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jordan210

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  • May 4, 2021
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Was hoping with staying up and moving to Ricoh would have attracted a big name. But Money is money.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #2
jordan210 said:


Was hoping with staying up and moving to Ricoh would have attracted a big name. But Money is money.
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Sounds like we’ve done well. This is good news
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 4, 2021
  • #3
Can't really argue if it is the best offer on the table.
 

clint van damme

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #4
Anyone got an account with them?
They any good?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #5
jordan210 said:


Was hoping with staying up and moving to Ricoh would have attracted a big name. But Money is money.
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Who were you hoping for? Most Premier League clubs are sponsored by betting firms
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #6
clint van damme said:
Anyone got an account with them?
They any good?
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i have one and it’s ok but a pain when I wanted to change the expiry date on my card as I had to ring up.
 

higgs

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  • May 4, 2021
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clint van damme said:
Anyone got an account with them?
They any good?
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Have an account with them but rarely win but guess that's to be expected

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #8
I’ll continue not buying shirts with the sponsor on, sorry I just despise gambling companies
 
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jordan210

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #9
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Who were you hoping for? Most Premier League clubs are sponsored by betting firms
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No idea. But wasn't there noise being made about banning betting firm sponsorship in the Skybet leagues.
 
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wingy

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #10
For me sponsorship has ruined most sports.
Start of the rot that saw six clubs attempt to set up the ESL.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #11
wingy said:
For me sponsorship has ruined most sports.
Start of the rot that saw six clubs attempt to set up the ESL.
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Tend to agree Wingy. But I guess it's a bit like a vicious circle, isn't it?! If there was no sponsorship, the sporting landscape would look vastly different.
 

Irish Sky Blue

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  • May 4, 2021
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Skyblueweeman said:
Tend to agree Wingy. But I guess it's a bit like a vicious circle, isn't it?! If there was no sponsorship, the sporting landscape would look vastly different.
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I'm not sure it would. It just seems that whatever money comes into the game it very quickly leaves again in the pockets of the players and their agents.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • May 4, 2021
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Irish Sky Blue said:
I'm not sure it would. It just seems that whatever money comes into the game it very quickly leaves again in the pockets of the players and their agents.
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Agree but what money is used to pay the players? Less money in sponsorship, less money for the players. Sponsorship money not only goes towards players/owners etc. Training ground, stadium, community/charitable schemes, medical facilities etc.

Take away the money, stadiums are less shiny and arguably smaller, training grounds are basic, less work in the community etc. Just a totally more stripped back experience than what we have.
 

Irish Sky Blue

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  • May 4, 2021
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Skyblueweeman said:
Agree but what money is used to pay the players? Less money in sponsorship, less money for the players. Sponsorship money not only goes towards players/owners etc. Training ground, stadium, community/charitable schemes, medical facilities etc.

Take away the money, stadiums are less shiny and arguably smaller, training grounds are basic, less work in the community etc. Just a totally more stripped back experience than what we have.
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If the money is used in that way then fair enough. The big reason why football clubs have so many financial difficulties, as far as I can see, is because of the daft wages that they pay their players.
I think if football imploded financially, that wouldn't be the end, clubs would start up again but hopefully with a much more sustainable model which would involve playing players and their agents a lot less money.
 
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skybluesam66

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  • May 4, 2021
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It does say we had a better deal off City Link back in 2011/12
 

robbiekeane

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  • May 4, 2021
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skybluesam66 said:
It does say we had a better deal off City Link back in 2011/12
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If we got a two year deal though boylesports are risking one of those years being for a league one club if we get relegated. Maybe less of a risk back in 2011/12 ironically lol
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #17
I don’t get the moral aversion to betting companies on a shirt. It’s just a name - as far as I’m concerned the more money put in the club the better
 
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skybluesam66

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  • May 4, 2021
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I don’t get the moral aversion to betting companies on a shirt. It’s just a name - as far as I’m concerned the more money put in the club the better
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we had one when we won the FA cup = dont remember the uproar then
 

Adge

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  • May 4, 2021
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I don’t get the moral aversion to betting companies on a shirt. It’s just a name - as far as I’m concerned the more money put in the club the better
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Yep-when we all used to watch the “Embassy” world snooker championships didn’t mean we went and purchased 20 fags during the mid session interval.
 
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Sky Blue Dal

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #20
Granada was Bingo operators. is that classed as betting?
 
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edgy

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #21
Sky Blue Dal said:
Granada was Bingo operators. is that classed as betting?
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You pay for your Bingo card, from which you can win or lose money. So yeah, it's gambling.
 
