Brighton Sky Blue
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Left wing populism seems to have worked fine in Mexico.
Left wing populism seems to have worked fine in Mexico.We’ve allowed unis to be run totally inefficiently, chancellors being paid a fortune, spending loads on buildings etc but it’s all built on milking foreign students and kids that would probably be far better off not going to uni to start with.
Like getting cheap foreign labour in rather than investing in people, improving their skills and paying what they’re due (why do you think so much of big business didn’t want Brexit) or companies/ organisations investing in equipment/machinery etc to make them more productive and efficient
All short term shit, no long term vision or people willing to make tough decisions (see governments recently). The chickens are now coming home to roost though and I don’t think any political party has got a clue on how to sort it out, which leaves us open to populism and parties like Reform, Corbyn/Sultanas lot all promising the earth with no substance/idea of how to deliver it
No, there's a huge difference in public sector being used as a broad brush. If care is where its at and I include Nursing, im fine with that. Administors not so much.There you go again ascribing arguments to people who didn’t make them.
I agree that the pay for the jobs and conditions also need to improve. The problem is that requires you to do things you have opposed before, like improving these for public sector workers.
Left wing populism seems to have worked fine in Mexico.
Yep courseI guess people just need to see their services improving while taxes and costs go up, rather than taxes and costs going up but services declining.
His many have gone back today? It doesn’t say?
You said it doesn't ensure any are returned when on its very first day it quite literally ensured some are were returned.
Don’t think it is working in Argentina. Mexico however have had left wing populists in for some time and their approval rating is still through the roof.so is right wing populism in Argentina, doesn’t mean I think it would work here
Edit - will look into Mexico as don’t really know much about what’s gone on
Teachers?No, there's a huge difference in public sector being used as a broad brush. If care is where its at and I include Nursing, im fine with that. Administors not so much.
Breaking up the Union to own the libs!For what purpose? Although if i did have my way I'd make Ireland one nation.
Put the UK first by breaking it upBreaking up the Union to own the libs!
You said less kids so there would be an oversupply of teachers and their wages would reduceTeachers?
I'm sure they will be happy with that!!You said less kids so there would be an oversupply of teachers and their wages would reduce
Not what I had in mind to get class sizes down tbfYou said less kids so there would be an oversupply of teachers and their wages would reduce
Think I still have my union merch from the last strikes…I'm sure they will be happy with that!!
No it doesn’t? France have 28 days to agree to each one recommended and then as the article states there will be High Court action taken to block deportation - one lawyer on 5 live predicted the court process alone will take 6 months
Presumably you've been fully supportive when the likes of bin men, nurses, doctors, teachers, amazon workers, rail workers strike for better pay and conditions?We only need people to fill those jobs because they're poorly paid. That can be addressed.
I'm also not sure why we need so many students including our own. Universities used to be for the elite not to prop up a failing economy of grifters who don't want to work.
worked so well we decided to do the same with schoolsWe’ve allowed unis to be run totally inefficiently, chancellors being paid a fortune
Nurses, doctors yes. The rest no. Different argument.Presumably you've been fully supportive when the likes of bin men, nurses, doctors, teachers, amazon workers, rail workers strike for better pay and conditions?
Relatively speaking in a short space of time, at least in economic terms, we've seen huge technological advances which mean you need less people to output the same amount, closed down most of our manufacturing industry, offshored everything we could, moved large numbers on to zero hours contracts in the gig economy and added a large number of women to the workforce.
Put simply between staff and students you've accounted for about 3.5m people. That's about 10% of the working age population you don't need to worry about.
Now you could say move those people to the care sectors and other industries short of staff but its easier said than done. Look at the number of kids and uni grads complaining about applying for hundreds of jobs but not getting anything while there's all these vacancies. How do you increase the pay and conditions in those roles to attract people? Relatively small pay increases in other sectors we are told comes with the risk of financial meltdown for the country. You'd probably be looking at 25-50% pay increases for people to consider some of those jobs.
I'm already getting into debt paying my Dads care costs, if they shot up overnight I'd be fucked and I'm far from the only one.
No, don't accept illegal immigrants who are unchecked, add nothing to our society, hide doing jobs on the black market and who through their culture can't accept teenage girls walking the dog, visiting friends and going to the shops without being proposition or sexually assaultedBan net contributors to the economy coming in
Ban people we need to fill jobs coming in
Accept students and tourists because they put money into the economy
Got it right?
Would we be able to deport any illegal migrants here currently, that would help.No, don't accept illegal immigrants who are unchecked, add nothing to our society, hide doing jobs on the black market and who through their culture can't accept teenage girls walking the dog, visiting friends and going to the shops without being proposition or sexually assaulted
Yes stop them coming in with force, if a few dingys sink then tough, may put a stop to it.Would we be able to deport any illegal migrants here currently, that would help.
Could we use non lethal weapons to pop the boats as they come over?Yes stop them coming in with force, if a few dingys sink then tough, may put a stop to it.
Don’t think it is working in Argentina. Mexico however have had left wing populists in for some time and their approval rating is still through the roof.
No, don't accept illegal immigrants who are unchecked
Yes stop them coming in with force, if a few dingys sink then tough, may put a stop to it.
Once they're here they are difficult to find as they blend in with people here legally. Having similar names is deliberate I'm sureWould we be able to deport any illegal migrants here currently, that would help.
For the millionth time, a lot of these ‘illegals’ are asylum seekers waiting for a decision, and you can’t be an illegal asylum seeker until the claim is rejected.No, don't accept illegal immigrants who are unchecked, add nothing to our society, hide doing jobs on the black market and who through their culture can't accept teenage girls walking the dog, visiting friends and going to the shops without being proposition or sexually assaulted
Same as the asylum seekers in Sweden who go back to their native country for holidays once their claim has been accepted.For the millionth time, a lot of these ‘illegals’ are asylum seekers waiting for a decision, and you can’t be an illegal asylum seeker until the claim is rejected.
But they're already in France, stay there !We don't accept any asylum seekers until they are checked.
'If dozens of people die then tough'. Come on, we're better than that.
Are we the baddies?Could we use non lethal weapons to pop the boats as they come over?
I'd give it a tryCould we use non lethal weapons to pop the boats as they come over?
But they're already in France, stay there !
No, don't accept illegal immigrants who are unchecked, add nothing to our society, hide doing jobs on the black market and who through their culture can't accept teenage girls walking the dog, visiting friends and going to the shops without being proposition or sexually assaulted
-and if there's one thing we've learned in the last 30 miles of channel crossing, it's that the French Navy is in dire need of mechanisationAre we the baddies?
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