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It's not allowed to be debt is it? Doesn't it have to be put in as equity?

Isn't there an SCG meeting next Tuesday? Might be some news then.

Which could take years. In the mean time we will need equity stakes from SISU to keep the playing budget up to maintain championship status. That clearly isn't going to happen. So best case scenario is we end up in leagye one with a newly expanded stadium to 20K. Why not just do that in the...

If they were planning for different outcomes from the start the words 12-15K wouldn't have been mentioned in the first place. It would be 20k with potential fo expansion.

If we get promoted during the build we're building a white elephant. We'd have to start the planning process all over again and get approvals, that could take years. In the meantime we've bitten of our noses to spite our face and lost millions of the playing budget because we can't sell 20k of...

I thought the problem was a lack of revenue limiting our playing budget not the atmosphere? 12-15k is going to hit the playing budget in the championship, crowds will dwindle, we'll drop a league, optomism will diminish, crowds will drop, playing budget will come down etc. etc. It's commiting...

Now you're just being stupid. You look at the history of the club and it's demographic. I'm not even suggesting that we need a 32k stadium, I'm suggesting 20k with the potential to rise to at least 25k. We're in a strong position to be in the championship as early as next season and we know...

Well. There's only one certainty with the lottery. If you don't buy a ticket you can't win. What's being suggested means that we haven't bought a ticket.

Exactly. Based on what we know we can achieve in terms of crowds in the championship we're going to rob ourselves of £1.9m - £3m in ticket revenue every season, not including cup games. We're going to have to be selling an awful lot of pie's to be better off and that's even before you consider...

So you'll agree then that cutting you're potential paying customer base from 32k to 12-15k while your competition has the potential to attract 32k paying customers is commercially shooting yourself in the foot.

Here's a thought. What if the Butts park story is a red herring and not about a rent deal at the Ricoh? It's an old trick in planning. If you have some land for development that's a difficult sell to the local community and likely to be strongly apposed they put in a ridiculous over the top...

It's simple maths. Currently their biggest competition is CCFC with the potential to draw 32k. Overnight that potential is going to halve and then some. It halves CCFC's potential because it has overnight lost 50% capacity of it's biggest revenue, ticket sales. Wasps biggest competition now only...

Wasn't the existing planning consent outline? It's a big difference to getting detailed consent.

Firstly and I'm sure I've mentioned this before to you that I'm only Toni at the weekends. Secondly we can't run the risk of SISU throwing the club out of the frying pan into an even hotter fire. If they're going to build a stadium what's been suggested it's going to send the club backwards not...

Not the one SISU put a picture out of. It was designed as a bog standard stadium made in modular form. In fact wasn't the picture just a rehash of someone else's stadium?

Why would it? I know the stadium that they were talking about was modular (I think that's what they called it) but that was for a green fields sight with plenty of spare space for forward planning and potential for expansion. The butts doesn't offer that luxury. It's tight and constricted. I...

Stadium planned? You've seen the plan's then? What if we're already re-established ourselves in the championship (that could start as early as next season) and we get back upto the 20K we were once experiencing in the championship? What if the unthinkable happened, we made the playoffs and...

No we won't. We'll have a club with a mountain of historical debt, fresh debt from a stadium build and an inferior stadium at that which gives little to zero chance of ever paying that debt of. How's that appealing?

What was the average overall last time we were in the premier league? How does that compare to the average overall in the premier league now.?

You know I always thought it was an act but it isn't. You clearly are that stupid.