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South West Sky Blue

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  • May 9, 2021
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At the start of this season I expected us to finish one spot above relegation. Up until Rotherham away we were generally on course for that. The last few games went very well and we obviously ended up on 55 points. Has this purple patch skewed expectations for next season?

How does everyone expect next season to go? I appreciate we don’t yet know the playing personnel. We also want to keep an upwards trajectory, but I’d take 55 points right now! Would we accept 20th place next year?
 
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skyblue025

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #2
I would accept anything over 55 points. Hopefully get them more consistently over the season so a relegation battle isn't really a worry. An extra couple of wins in the first 10 games meant it would of been an occasional glance over the shoulder rather than shitting it at least once every couple of weeks.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #3
South West Sky Blue said:
At the start of this season I expected us to finish one spot above relegation. Up until Rotherham away we were generally on course for that. The last few games went very well and we obviously ended up on 55 points. Has this purple patch skewed expectations for next season?

How does everyone expect next season to go? I appreciate we don’t yet know the playing personnel. We also want to keep an upwards trajectory, but I’d take 55 points right now! Would we accept 20th place next year?
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I would say the strong form over the final 8 games got us up to the points tally we should’ve had in the first place considering all the points we needlessly threw away earlier on. The aim should always be to better the previous performance
 
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SkyblueTexan

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #4
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I would say the strong form over the final 8 games got us up to the points tally we should’ve had in the first place considering all the points we needlessly threw away earlier on. The aim should always be to better the previous performance
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Agreed. We need to kick on from here and aim to do better next season much in the same vein that teams that were recently promoted from League 1 have done (e.g. Barnsley, Luton). This season getting to 50 points was a priority by the end of the season. Hopefully next season we can reach that mark much sooner and see if we can finish in the top half. That would be great in my opinion.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #5
SkyblueTexan said:
Agreed. We need to kick on from here and aim to do better next season much in the same vein that teams that were recently promoted from League 1 have done (e.g. Barnsley, Luton). This season getting to 50 points was a priority by the end of the season. Hopefully next season we can reach that mark much sooner and see if we can finish in the top half. That would be great in my opinion.
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Either a higher league position, points tally or both is progress. Hopefully we’re allowed full capacity crowds and it boosts the finances accordingly.
 

Marty

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #6
Thought we'd be mid table and kinda reached it but made it difficult, I'd be happy with a better finishing position but hopefully we can up the quality of the squad and make it easier on ourselves for a play off push the following season.
 

Barnsley

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #7
Due to the fact you had a few loan players, and a couple of stand out performers this season, squad retention and permanent signings are a must this summer for your club. A good rebuild this summer could set you up for a good few years. You’ve given yourself something to build on, it’s imperative you do so, to avoid being perennial relegation battlers.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #8
Barnsley said:
Due to the fact you had a few loan players, and a couple of stand out performers this season, squad retention and permanent signings are a must this summer for your club. A good rebuild this summer could set you up for a good few years. You’ve given yourself something to build on, it’s imperative you do so, to avoid being perennial relegation battlers.
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I don’t think we’ll have a problem retaining the better permanent players. I don’t see us keeping Ostigard personally and it’s the defence and goalkeeper that need strengthening the most. Conceding over 60 goals, a large chunk of these being ghastly mistakes, says that’s what the focus should be
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #9
Anything less than top 6 and the manager should go
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #10
Ccfcisparks said:
Anything less than top 6 and the manager should go
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I think seeing as he knows everything and is right all the time CC4L should make the predictions and in fact take over recruitment, management and cleaning of the bogs
 

kg82

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #11
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I don’t think we’ll have a problem retaining the better permanent players. I don’t see us keeping Ostigard personally and it’s the defence and goalkeeper that need strengthening the most. Conceding over 60 goals, a large chunk of these being ghastly mistakes, says that’s what the focus should be
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Agreed. When we had 4 fit strikers this season (which was very fleeting), they scored goals. We can’t be as unlucky next season with injuries as this season, can we?!
 

Evo1883

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #12
Progress comfortable mid table
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 9, 2021
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It's hard to tell. We've thrown points away (Forest twice) but had an overly good end. Our players have a season experience, but the loanees go back. A similar kind of season and consolidation would probably be ok - of course you aim higher, but you have to be pragmatic too.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #14
kg82 said:
Agreed. When we had 4 fit strikers this season (which was very fleeting), they scored goals. We can’t be as unlucky next season with injuries as this season, can we?!
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Hope not!
 

fatso

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #15
South West Sky Blue said:
At the start of this season I expected us to finish one spot above relegation. Up until Rotherham away we were generally on course for that. The last few games went very well and we obviously ended up on 55 points. Has this purple patch skewed expectations for next season?

