The Prem has changed so much we'd see spending we've never seen in our Iives so the summer would at least be very exciting even if the final outcome was getting panned most weeks and finishing third from bottom.
I agree, i'm actually enjoying Sunderland doing well which i didn't think i'd ever say. Also agree that the strategy should stay the same but obviously at a higher level.Sunderland and Forest recently are giving me unrealistic hope tbh. Keep the recruitment strategy going around decent people with potential just spend a lot more on it is what I’m hoping for. That plus Lampard with a point to prove I’m hoping for a solid 15th.
I am tooI agree, i'm actually enjoying Sunderland doing well which i didn't think i'd ever say. Also agree that the strategy should stay the same but obviously at a higher level.
Don't get me wrong i'm not tuning into their games and leaping out of me seat, it's just the hope isn't it, the last 3 or 4 seasons it had just looked absolutely hopeless for teams coming up out of the Championship. Maybe they've just all been shite and had shite recruitment.I am too
Both are unrealistic models for us to follow (£165m spent by Sunderland?). We’re going do have to bring in a a lot of players with potential to supplement our existing squad and hope it clicks well enough to get 4th from bottom.Sunderland and Forest recently are giving me unrealistic hope tbh. Keep the recruitment strategy going around decent people with potential just spend a lot more on it is what I’m hoping for. That plus Lampard with a point to prove I’m hoping for a solid 15th.
Both are unrealistic models for us to follow (£165m spent by Sunderland?). We’re going do have to bring in a a lot of players with potential to supplement our existing squad and hope it clicks well enough to get 4th from bottom.
That’s probable, but I’m not sure I’m that comfortable with moving away from the model that’s been successful so far.It costs about £150m to stay up yeah. I suspect there will be investment at least if not a sale if we go up tho.
It costs about £150m to stay up yeah. I suspect there will be investment at least if not a sale if we go up tho.
That’s probable, but I’m not sure I’m that comfortable with moving away from the model that’s been successful so far.
Ballard is doing alright in the Prem, you’d be surprised at how many players could make the jump up. We’ll be changing the tactical setup and that may suit certain players.MVE could start in the Prem, Thomas with a lot of work could do, the other two it’d be a bridge too far. Rushworth would also, to be clear.
FFP having unintended consequences. As many financial analysts point out, teams don’t need to sell match day tickets at all to break even… so why are prices so high and raising?I think in the PL to stay there there will be quite a lot of fan discomfort tbh. Just reading about ST prices for example.
FFP having unintended consequences. As many financial analysts point out, teams don’t need to sell match day tickets at all to break even… so why are prices so high and raising?
1) the away price cap
2) the balance sheet for FFP
Well intentioned, but FFP is not fit for purpose.
Sunderland and Forest recently are giving me unrealistic hope tbh. Keep the recruitment strategy going around decent people with potential just spend a lot more on it is what I’m hoping for. That plus Lampard with a point to prove I’m hoping for a solid 15th.
I’m the opposite, let things be the Wild West again. If Newcastle want to spend £1bn in a single window, let them crack on. All it’s done is consolidate the Top 4-6 teams and Man City have got there and essentially pulled the ladder up.Honestly I’d happily just wage cap each division by the TV money. Included European in that. The other money made can go on fees and the rest. But the fundamental idea a club should pay more in wages than the market has shown that level of football can bear is nonsense so something has to be done.
Ipswich spent a huge amount as well and came nowhere near close to good enough.Sunderland and Forest recently are giving me unrealistic hope tbh. Keep the recruitment strategy going around decent people with potential just spend a lot more on it is what I’m hoping for. That plus Lampard with a point to prove I’m hoping for a solid 15th.
Ipswich spent a huge amount as well and came nowhere near close to good enough.
Ipswich went with the failed strategy of buying what they saw as the best players from The Championship. It's not a recruitment strategy i'd go near, i'd say 2 maximum. This is a thread i have planned for the end of the season if we go up btw. 'Which 2 players would you take up with us?'Ipswich spent a huge amount as well and came nowhere near close to good enough.
Forest isn't really a case study at all.
Their drug baron owner has just chucked hundreds of millions at the squad until it's somewhat stuck. In their first season in the PL his son was picking a lot of the transfers.
And when you thought they were becoming more than established in the PL, it's very much becoming unstuck because he's a lunatic and doesn't have the temperament to run a club properly.
I’m the opposite, let things be the Wild West again. If Newcastle want to spend £1bn in a single window, let them crack on. All it’s done is consolidate the Top 4-6 teams and Man City have got there and essentially pulled the ladder up.
Salary caps would most likely see clubs give out huge bonuses to make up for lost earnings. Unlike US sports, there’s no incentive for clubs to take on bad salaries and so on.
Ipswich spent a huge amount as well and came nowhere near close to good enough.
Tough question that, particularly as such players would likely come up with another promoted side.Ipswich went with the failed strategy of buying what they saw as the best players from The Championship. It's not a recruitment strategy i'd go near, i'd say 2 maximum. This is a thread i have planned for the end of the season if we go up btw. 'Which 2 players would you take up with us?'
We have more players with that little bit of sparkle that could stick around imo. I certainly think our entire best 11 as is will make the matchday squad even if only 4 of them end up starting. We should concentre our funds on 6/7 real quality players and trust the rest, rather than spreading too thin. Imo anyway.I’ve always thought it would be a negative part of being promoted to the prem that we would have to get rid of most of the team that got you there. I think Ipswich fans are going through it at the moment, I suppose you would soon get over it if you’re winning games.
I'd have a rule to exclude those of course. I'm not that fussed by many tbh even from clubs that may follow us up. Could probably crack out a shortlist of about 10 and work from there.Tough question that, particularly as such players would likely come up with another promoted side.
Always hear a lot about Hayden Hackney at Boro for example but he’s never stood out against us.I'd have a rule to exclude those of course. I'm not that fussed by many tbh even from clubs that may follow us up. Could probably crack out a shortlist of about 10 and work from there.
He's highly rated for sure and Frank made sure to have a good chat with him at the end of the Boro game i seem to recall. Heard he did it with Louza too, clever i think.Always hear a lot about Hayden Hackney at Boro for example but he’s never stood out against us.
Luton didn't even do that did they?If we go up we need to learn from the mistakes of Ipswich and Luton and not sign a collection of the best Championship players. Foreign market will always have more value if you have good player ID.
True when consider how small the squad is. Bidwell, Simms, Lati, Allen, Brau would likely be gone. Would leave us with about 15 players.We have more players with that little bit of sparkle that could stick around imo. I certainly think our entire best 11 as is will make the matchday squad even if only 4 of them end up starting. We should concentre our funds on 6/7 real quality players and trust the rest, rather than spreading too thin. Imo anyway.
That’s a valid concern it’s fair to say most, if not all Prem-Champ clubs are too big to fail. The clubs most likely to fail are teams in L1 and below where FFP is largely out of scope.My worry there is there’s always someone willing to gamble with a clubs future and it trickles down to stupid money being spent where no one can actually afford it.
If we go up we need to learn from the mistakes of Ipswich and Luton and not sign a collection of the best Championship players. Foreign market will always have more value if you have good player ID.
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