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Frostie

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,161
Marty said:
Is Clarke-Salter actually any good? Both Sunderland and Blues fans have told me he's dreadful.

Not sure I've ever watched him play so not sure if they're just winding me up.
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He's potentially very good but injuries have hampered him quite a bit. His first spell at Blues he was excellent & excelled at Vitesse too.
The Sunderland loan was a disaster as he got consecutive red cards but that was 3 & a half years ago, he's improved a lot since then.

Natural leader - captained England U21s, strong, quick & very comfortable on the ball (even moreso than our current CBs imo). Can sometimes be caught out positionally but plenty to work with. Will also have a level of understanding with Maatsen already.
I'm excited at the prospect of having a proper left footer at LCB giving much needed balance.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,162
covcity4life said:
Defintley not as bad as some SBTers make out
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He's ok as a back up
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,163
Boosh said:
Mr Tickle would have done better. He’s dreadful
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Yeah, I don’t think he was that bad. We need to improve on him/he needs to improve but I could say that for most of our team.
 
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Marty

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,164
Frostie said:
He's potentially very good but injuries have hampered him quite a bit. His first spell at Blues he was excellent & excelled at Vitesse too.
The Sunderland loan was a disaster as he got consecutive red cards but that was 3 & a half years ago, he's improved a lot since then.

Natural leader - captained England U21s, strong, quick & very comfortable on the ball (even moreso than our current CBs imo). Can sometimes be caught out positionally but plenty to work with. Will also have a level of understanding with Maatsen already.
I'm excited at the prospect of having a proper left footer at LCB giving much needed balance.
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Sounds exactly what we need, if we manage to sign Ostigard, we could have a fairly solid defence from the sounds of it.
 
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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,165
Terry_dactyl said:
Yeah, I don’t think he was that bad. We need to improve on him/he needs to improve but I could say that for most of our team.
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Hopefully Moore is that improvement.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,166
Frostie said:
He's potentially very good but injuries have hampered him quite a bit. His first spell at Blues he was excellent & excelled at Vitesse too.
The Sunderland loan was a disaster as he got consecutive red cards but that was 3 & a half years ago, he's improved a lot since then.

Natural leader - captained England U21s, strong, quick & very comfortable on the ball (even moreso than our current CBs imo). Can sometimes be caught out positionally but plenty to work with. Will also have a level of understanding with Maatsen already.
I'm excited at the prospect of having a proper left footer at LCB giving much needed balance.
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I didn’t realise he was left footed. Exactly what we needed last season.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,167
Marty said:
Sounds exactly what we need, if we manage to sign Ostigard, we could have a fairly solid defence from the sounds of it.
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I can't get excited about left side cb's signing from PL teams Not since I got stung by Jordan Turnbull.
 
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Frostie

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,168
Marty said:
Sounds exactly what we need, if we manage to sign Ostigard, we could have a fairly solid defence from the sounds of it.
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Can't see any scenario where we sign Østigård this season unfortunately.
 
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Marty

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,169
Frostie said:
Can't see any scenario where we sign Østigård this season unfortunately.
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I agree, but I live in hope.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,170
Terry_dactyl said:
He seemingly went from hero to zero in no time at all.
Far exceeded my expectations in terms of competency. Prior to his first game, from what I read on here, I imagined that someone had essentially given Mr Tickle a pair of gloves and somehow he’d forced his way into our first team.
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Mr Tickle would be an outstanding GK tho. The reach on that guy.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,171
I’d still have Østigård over McFadzean and have questions about Rose, Dabo and Maatsen stepping up. But those are questions I can live with as I love watching players develop.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,172
shmmeee said:
I’d still have Østigård over McFadzean and have questions about Rose, Dabo and Maatsen stepping up. But those are questions I can live with as I love watching players develop.
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A fully fit Dabo can step up
 

