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  1. skybluetony176

    I might be...

    Sounds like you haven’t drunk enough. In that case.
  2. skybluetony176

    I might be...

    ... very very drunk.
  3. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Mmm? CAP? By any chance does that stand for the Common Agricultural Policy? You know, like I just told you in the very post you quoted saying NO like I’ve got it wrong? It does doesn’t it? It’s also where James Dyson gets paid from. Billionaire Brexit backer Sir James Dyson was the biggest...
  4. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    That’s yet to be seen but I admire your optimism if nothing else. A bit like the £350M a week to the NHS.
  5. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    That’s because it is, it’s to do with the common agricultural policy. It’s not the same as saying it goes to farmers. Especially when you keep making the point that it goes to the land owners at the same time. Jesus, did you think I thought James Dyson spends all day sat on a tractor or something?
  6. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Give your own head a shake. I’ve never said it does go to the farmers, I’ve repeatedly said land owner. The whole point I’ve been making is that it goes to the land owners, such as James Dyson. In some cases the land owner is also the farmer but in other cases the farmer is a tenant and the...
  7. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    According to Gove we’re going to keep paying farming subsidies when we leave at the current EU rates until 2022 at least. Gove sets out post-Brexit farm funding
  8. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You’d have to ask them that. It’s not because they’re not going to carry on getting subsidies once we leave though. Because they will.
  9. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It tells you in the opening paragraph of the article that you yourself have linked. “Britain’s wealthiest landowners are raking in millions of pounds of taxpayers money through the agricultural subsidy system, it is revealed today.” Seriously. Do you not read anything ever?
  10. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Tories have the single biggest representation in the Lords. Coupled with the DUP, UUP and even UKIP members, then you have to factor in pro brexit labour peers, even cross benchers and independents must have serious numbers of leavers given (as we’re often reminded) over half the population...
  11. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It’s farming subsidies. He gets it because he’s the land owner. It’s all in the article I linked for you. I have seen how many millions are wasted this way but it is naive to believe that they won’t carry on post brexit, it will. The only difference is it won’t be going via the EU. It will still...
  12. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Also you don’t know that Dyson will lose £1.6M. The government haven’t worked out yet how they’re going to pay out farming subsidies post brexit. He might even end up getting more for all we know.
  13. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    As do many members of the House of Lords who are land owners but pro brexit. So far today you’ve concluded that the House of Lords don’t want brexit because they’ll all lose their EU pensions when in fact less than 5% receive an EU pension and that they’re all rich land owners who don’t want...
  14. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Because they will. It was a big claim of the leave campaign and Gove is already talking about the new mechanisms of how it will be assessed and distributed. Currently Sir James Dysons farming business is one of the largest recipients of EU farming subsidies and he’s extremely pro brexit. EU...
  15. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    All of which has zero to do with the points I’ve raised. I’m not even sure Neil Kinnock is a member of the House of Lords is he? Land owners who receive farming subsidies will still receive subsidies post brexit, they’ll just receive them from the U.K. not the EU. You also fail to mention that...
  16. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    As always the devil is in the detail. Even the article says over 20. The correct number is 30. Doesn’t tell you any of that in the headline. Of those 30, 7 are ex commissioners. Commissioner have to swear allegiance to the EU. This is why those 7 could lose payments. Again it doesn’t tell you...
  17. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    From what I’ve read 30 lords are ex MEP’s and receive an EU pension. 7 off these are ex commissioner and receive an extra £31K for this. No MEP is at risk of losing their pension if they speak out against the EU regardless if they’re a lord or not. Farage would have forfeited his long ago if...
  18. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Sounds like you’re an idiot.
  19. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Are you joining the Don’t read like Astute club? I’ve just said exactly that in the post you’ve quoted.
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