How does everyone expect next season to go? I appreciate we don’t yet know the playing personnel. We also want to keep an upwards trajectory, but I’d take 55 points right now! Would we accept 20th place next year?
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This total lack of ambition sums us up!
So many fans happy to accept mediocrity, and not push for improvement.
Why should players give 100% for the shirt if people like you dont expect it?

We limped along to 55 points with all our games away from home, we started the season after an extended lay off which hampered our first couple of months, we had, horrendous injury problems, far too many loans, no money, and half a squad from our league 2 season.

And yet you would be happy just to get the same points total? Why ffs?

It's time we raised the expectation levels!
We are back at home, we have time for a proper pre season to prepare, we will have new faces in the squad, we would of learnt what the championship is all about, we can get rid of the dead wood (hopefully) and we should be challenging for that 6th place play off position!

We may well fall short, but we should start the season aiming high.
If your happy just to accept mediocrity, then why the fuck do you bother?
If you want an example of what I'm talking about, just look what Barnsley have achieved.
 
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steve101

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #16
I would be delighted if we could better 55 points next season. Hopefully having a full pre-season will help us get up to speed. However, the calibre of the club's coming up will be better than Wycombe and Rotherham. Hull, Peterborough and maybe Sunderland will make it tougher at the bottom.
I don't think we should be expecting too much more than consolidation. Here's hoping that Rose, Dabo, Kelly and Godden can sort out their injuries, and we can strengthen in key areas.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #17
fatso said:
This total lack of ambition sums us up!
So many fans happy to accept mediocrity, and not push for improvement.
Why should players give 100% for the shirt if people like you dont expect it?

We limped along to 55 points with all our games away from home, we started the season after an extended lay off which hampered our first couple of months, we had, horrendous injury problems, far too many loans, no money, and half a squad from our league 2 season.

And yet you would be happy just to get the same points total? Why ffs?

It's time we raised the expectation levels!
We are back at home, we have time for a proper pre season to prepare, we will have new faces in the squad, we would of learnt what the championship is all about, we can get rid of the dead wood (hopefully) and we should be challenging for that 6th place play off position!

We may well fall short, but we should start the season aiming high.
If your happy just to accept mediocrity, then why the fuck do you bother?
If you want an example of what I'm talking about, just look what Barnsley have achieved.
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Robins said post match comparisons to Barnsley are pointless as they’ve spent £2m to acquire a loan player.
 
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steve101

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #18
fatso said:
This total lack of ambition sums us up!
So many fans happy to accept mediocrity, and not push for improvement.
Why should players give 100% for the shirt if people like you dont expect it?

We limped along to 55 points with all our games away from home, we started the season after an extended lay off which hampered our first couple of months, we had, horrendous injury problems, far too many loans, no money, and half a squad from our league 2 season.

And yet you would be happy just to get the same points total? Why ffs?

It's time we raised the expectation levels!
We are back at home, we have time for a proper pre season to prepare, we will have new faces in the squad, we would of learnt what the championship is all about, we can get rid of the dead wood (hopefully) and we should be challenging for that 6th place play off position!

We may well fall short, but we should start the season aiming high.
If your happy just to accept mediocrity, then why the fuck do you bother?
If you want an example of what I'm talking about, just look what Barnsley have achieved.
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I am sure we will all be going into next season hoping for the playoffs but at the same time we could have very easily been relegated had not beaten Rotherham, which was crucial. For me then it is balancing hope with realism. If we can build year on year and be in a position to challenge for the playoffs within 3, I would say that would be massive progress, and not at all negative.
 
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no_loyalty

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #19
A top half finish next season should be the aim, hopefully we start the season well and get points on the board early.
 

AOM

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #20
Think 15th or above would be a successful season, but am expecting another tough run in and potentially worrying about being in touch of the relegation places again
 
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fatso

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #21
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Robins said post match comparisons to Barnsley are pointless as they’ve spent £2m to acquire a loan player.
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And yet they have Connor Chaplin up front, a guy who wasnt good enough for us in league one.
It's not always about the money you splash, there are loads of clubs who finished below Barnsley who spent a lot more money.
It's about raising the expectation level, having a target, having a plan to achieve the target, and getting everyone to buy into it.
Moaning about not having enough money is just making excuses.
How much did our player of the year O'hare cost us, or Walker or Dabo ?
 
