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I don't disagree wit that, but coming off the bench and doing better than Max or Baka doesn't mean we'd have had a 5 million Championship striker on our hands.

mate, I can cane it all weekend and still pull off a Cruyffesque performance at 5 a side on a Monday.

protesting against the Glazers. Looks like a couple of them have got the carry out, haha!

fuck going round there for Sunday dinner

but that doesn't mean he'd be worth 5 million if he'd stayed with us. Sometimes the move is best for both parties and I think that was the case with him.

this isn't the first time that's been mentioned, is it true or just a rumour?

I know football is about opinions but what the hell? Utter madness.

No doubt it took its toll on all the players involved with so many mid week games, but it must have been worse for Hamer given what he was used to.

It really was intense. I looked at it a while ago and from memory I think he played around 30 games before Christmas and had played 48 in the previous two seasons in Holland.

His body must have been in shock the number of games he played pre Christmas compared to what he was used to in Holland. I expect big things from him next season (wherever he is)

Good analysis that. I think his actual assist rate being low is down to our striker issues. Would definitely have been better if Walker and Godden had stayed fit.

I didn't realise the working class were an homogenous mass until Brendan pointed it out. Must have a huge brain behind that massive forehead.

Sat in the garden as we speak. It really is a beautiful day.

The thing is the player has to show some signs that he's got something that can be worked on and im not sure Shipley has at this level. Would be delighted to be proven wrong.

Get down the city Arms and get a beer and chill out you cynical git. (you're right though)

Pont of order, today wasn't a dead rubber, they still could have gone down

which isn't Walkers fault. And I thought he was OK first half and the change was tactical. But back to Shipley, I'll defend against some of the undeserved vitriol that comes his way and hes been a part of some great days/nights of recent times, but I think his days are numbered. He actually...

you get a like for that

Clint Van Damme at 5 a side, a whole succession of mangers have failed to spot his potential.

not saying you did, just a general observation.