12 year old raped in nuneaton (9 Viewers)

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

The pay and conditions immigrant workers put up with simply would not be accept by British workers.

Companies won't take a cut to their profits, look at the uproar every time minimum wage increases or there is the slightest increase in workers right, so you have to work out how you deal with price increases and the impact on inflation and the economy.

We've been reliant on labour paid poverty wages for so long we've back ourselves into a corner.

Which leaves us with two potential outcomes

Either we realise the current way we live is grossly unfair and change it, or we end up destroying ourselves pandering to the greedy, who not matter how much they get will always want more.

Basically we need to realise Enough is Enough.

 

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[CCFCSteve]

It should be possible to make the initial decision much quicker but even with the current process there's a huge shortage of qualified staff, this results in a large amount of wrong decisions, 48% of which get overturned at appeal.

It's the appeals process that takes forever as it's long and complex. The cost, in terms of keeping asylum seekers accommodated and fed during that period, providing the relevant legal assistance and the admin cost of the process itself must be huge.

Work out what is going wrong so that the vast majority of initial decisions are correct and you immediately relieve a large part of the system and free up staff.

Having said all that I wouldn't be surprised if it's policy to maximise how many applications are turned down at the initial stage and just hope people don't appeal. That certainly seems to be the case in the care system, at least from my experience.

Yeah, pretty much what I was saying yesterday Dave, with some shocking stats. Something like 55k currently in appeals process and it takes on average 54 weeks per appeal. 80k awaiting initial decision, loads will go into appeal process and new arrivals every day. Totally unsustainable

Cooper is trying to accelerate appeal process to a matter of weeks (got to happen). As I said I’d have used Rwanda for rejected males appealing and/or those committing any offence during process

 

[fatso]

Countries that do that do it in international waters to avoid international law. There’s no international water in the channel so if you want to “turn them back” without France agreeing you’re talking about invading France.

That's not a bad idea tbf.

Im sure if the will was there, we could temporarily stop all immigration, (the boats are just the tip of the iceberg)

The issue i see is that I really dont think the government have the will.

 

[shmmeee]

That's not a bad idea tbf.

Im sure if the will was there, we could temporarily stop all immigration, (the boats are just the tip of the iceberg)

The issue i see is that I really dont think the government have the will.

The will was there under the Tories. I think it is under Labour. It’s pretty clear a good 40-50% of the country have it as a top issue regardless. The options really aren’t straight forward. There’s a 2-1 majority for staying in the EHCR and that’s probably the bare minimum if you want to do more than legal routes and agreements with France. But then if you’re sticking two fingers up at France maybe they get even less helpful and start happily sending more our way?

Its easy if you’re an authoritarian gulf state and don’t give a fuck about killing a few in shithole prisons, or the Aussies and can just pop out to international waters cos there no fucker for miles you need to maintain a relationship with.

 

[rob9872]

Countries that do that do it in international waters to avoid international law. There’s no international water in the channel so if you want to “turn them back” without France agreeing you’re talking about invading France.

Option 1 - line up the navy 100m from the French coast and tow them back to the beach.

Option 2 - chum the channel

Solved!

 

[shmmeee]

Option 1 - line up the navy 100m from the French coast and tow them back to the beach.

Option 2 - chum the channel

Solved!

The fact that this clearly insane suggestion seems to be the closest to a serious answer kind of proves my point. People hopped up on one too many episodes of Dads Army.

Also:

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

Man charged with sexual assault after Rugby incident

Ahmed Muhammad Almahi, 32, was charged following an incident in Rugby, Warwickshire Police says.

www.bbc.co.uk

And another one. Looks like he is staying in a Migrant hotel in Crick.

 

[wingy]

Man charged with sexual assault after Rugby incident

Ahmed Muhammad Almahi, 32, was charged following an incident in Rugby, Warwickshire Police says.

www.bbc.co.uk

And another one. Looks like he is staying in a Migrant hotel in Crick.

That's quite a way to travel by any transport and I doubt he had access to a car.

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

That's quite a way to travel by any transport and I doubt he had access to a car.

Its only 5 or 6 miles from Crick to Rugby.

 

[wingy]

Its only 5 or 6 miles from Crick to Rugby.

Oh sorry it always seemed longer when I was travelling and trying to get home after working a long shift in London.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Tbf if it was an option I would. Say those who are here can stay, but no more.

I know there will be replies about needing them for the NHS and services, just pay those what they are worth and the shortage will diminish.

We have poor outdated infrastructure all over the country, creeping services, spiralling debt and not enough houses. Some will blame all of that on 14 years of Tory rule, but if they're honest it's much, much longer.

Spend a generation repairing what we have and preparing for the future. If we don't it will only get worse.

I mean at least you’re honest.

 

[wingy]

I mean at least you’re honest.

He's probably right tbf, trouble is economists will figure out a way to make all those gains for us disappear down some globalists throat.