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They got the debt to the taxpayer cleared. Can’t imagine it will effect them at all.

To be fair you have Moff. I thought in most respects it was fairly sound but it’s not looking that way and I’m big enough to admit that, while also delighted that I was wrong. Maybe I should listen to you more. Only a little though;) what has surprised me is not so much that it is coming down...

You’re now starting to sound like all those posters who were trying to make out it was shit when we temporarily abandoned it while the Sixfields/administration nonsense was happening SISU were pretending that they were going to build a new stadium training ground and academy. It wasn’t shit then...

Which exactly my point. We have a higher standard of welfare in the EU than America in farming and struggle to police it. If we lower the bar again to allow British farmers to compete with American farmers whose bar is much lower we aren’t going to all of a sudden become more proficient in...

That’s general animal cruelty. We’re talking specifically about farming practices. Can you stay on subject please.

Already done. Can you provide a link?

Do I?

I haven’t made out that farming in Europe offers some kind of utopia for animals. I don’t buy danish pork products and I haven’t denied any of the articles linked to European farming. You however seem to be in denial that farming standards however bad they are in the EU are worse in the US.

Why do you keep coming back to chloroform chicken? That’s a process that happens after they die. I’m talking about the factory farming methods that happen in America and you know it but keep detracting to one point that’s irrelevant to the way that these animals are kept in when being raised...

Pig farming and force feeding geese in the EU is brutal, they also happen in the US and pig farming standards are worse again than the EU. Here’s the thing. I’m lucky enough to be able to afford locally sourced free range lamb, pork and beef that’s free ranged farmed to the highest standards and...

So we can’t enforce the EU standards at the moment but we will be able to enforce them when we leave? How’s that work?

If you’re a seller maybe. As a consumer it’s about animal welfare. But yet again you’re happy to justify something that goes against the grain of your “morals” so long as you can find some sort of political gain from it.

Cows that never leave a shed until they’re loaded on a trailer to go to slaughter having never walked on grass and grazed as Mother Nature intended is nothing to do with animal welfare issues? Haven’t you previously claimed to be very pro animal welfare including donating to animal welfare...

That would probably be good standards in the US. Only in Italy the EU have the powers to do something about it.

Depends on how you define compete. I don’t think that the current squad would be relegation fodder (which would be a bonus) but not convinced that they’ll be competing for promotion/playoffs.

The bare minimum would to be change nothing in how it’s currently policed. But not lie to you about how they’re going to do something different by doing the same thing.

That will be almost inevitable so British farmers can compete.

Begs the question that is this why May isn’t interested in maintaining the customs union with the EU? Pretty sure if we remained in the customs union with the EU that would scupper the the import of inferior meat from the US into the U.K.

Never mind. Just need people to start boycotting them now and going to watch CRFC or us instead and hopefully that will push them over the edge.

It’s not the safety of the meat that bothers me it’s the way it’s farmed. US fields are full of GM crops that are harvested to feed cows that never leave the shed and then have to have all sorts of shit injected into them to make the meat marble like it would naturally if they were allowed to...