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  1. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Self interest group? Strange description for the NHS. Do you not know anyone who takes medicine on a regular basis for an ongoing condition? Do you not think you should be at least the slightest bit concerned if not for yourself for them?
  2. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Sensationalised? Probably. Shit? Definitely not. The most sensationalised is probably the article about red lines regarding immigration. The other two stories though are based on real concerns from the bodies that are on the front line of their respected industry and organisation. Why would you...
  3. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Brexit could result in 115,000 fewer care workers, finds study
  4. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Fishermen 'will not survive' Brexit no deal
  5. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Brexit red line SACRIFICED as May to WATER DOWN free movement pledge threatening future
  6. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    NHS 'not prepared' for no-deal Brexit
  7. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No one voted leave to be worse off unless they’re stupid. If the effects of brexit are irreversible we won’t be worse off short term we’ll just be worse off. You talk about setting up the younger generation but the younger generation wanted to remain so you’re being very disingenuous in claiming...
  8. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We didn’t vote leave at any cost. We voted leave on the understanding that leave would be better than remain. In the knowledge that that won’t be the case you want to deny people the right to reject it. Odd. Very odd. Turkeys voting for Xmas.
  9. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The EU is far from perfect. Don’t know how many times I’ve said that now. Just because I don’t think leaving is the answer to this imperfect world doesn’t make it my darling. Same as not swallowing everything Tommy Robinson spouts makes me a leftie.
  10. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    A deal that’s heavily loaded in the favour of the EU I would vote against given the opportunity. It’s you who’s willing to accept it without a say in whether we should or not. You seem to want to hand me the opportunity to say I told you so while I myself are willing to reject that opportunity...
  11. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Darling EU? This is what makes you ridiculous. It’s straight from the train of thought that if you don’t follow Tommy Robinson unquestionably you must be a leftie, you can’t just be normal. If the outcome is £8k no benefits and you go and look for another job the equivalent is leaving the EU...
  12. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It’s your scenario, not mine. Convoluted in your opinion seems to mean that I should accept your heavily loaded scenario without question. Your scenario suggests that we can only gain by leaving you’ve not allowed for the prospect of the final deal being a loss. I just brought balance to that...
  13. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It’s nothing to do with the EU. It’s our rules and regulations that are going to allow this to happen not EU rules. Did you actually read the article?
  14. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    And completely missed the point. Let’s take your scenario and have £10k and no benefits as the status quo as EU members. Your assumption is that the government are going to negotiate a salary increase with benefits, that’s an assumption. Now let’s make another assumption. Let’s assume that what...
  15. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I’ve added the bit you missed of. The accommodating nature means that the impact on the EU financial sector is mitigated, the same cannot be said for the EU financial sector dealing in the EU. For our financial sector it will be a hard brexit, not so for the EU financial sector. I thought that...
  16. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Interesting article. Seems a no deal scenario could be better for the EU than us. Certainly for the financial sector anyway. EU27 expected to keep City of London access after no-deal Brexit, says leading law firm
  17. skybluetony176

    Highfield Road Or The Ricoh ?

    Highfield Road all day long.
  18. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Further confirmation that you’re not the sharpest tool in the box. Can’t argue the points made so asks an irrelevant question to the points being made instead.
  19. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We should negotiate the best deal we can and then have a referendum on whether that is acceptable or not. Unlike the last referendum we would be voting on the terms and everyone would know exactly what they’re voting on. I know you’re not the sharpest tool in the box but don’t you think the...
  20. skybluetony176

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I was thinking the same about you. You seem to be saying that we don’t have the right to change our mind, which is as undemocratic as you can get. And then you go and tell someone else that Stalin would be proud, presumably you were referring to yourself. The people’s vote isn’t even a second...
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