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  1. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I’m well aware of your opinion on Blair - we share it. You say that you want a party that can be trusted en made, but seem ignorant of the fact that the establishment are so desperate in trying to retain control that will go to any measure at all, which includes misleading the general public...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Didn’t realise you were in receipt of the whole nations opinion? FWIW - I am torn on the matter. Part of me thinks that she should never return to the UK for choosing to leave to go there. Another part thinks that she was a kid - and kids make fucking stupid choices. If you let her back into...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Protecting their own interests is them being unaccountable in a job that pays in 75K + expenses (and that’s a hell of a lot more) whilst simultaneously being paid ad hoc for thinktanks and ‘consultancy work’ at a rate of £500 an hour. And when the MP salary goes they will have this and more to...
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    Ann Lucas

    Maybe someone could get a ticket to her swearing in ceremony and take Marlon King as their +1
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    Ann Lucas

    I thought she’d died as she hasn’t been in Corrie for such a long time....
  6. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    They are all about protecting their own interests. The fact they even get the media attention is a nonsense. And as a Labour supporter it’s embarrassing to see our former MP’s sharing a platform with Soubry who has just defended austerity saying it was ‘necessary’ in their press conference.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I agree - but who just told everyone they were for 21st Century politics as the old system was broken....
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    On a serious note - do you think that power would lie with Corbyn or a committe? BTW - I had no idea who Hatton was until yesterday either.
  9. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Well if nothing confirms the point further... these MP’s want the public to choose now they are fully informed... yet not one will hold a by-election. Hypocrisy at its finest.
  10. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    But still come out of it very comfortable for the rest of their days. MP’s like this as the ‘face’ of PV/2nd Ref is the reason it’s died on its arse.
  11. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Except they are not sticking their necks out... there is zero risk to them in reality. They will never get re-elected in their existing seats. They may target marginals, but it will be unlikely they will make impact, merely hoover up a combination of anti-Tory or anti-Lab votes, and even that...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I don’t need to respond other than politely asking you to examine each of their voting records and then tell me what other conclusion to make from it.
  13. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    They are careerists... that’s what they are unhappy about losing. They just want things to stay the same forever... in a world where they make a good life out of doing pretty much nothing.
  14. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Another 3 MP’s looking for some consultantcy work after they lose their jobs in the next GE.
  15. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    If there is no election it doesn’t matter what Corbyn does or says. The Tories made this mess, and they have to own it. If Corbyn came out tomorrow for a 2nd referendum it’s not going to take down parliament is it? He won’t suddenly become PM. All that would happen is that the focus will be on...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    And then if Remain won? Best of 3? That would literally been the daftest move of all and would have consigned the party into oblivion. GE route was actually smart because if they were in power their deal reflects them. At the moment he’s expected to have done more for a deal he’s had no part in...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No one has an answer.... that’s why it’s so easy to pin indecisiveness on him.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I can’t see the 7 (now 8) standing in their existing constituencies as they’d lose comfortably. So then they target marginals... but whose? Labour is the obvious but what about Lib Dem ones? Either way they are really only interested in facilitating the Tories and manintaning the status quo...
  19. Ian1779

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Please... the same Joan Ryan that was filmed at conference saying she could secure £1m to take down some Tory ministers and the Labour leadership to protect Israel’s interests....
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