Grendel
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I was talking about why players have to self isolate - and you are far more likely to get it in a pub than a football ground
Of course it won't, but IMO having an average of say 10k people in close proximity at 45 football grounds over a weekend means around half a million people in danger of getting infected all at the same time. They might crowd in a pub afterwards, and then home, work on Monday etc, bringing hundreds of thousands if not millions more into contact in a very short space of time. That's basically a 'pox party' and will do nothing to 'flatten the curve' allowing the health service to cope with it.
Shops where you might get a few thousand per day over a bigger area will result in the infection spreading, but nowhere near as quickly as somewhere like a football game. That does help flatten the curve a little bit. Of course people panicking and flocking to the supermarket doesn't help at all.
So I can understand entirely why this measure has been brought in. If anything it may be a bit late because even last weeks games could have resulted in high transmission with people with the virus but not yet showing symptoms. But far better to do it now that even later.
Its strange how mass gatherings are banned but hundreds of kids together isn't it.
I was just stating to Magwitch, the reasons why they are doing it. I am not saying I agree with it.
I was talking about why players have to self isolate - and you are far more likely to get it in a pub than a football ground
Its still hundreds of people together in one place. It is a mass gathering.Banning mass gatherings doesn’t bring the economy grinding to a halt or hit healthcare worker capacity.
Its still hundreds of people together in one place. It is a mass gathering.
I was talking about why players have to self isolate - and you are far more likely to get it in a pub than a football ground
Oh I agree it's just that a school is a mass gathering is self.It is, but all of these things are a balance. Kids off means workers off or vulnerable people doing childcare. Football matches don’t. Also you tend to be closer together for longer at a match/concert than in a lesson.
Dont the people who would be going to the pub right now go to the pub before and after the game anyway? Pubs are empty according to reports I’ve seen so not sure I buy this argument even if that were true.
Possibly - people's hygiene in pubs is shocking (though some at the football are no better)
Difference is in a pub you won't have thousands or tens of thousands in at once, and at popular games in very close proximity to another. So even if you're less likely to catch it the sheer number would result in more transmissions overall I reckon and a quicker spread.
Plus if they go to the pub first, contract it there through poor hygiene then go to the match that's even worse.
Keep everybody inside together that’ll keep the infection rate downIt’s absurd to ban outdoor gatherings
Remember though 'SISU batter people in court'There would be legal challenges... but nothing would come iof it.
It’s absurd to ban outdoor gatherings
They would maybe get more TV rights for the one season.Another issue in making the Premiership a 22 team league is Sky would have to agree stumping up over £200 million extra unless each current Prem club give up about £10 mill. towards it, can you see that happening ?
Even when those gatherings are likely to see people in very close proximity to one another, certainly rubbing shoulders together and pushing past people? Closer contact than you'd get in most indoor places.
Even when those gatherings are likely to see people in very close proximity to one another, certainly rubbing shoulders together and pushing past people? Closer contact than you'd get in most indoor places.
That is the obvious answer we have to wait now until April but I cannot see any reason why that can’t happen perhaps could have happened for today’s game.Then at least play the games behind closed doors
That is the obvious answer we have to wait now until April but I cannot see any reason why that can’t happen perhaps could have happened for today’s game.
Then at least play the games behind closed doors
It isn’t closed contact though is it? I’m going to concerts next week in tiny venues that are sold out - shall I breath down the phone afterwards - would you have stayed at home today if the game was on?
It is close contact. At any given event I probably come into direct contact with well over a dozen complete strangers inadvertently on the concourse, getting to and from the seat, the train, even the toilets as you go through the door let alone all the surfaces I might unthinkly touch that many others also have.
I wasn't intending on going today as the person I'd normally go with was working rather than due to the virus, but if they weren't and we were planning on going I'd have probably decided against it by late Thu as I've got vulnerable people in my close contacts. Was also considering going to the Blaze but decided against it a few hours before they called the fixtures off.
That would be acceptable yes, maybe even preferable. Probably result in some transmission but on a small scale, allowing for the flattening of the curve. Even with a handful of fans who'd probably turn up outside anyway it'd be ok.
If you caught it you would comfortably survive and that goes for the overwhelming majority who would go.
There is potential risk to these players future health.Then at least play the games behind closed doors
There is potential risk to these players future health.
There is potential risk to these players future health.
It can leave lung damage .it’s not the Black Death
It can leave lung damage .
My real worry is they are actually saying only the top 2 from from the Champ would go up. Enlarge the PL for a season and the Football League stays as it is. So no promotions from L1 and L2 etc.
Yep completely...... not even the slightest nod of recognition when actually these promotions and relegations are massive as you go down the leagues. The move from non league to league is a game changer for clubs and the decision in the top league will have an impact...... but you would hardly know it !!! The more detailed commentary and Conversation still just stops with Leeds and WBAI think what pisses me off is that all this discussion is purely around Liverpool and no other teams, technically they are the easiest to sort as it has no impact on any other team. CL spots are still up for grabs, relegation places all worth 100m a piece. Just worried that league one and two will get lost in this Melee and probably the biggest impact financially. The OP is a sensible option if this works down the leagues but my preference is to finish the league
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