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No you retain a manager who's best qualified to do the job under the constraints said manager has to work under. If sacking managers was the answer we'd be drooling over a champions league final now. We went backwards under Peter Read over a sensible measured period of time. We havent done that...

Look how long it took Fergie to sort the club out before going on to achieve football immortality at Man U. Some of the posters on here would have had him sacked within six months and then spent the next twelve years complaining that they'd never won anything.

I stated opinion not fact. I quoted three possible scenarios and pointed out which one I feel is most likely to be nearest the truth. You don't agree with my opinion and that's fair enough however as you haven't given an opposite opinion you're clearly arguing for the sake of arguing. That...

Why don't you tell me? You've clearly done the legwork and know all the fees and wages of all the moves. What's Maddison got to do with it? Oh, I see. You can't attack the point so you attack the poster. Same old same old with you.

He may have also signed the best he could afford under the constraints of the budget. So was it TM's "duff decision" or was it a "duff" budget or do we just accept that that is the situation and we just have to pick the best of a bad bunch and hope they come good rather than struggle on with a...

Do you?

It's not a question. As usual with you it's a trip wire. Grow up and either make your point or shut up.

You're a grown man behaving like a child. Not really a point you needed to make. Most of us sussed that out yonks ago.

Just make your point and stop acting like a child.

Woop woop. Leading question alert.

Block pave? Pstt... ... you mean diamond encrust.

I think at our level you either have to back the manager financially or give him time. SISU want to run the club on a neutral footing (not saying that's a bad thing but I'd prefer a sugar daddy owner) and a large section of our fan base don't want to give him any time. Basically TM is fucked...

Anybody know what a single match day ticket will be next season? Also will there still be pay on the gate?

Hucks. With his pace he'd have terrorised defences in this league and with the standard of refereeing being what it is in this league his lack of ability to work out the offside rule wouldn't have mattered so much ;)

By no means am I counting my chickens before they hatch but this has to be a positive ahead of next season. This time last year we didn't have a full time manager in place, MV's name hadn't even been mentioned so if we were talking to players ahead of this season it's possible that it was SW...

I liked it. Must have been too intellectual for you Nick?

Fucking hell Moff ;) . I never suggested I was the only one that realised this. I believe that everyone realises this. The issue I have is when the bleeding obvious is pointed out some (that's not all, the majority or anything similar. In fact I believe it to be a small fraction of our fan base)...

The terms would have been agreed. It would have been pretty pointless having the full council meeting to rubber stamp it otherwise. I don't know why you're acting so surprised by that. That's pretty obvious I would have thought? What's Shapiro got to do with SISU having never tabled a bid? Are...

Considering the size and duration of the sorry mess I struggle to believe anything it might have contributed to it wouldn't even register as a drop in the ocean.

Because it had to go to a full council meeting to be rubber stamped. When did that meeting happen again? Discussions about what exactly?