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I mentioned before (possibly on this thread) that a rumour doing the rounds in the short circuit motorsport world is that is where Brandon's replacement is going and it will be the new home of the Bee's and other motorsport that currently happens at Brandon. That's the rumour anyway. You'll...

I'd take it to. I think housing is a non starter. Industrial is the most likely use but whatever happens there I can only ever see access being an issue.

I never said you did Dave and neither was my post directed at you. As for regards as to believing or dismissing it as BS that wasn't the point I was making. It was being denied that it had ever been said and as you agree that is indeed fabricated nonsense. That's all I was pointing out...

You mean that only one will ever be held to account?

I accept perfectly that they were probably just negotiation tools. Unfortunately the fact that they were overstated and then under used (I.e. No serious bid was placed) seems to have some posters in denial that they were ever said at all. I think if you look at all the times they've stated...

It's funny that when Grendull trips himself up he can always rely upon Bob, Dave and Stuart to come running to catch him with a bit of deflection. So what do you three think? Do you accept that SISU stated that they want the unencumbered freehold? There's enough links to prove without doubt...

I've never said I have no interest in CCFC. Just that I have no interest in talking about on field stuff on here as I can no longer take the sight seriously. But you keep fabricating the facts. It's what you're best at.

Do you now accept that SISU said that they wanted the unencumbered freehold? Or is that still fabricated nonsense?

They only printed it to demoralise the team ahead of our next game. Either that or to promote wasps.

I think the only thing that was fabricated nonsense was grendull stating that it was fabricated nonsense. It was clearly said and then repeated and in this case was attributed to Joy Seppala herself.

Extract from the Les Reid article in your link. "Mr Fisher re-iterated Sisu boss Joy Seppala was calling for a sale of the “unincumbered freehold” owned by Coventry City Council." Presumably when Grendull says this is "fabricated nonsense" he's accusing Les Reid of fabricating it. Its now...

Here's what the BBC reported on the 14th of January, again on my phone so can't do a link but it's still on their website if you google it. "Coventry City Council is willing to consider bids for the Ricoh Arena and the surrounding land, the authority's leader has confirmed. Councillor Ann...

I'm just pointing out that for a piece of "fabricated nonsense" it seems to get referenced alot and by people who clearly come at the whole mess from different angles. If everyone with different agendas is using it that's usually a good indication that it's true. You say it's fabricated I'm...

Well if it is fabricated nonsense like you claim I guess that the real question is who fabricated it? Les Reid certainly believed it enough to post it on twitter, sorry on my phone so can't do a link but here's what he said and when "Sisu want unencumbered freehold or new long lease & ACL...

Oh come on. If joy had have placed any sort of interest in ACL and it was dismissed completely TF and ML wouldn't have been able to contain themselves, they couldn't have gone a week without exploding. If SISU knew there was no chance then they had absolutely nothing to lose by placing a bid...

Only they weren't turned down they didn't have an appetite to move forward as neither did Higgs as ruled in a court of law and has never been appealed so is probably the only one confirmed fact in this whole soap opera. Also that was for the Higgs share not the council share so when you say...

And I didn't say otherwise. But to suggest that SISU never talked about only wanting stadium ownership (freehold, unencumbered or otherwise) is BS.

I'm not talking for Italia I'm talking for myself. Torch has made a statement and I've asked him for clarity.

I wasn't talking about the unencumbered freehold. I was asking about a leasehold and the lack of a bid for one despite SISU willing to apparently take one. So why no bid? She had the council leader in front of her in her own office and didn't make a bid. Why not? As you've pointed out yourself...

If you don't want to answer the question (and why would you, the only honest answer contradicts your argument) it's probably better to say nothing at all.