank.
 

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