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He doesn’t have a choice but to pay tax on it though. Are you suggesting that Greggs should be exclusive to higher taxpayers? I think Greggs business model isn’t geared that way. It’s not just products from Greggs either. Take sanitary towels for example. A multimillionairess pays the same tax...

True (I think). But that’s a percentage of a percentage. Income tax only accounts for around 30% of tax collected in the country. To simplify it if a lower tax earner and a higher tax earner go to Greggs and both buy a Cornish Pasty they both pay the same tax on it in the pound. However if the...

VAT hits low and middle earners hardest proportionately to income. Proportionately it could be the higher earners who take the hit for a change. The government wouldn’t have to put it on the lower rates, they do have the choice of putting on the higher rates instead.

Bent carrots. Although I’m not sure what horses are going to eat then. There is cheaper citrus fruit and the possibility of selling twice as many pigs ears to China. Blue passports was obviously bollocks and has taken a contract of a U.K. based company and handed it to an EU based company so...

Or gaining dual nationality for their children with an EU country.

Abolish it and increase income tax proportionately and fairly. Unlike VAT.

So no VAT hike has ever happened then as a result of it being in the elected governments manifesto then. Just like I said. Glad you agree with me. Not sure what ever made you suggest that a political party would put it in their election manifesto in the first place.

Pretty sure the government could make a lot of things that aren’t VAT exempt, exempt. There isn’t a definitive hymn sheet that all countries sing from with no artistic license. Lots of things are VAT exempt in Scandinavian countries especially that aren’t here and I know Malta is does the...

Fair enough. I was going from memory.

Infighting and the rise of false prophet Blair brought down the Major government. I do remember it being suggested by the Major government that VAT on heating be at the higher rate of VAT but it never happened following a rebellion. Was it in their manifesto? Don’t recall it. My memory is it was...

True. But I don’t think they did it for charitable reasons. Not my memory of it anyway.

For about a year during Browns reign as PM. It was a cynical gimmick (think it was described as a VAT holiday at the time IIRC) ahead of his one and only general election as PM. Didn’t work though, Con/Lib Dem coalition ousted him.

In the last 27 years VAT went up from 15% to 17.5% to 20%. Can’t ever remember them raises being in any manifesto. At that rate in another 27 years VAT in the U.K. is set to pass the EU threshold. I bet you it won’t be in any manifesto ever either.

So if we leave and VAT rises to 50% you would be happy with that because EU membership meant we could only be charged a maximum of 25%?

Seems to me if there is a second (third) referendum the choice should be EEA membership (not a million miles away from the chequers plan) or a hard brexit followed by negotiations from a blank piece of paper. We’re not starting from a blank piece of paper which is why it’s such a mess. If people...

So you would accept EEA membership then. Thanks for clearing that up.

Why couldn’t it? It’s within the remit of article 50 and Parliament has a sovereign duty to vote any deal through including a hard brexit. In fact remaining until the right deal is on the table seems a more likely scenario all things considered. Either that or back to another referendum on the...

That clears that up then. So you would be happy if we leave the EU and join the EEA then? That’s leave afterall.

You could just as easily assume that we won’t leave until a deal that Parliament and the public accept is available.

Which is fair enough. Some people clearly don’t won’t us to have the option to change our mind again and then spout insult to democracy if it’s suggested that we have the right to change our minds again. To suggest it’s an insult to democracy is a contradiction in terms and if they really...