COV

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,173
David O'Day said:
A fully fit Dabo can step up
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He needs to, not sure how much more development there can be at age 25
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,174
David O'Day said:
A fully fit Dabo can step up
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I think so. I thought his best game was the one he got injured in last season which implies when he’s up to speed he’ll be fine.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,175
COV said:
He needs to, not sure how much more development there can be at age 25
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It's not development he needs, just to stay fir
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,176
Terry_dactyl said:
Far exceeded my expectations in terms of competency.
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He did mine too, but there wasn't much to exceed!
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,177
I think Dabo looked very comfortable and definitely at the level in the few games he was actually fit in last season.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,178
I think we’ve been spoiled as fans as far as GKs go so have higher expectations than most.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 29, 2021
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Liquid Gold said:
I think Dabo looked very comfortable and definitely at the level in the few games he was actually fit in last season.
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I don't think he was as bad as some seem to think last season, anyway - even in his worse games.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,180
Liquid Gold said:
I think Dabo looked very comfortable and definitely at the level in the few games he was actually fit in last season.
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He was one of a few along with James, O’Hare and Hamer who used the ball really well at times and looked a level above some of our others *cough* Hyam *cough*

Just worry about him defensively. And aerially.
 

fatso

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,181
I though Dabo was one of our top 3 players (when fit of course)
 
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Marty

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,182
Deleted member 5849 said:
I don't think he was as bad as some seem to think last season, anyway - even in his worse games.
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Made an horrendous error in one of the games, tried to play a 40 yard ball across his 18 yard box which got intercepted, they didn't score, but still.

Worth persisting with though as he spent all season injured.
 
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skybluereeve

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,183
Both Dabo and Rose need to stay fit this season. If they do we can kind of find out if they can step up. Think both can if injury free
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,184
Marty said:
Made an horrendous error in one of the games, tried to play a 40 yard ball across his 18 yard box which got intercepted, they didn't score, but still.

Worth persisting with though as he spent all season injured.
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But everyone makes mistakes from time to time - even Wilson.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,185
Dabo vs Norwich away was one of the best performances one of our players put in last season imo, had that young LB on toast.
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,186
Is there a genuine link to Clarke-Salter then or just speculation? Maasten, Clarke-Salter and a holding midfielder would do me.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,187
skybluereeve said:
Both Dabo and Rose need to stay fit this season. If they do we can kind of find out if they can step up. Think both can if injury free
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When Rose came into the side later in the season his use of the ball was revolutionary TBH. Stopped the awful “to the wing back, back to you, turn like an oil tanker, to the other CB, get it back, lump it up, lose possession” we’d been cursed with.
 
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Marty

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,188
Deleted member 5849 said:
But everyone makes mistakes from time to time - even Wilson.
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Don't dispute that, at all, think you may have me confused with someone else though.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,189
SleepyGinger said:
Is there a genuine link to Clarke-Salter then or just speculation? Maasten, Clarke-Salter and a holding midfielder would do me.
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@Skybluebeliever says we have a CB from Chelsea coming in when their first team CB's are back.
 

baldy

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,190
shmmeee said:
I think we’ve been spoiled as fans as far as GKs go so have higher expectations than most.
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How far back was that though? Soiled more like
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,191
shmmeee said:
He was one of a few along with James, O’Hare and Hamer who used the ball really well at times and looked a level above some of our others *cough* Hyam *cough*

Just worry about him defensively. And aerially.
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Would Hyam be better served in the middle of the 3 if we do sign a LCB?
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,192
David O'Day said:
Would Hyam be better served in the middle of the 3 if we do sign a LCB?
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I think it’s no secret that I don’t rate Hyam at all at this level, but maybe. It’s his distribution I have the most issues with. Not sure I’d have him ahead of McFadzean based on last season though.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,193
shmmeee said:
I think we’ve been spoiled as fans as far as GKs go so have higher expectations than most.
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Debec, Shearer, Reece-Cooke, Hyldegaard.

Yep, spoiled!
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,194
shmmeee said:
When Rose came into the side later in the season his use of the ball was revolutionary TBH. Stopped the awful “to the wing back, back to you, turn like an oil tanker, to the other CB, get it back, lump it up, lose possession” we’d been cursed with.
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Rose does have something him and the moneyball football stats crowd seem to love him.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 29, 2021
  • #6,195
baldy said:
How far back was that though? Soiled more like
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Im talking Prem days, but let’s face it we’re all middle aged or more
 
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