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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • May 4, 2021
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Oooh it's the same debate that we had as last year! Using a betting company is the best commercial deal for the club, BSB and others object to it morally. I think both sides are perfectly acceptable and we can hopefully just move on from it without a seventy page argument over the pros and cons of extra finance vs encouraging betting which no one will gain anything from as those with strong views either way aren't going to alter them.
 

chiefdave

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  • May 4, 2021
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We could probably just link back to the thread from last year, my thoughts haven't really changed. It would be great to be in a position financially where we could take a moral stance and turn away this type of sponsor but unless there's someone waiting in the wings to takeover at a similar rate its not really something we can turn down at the moment.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #24
Adge said:
Yep-when we all used to watch the “Embassy” world snooker championships didn’t mean we went and purchased 20 fags during the mid session interval.
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The club puts out a special offer bet every match day on a certain result or player to score, the Facebook page has 143,000 people and Twitter similar. If advertising doesn’t work and get people signing up to their product, why do they do it?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #25
chiefdave said:
We could probably just link back to the thread from last year, my thoughts haven't really changed. It would be great to be in a position financially where we could take a moral stance and turn away this type of sponsor but unless there's someone waiting in the wings to takeover at a similar rate its not really something we can turn down at the moment.
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I understand the club’s commercial reasons particularly when finances have taken a hit this season. At the same time as someone who has lost very large sums to problem gambling in the past and knowing that the bulk of profits come from people like me I have a strong moral objection.

People who haven’t suffered won’t get it
 

Greggs

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #26
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’ll continue not buying shirts with the sponsor on, sorry I just despise gambling companies
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bet you a tenner you end up getting one
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #27
Greggs said:
bet you a tenner you end up getting one
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Five grand says the away kit’s red
 

Liquid Gold

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #28
I'd rather betting companies weren't allowed at all but as they are we can't put ourselves at a disadvantage.

Also, comparing a fucking bingo hall in the 80s to a gaming app now that you can access 24/7 wherever you are in the world while you're constantly bombarded by advertisements is ludicrous. Just because you don't have a problem doesn't mean others don't struggle, have some fucking empathy.
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #29
Cool , no issue whatsoever
 

shmmeee

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #30
Adge said:
Yep-when we all used to watch the “Embassy” world snooker championships didn’t mean we went and purchased 20 fags during the mid session interval.
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Love this argument, which is basically “the richest and most powerful organisations in the world believe heavily in the power of marketing but I, a random dude on the internet, know better”.

Of course marketing influences or we wouldn’t spend billions on it each year.
 
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Adge

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #31
shmmeee said:
Love this argument, which is basically “the richest and most powerful organisations in the world believe heavily in the power of marketing but I, a random dude on the internet, know better”.

Of course marketing influences or we wouldn’t spend billions on it each year.
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In certain instances I would agree. If you required a new bed and there was a sale on as advertised on the TV, most in that situation would go to the advertised shop or more likely nowadays the website.
If we see a F1 car with John Player Specials driving around Silverstone the same doesn’t apply.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • May 4, 2021
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Adge said:
In certain instances I would agree. If you required a new bed and there was a sale on as advertised on the TV, most in that situation would go to the advertised shop or more likely nowadays the website.
If we see a F1 car with John Player Specials driving around Silverstone the same doesn’t apply.
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So the gambling companies are doing it out of pure goodwill and not because a large number of football fans will gamble/potential to gamble?

Half of Premier League clubs to have gambling sponsors for 2019-20 season

Half of the Premier League’s shirts will be emblazoned with a gambling company’s logo during the 2019-20 season, reigniting concern about the normalisation of betting among young fans
www.google.co.uk
 

Adge

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #33
SlowerThanPlatt said:
So the gambling companies are doing it out of pure goodwill and not because a large number of football fans will gamble/potential to gamble?

Half of Premier League clubs to have gambling sponsors for 2019-20 season

Half of the Premier League’s shirts will be emblazoned with a gambling company’s logo during the 2019-20 season, reigniting concern about the normalisation of betting among young fans
www.google.co.uk
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Depends on the mindset of the person or target I guess.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #34
If we got Burger King on our shirts as Stevenage(?) did, are you likely enough to go out and gorge yourself into obesity?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • May 4, 2021
  • #35
Adge said:
Depends on the mindset of the person or target I guess.
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Would you agree the continued investment into football from these companies shows they’re getting the results they want?
 
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