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cov donkey kick

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #22
Next season defensively concede far less goals even a total of 45 .
Position 13th upwards as a improvement.
We need a keeper that takes crosses and organises the defence. Another CB and a target man striker,gyo would be good as he's potential and if he played as many games as max he would have scored more goals.
If we sign James and sheaf we don't need a lot in midfield as we will have Jodi Jones back also.
So think we will improve further next season.
 
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skybluesam66

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #23
Barnsley said:
Due to the fact you had a few loan players, and a couple of stand out performers this season, squad retention and permanent signings are a must this summer for your club. A good rebuild this summer could set you up for a good few years. You’ve given yourself something to build on, it’s imperative you do so, to avoid being perennial relegation battlers.
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I would expect to finish above Barnsley next season who I would expect to be in the bottom third
 

skyblueelephant76

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #24
fatso said:
And yet they have Connor Chaplin up front, a guy who wasnt good enough for us in league one.
It's not always about the money you splash, there are loads of clubs who finished below Barnsley who spent a lot more money.
It's about raising the expectation level, having a target, having a plan to achieve the target, and getting everyone to buy into it.
Moaning about not having enough money is just making excuses.
How much did our player of the year O'hare cost us, or Walker or Dabo ?
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Chaplin has played in less than half of their games this season, their main forward 2nd half of the season is the one they spent the massive loan fee on.

The key is to progress each season, expectation should be to finish higher than 16th.
 

Barnsley

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #25
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Robins said post match comparisons to Barnsley are pointless as they’ve spent £2m to acquire a loan player.
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We’ve smashed our transfer record to loan a player for a month. The club must be ran by idiots.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #26
South West Sky Blue said:
At the start of this season I expected us to finish one spot above relegation. Up until Rotherham away we were generally on course for that. The last few games went very well and we obviously ended up on 55 points. Has this purple patch skewed expectations for next season?

How does everyone expect next season to go? I appreciate we don’t yet know the playing personnel. We also want to keep an upwards trajectory, but I’d take 55 points right now! Would we accept 20th place next year?
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No. We need to keep progressing.

With a fully fit Godden and Walker to rely on, you’d think we’d have a lot more goal scoring capability which hampered us for a lot of this season. I don’t think it’s far fetched to think to say we’d be a few points better off those two being fully fit alone.

Looking at Barnsley and Luton, I have every confidence that we can build on survival in our first year!
 

kg82

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #27
However we do, looks like it won’t be against Pompey. Currently screwing up their play-off spot.
 

fatso

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #28
skyblueelephant76 said:
Chaplin has played in less than half of their games this season, their main forward 2nd half of the season is the one they spent the massive loan fee on.

The key is to progress each season, expectation should be to finish higher than 16th.
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So are we saying that we are potentially only 1 decent striker away from a play off finish?
I'd take that, let's hope MR can find that decent striker.
 

fatso

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #29
kg82 said:
However we do, looks like it won’t be against Pompey. Currently screwing up their play-off spot.
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Oxford fans cant believe their luck!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #30
Lincoln to win the play offs please
 

kg82

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #31
fatso said:
Oxford fans cant believe their luck!
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Could see it happening. Accrington are one of those teams that’ll do this if you’re bottle-jobs! Also wouldn’t be surprised if Sunderland bottle it. In terrible form going into them.
 
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1234CCFC

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #32
An odd target.. but I would like to see us aiming for a 0 GD. Stoke finished on -2 a couple of places above us. Crucially it would show we are scoring more and conceding less (ideally). I think this would lend itself to a fairly mid table finish also!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #33
1234CCFC said:
An odd target.. but I would like to see us aiming for a 0 GD. Stoke finished on -2 a couple of places above us. Crucially it would show we are scoring more and conceding less (ideally). I think this would lend itself to a fairly mid table finish also!
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Random question:

What happens if every single game in a season is drawn 0-0?
 

Briles

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #34
Positional progress even if its one place. Slowly slowly.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #35
I think we overperformed this season, so if we finish about the same next season, I will be happy - particularly if we have strengthened the overall squad. i would then hope for an improvement the following season. Injuries to key personnel can have such an effect over the season, that it can easily affect league position by several places, 13-18th next season is fine, and change that to 10th-15th the following season (hopefully higher!!)
 
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